Phipps horses

[Zamindar]

As we begin to think about the horses being split between Keeneland and the rest of the stable returning to Belmont, it seemed an appropriate time to start this thread for those interested in the family horses.

The horses have wintered well in Florida and there have been some encouraging results on the track....

[PanZareta]

You know I'm interested. I've missed your updates since the Final Turn closed.

[personalensign79]

I'm very interested too. I have a few of them in my VS that I've been keeping tabs on for awhile.

[Retrospectiv]

Count me in as interested Cladan, I've also missed the updates since FT.

[mimseppi]

I am interested as well!

[Marker in the sand]

I am interested. Especially in the 3 year old fillies Tia, Protesting, Streaker, and an unraced filly named Snooze. If Protesting is like her big brother maybe a stake at Keeneland will be in the cards?

[Thumbsucker]

Yaaaaah! Let the racing begin!

[brigadier gerard]

For those interested in former Phipps horses, Easing Along and Manipulator(full to Smuggler) had juvenile grade one winners this past weekend in Argentina.

http://sidfernando.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/villero-cat-and-sembra-fe-top-the-argentine-2-year-olds/

[ShuveesGirl]

Welcome to the forum, Cladan.

I look forward to updates in this thread. :smiley:

[Retrospectiv]

For those interested in former Phipps horses, Easing Along and Manipulator(full to Smuggler) had juvenile grade one winners this past weekend in Argentina.

http://sidfernando.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/villero-cat-and-sembra-fe-top-the-argentine-2-year-olds/


Shame Easing Along wasn't given much of a chance here, but I suppose his full brother in Maryland hasn't set the world on fire up here.

[Lakeway]

I read somewhere (?) that Easing Along looked horrible when he arrived at Claiborne. Sounded like he either didn't travel well, or didn't do well in quarantine. Does anyone know if this was actually the case?

Thanks...

[scrappyt]

I read somewhere (?) that Easing Along looked horrible when he arrived at Claiborne. Sounded like he either didn't travel well, or didn't do well in quarantine. Does anyone know if this was actually the case?

Thanks...


Was it Easing Along who had stifle (or some kind of hind end issue) that gave him some trouble when he was over there at Claiborne? I can't remember now if that was him or another stallion.

[TBird]

I'm interested too. Thanks for the updates Cladan. :smiley:

[starrydreamer]

I'm interested as well. I love the Phipps horses and follow them as much as I can.

[ezgoerbaby]

Interested!

[Lakeway]

Always interested, and enjoy your posts...

[Della]

Me too -- thanks.

[Zamindar]

Coming into the season and with an eye on the broodmare band, it was quite important for some of the fillies to improve on their performances. The three older fillies are all guaranteed a place at Claiborne, either through their pedigrees or race records.

Distinctively is the least accomplished but remains a personal favorite and is lightly raced. This filly will be well suited by a route of ground and ran nicely on a speed favoring track on her seasonal debut. Consequence had a really encouraging spring last year and was in really good shape heading into the Saratoga meet. Unfortunately, the wet weather dashed her hopes of further black type and she has something to prove this year. She remains an exciting, although headstrong filly and is certainly the best from her dam. Persistently made a pleasing seasonal debut but was then exposed by slow early fractions in her subsequent effort at Gulfstream Park. A faster pace in some of the NY stakes races will better suit her running style and the Ladies Handicap remains a possibility for her next race.

The 3yo fillies are a lightly raced group and there are some nice unraced types to look forward too. Protesting was exposed as a bit one paced on the Gulfstream track but ran nicely in both of her efforts. She is well suited by the polytrack and will hopefully run well at the upcoming Keeneland meet. Streaker will hopefully continue to develop into a really nice filly and Snooze is also worthy of a mention. So, fingers crossed.

The Janney colors have had a lot of success with the fillies in recent years. Quiet Harbor has continued her winning ways and Forest Trail will travel to Keeneland after a pleasing seasonal debut. The 3yo filly Hit It Rich has been working progressively and makes her debut on saturday.

The 4yo colt Spanish Art runs in a couple of hours.

[monty]

Thank you so much, Cladan. I've felt a little lost the last few months.

[Slewfan2]

Anything on Awesome? She's a Mineshaft filly out of a Storm Cat mare who ran very well in her debut. Thanks!

[flytothestars]

interested!!!! :cool:

[brigadier gerard]

Anything on Awesome? She's a Mineshaft filly out of a Storm Cat mare who ran very well in her debut. Thanks!



Do you mean So Explosive, a daughter of Awesome?

http://www.pedigreequery.com/so+explosive2

[Slewfan2]

Anything on Awesome? She's a Mineshaft filly out of a Storm Cat mare who ran very well in her debut. Thanks!



Do you mean So Explosive, a daughter of Awesome?

http://www.pedigreequery.com/so+explosive2


Yes, oops - thanks!!

[Zamindar]

Anything on Awesome? She's a Mineshaft filly out of a Storm Cat mare who ran very well in her debut. Thanks!


The dam has produced two minor winners and was sold last year at Keeneland. So Explosive was withdrawn from the January sale after showing signs of ability in her works and ran pretty well on her debut. She's ready to run and we shall learn a bit more about her in her next couple of races. Go Ballistic (2yo half sister) failed to reach her reserve last year and remains in ownership.

[Slewfan2]

Anything on Awesome? She's a Mineshaft filly out of a Storm Cat mare who ran very well in her debut. Thanks!


The dam has produced two minor winners and was sold last year at Keeneland. So Explosive was withdrawn from the January sale after showing signs of ability in her works and ran pretty well on her debut. She's ready to run and we shall learn a bit more about her in her next couple of races. Go Ballistic (2yo half sister) failed to reach her reserve last year and remains in ownership.


Wow, that's pretty interesting... I'm looking forward to seeing her run again. Thank you so much, Cladan!!!

[Aspidistra]

Thanks, Cladan. The updates you provide are wonderful. I'm hoping a nice 2 year old turns up this year.

[Zamindar]

It's an important day on saturday as a couple of the aforementioned fillies make their second appearances of the season. Distinctively was given the nod when she was nominated for the Ladies Handicap and makes her stakes debut on saturday. She will relish the two turns and 9f at Aqueduct, and it will be a huge disapointment if the filly doesn't get some valuable blacktype. Streaker has continued to work very well at Payson Park and the decision was made to give her another chance at Gulfstream Park, rather than wait for an allowance at Belmont. She made a pleasing debut and we shall have to wait and see whether she's as good as we hope. Political Agenda has trailed badly in both of his dirt races and Shug McGaughey has decided to try the colt on the turf in the previous race on the card. Another filly that was previously mentioned, Hit It Rich made a nice debut over the dirt mile and was closing nicely at the end of the race.

[terpsichorist]

It will interesting to watch all the above mentioned horses , thanks.

[Flanders]

I'm so happy to have you here Cladan! The Phipps horses have always been my favorite to follow. I have Shug as my only trainer to follow at Equibase. Do you happen to know if Inside Information has had any other foals that aren't wobblers since Smuggler?

[personalensign79]

Colors Flying and Fly the Flag just came across my email in workout notifications. Are they both still Phipps? I know some of the ones I was tracking were sold but I can't remember exactly who they were.

[Zamindar]

Distinctively won her blacktype, although the running of the race was incredibly frustrating. The pedestrian pace didn't help a bit and although she was closing well to the wire, it was an immensely disappointing outcome. Streaker won under a hand ride and continues to develop well. The filly was professional and showed plenty of tactical speed. Colors Flying and Fly the flag remain under ownership. Inside Information has a 2yo filly Evasion and had a colt foal by Street Cry this week. Both are fine.

[personalensign79]

Distinctively won her blacktype, although the running of the race was incredibly frustrating. The pedestrian pace didn't help a bit and although she was closing well to the wire, it was an immensely disappointing outcome. Streaker won under a hand ride and continues to develop well. The filly was professional and showed plenty of tactical speed. Colors Flying and Fly the flag remain under ownership. Inside Information has a 2yo filly Evasion and had a colt foal by Street Cry this week. Both are fine.


thank you for the update on Color's Flying and Fly the Flag! I saw Distinctively's race too. She did look to be closing very well at the wire.

[starrydreamer]

Good for Streaker!

I saw that my favorite, Snooze, had a workout yesterday.

Thanks for the updates, Cladan! I love following these royally bred babies.

[ShuveesGirl]

Streaker makes it 2 for 2

Trainer Shug McGaughey will also return to New York later this week with a top filly prospect of his own after Streaker kept her record perfect with a popular one-mile allowance victory in Saturday's ninth race. Streaker, a homebred daughter of Forest Wildcat and half-sister to the late multiple Grade 1 winner Pine Island, outlasted Acting Happy to win for the second time in as many starts.

"She learned a little something today," McGaughey said immediately after the race. "I'll take her back to Belmont and see what comes up, although I won't run her back too quick. I'll probably have to look for a stakes because the allowance won't go. Stretching her out shouldn't be a problem considering her pedigree, and I think she should be even better when she gets over those big, sweeping turns at Belmont."

[TizTheOne]

How about the Janney horses? Anything on Quiet Harbor?

[ShuveesGirl]

Protesting, who is out of On Parade (full to Storm Flag Flying and dam of Parading), runs in the Ashland (gr. I) at Keeneland:


Of those, Protesting might be most dangerous, partly because the late-running Phipps Stable filly won her lone start over Polytrack, a two-turn maiden race here last fall, by five lengths.

"She had two good races in Florida, but her style worked against her," said trainer Shug McGaughey, a three-time Ashland winner. "It was just too hard to catch up down there."

[brigadier gerard]

Good for Streaker!

I saw that my favorite, Snooze, had a workout yesterday.

Thanks for the updates, Cladan! I love following these royally bred babies.


Snooze is entered on Keeneland's Friday card.

[Marker in the sand]

Consequence is in today at Keeneland on the turf going a Mile. I wonder if a good effort here and in another race might set her up for the Just A Game on the Belmont under card. I would think a 1 turn Mile on the turf might be her best distance and surface.

[Slewfan2]

Protesting, who is out of On Parade (full to Storm Flag Flying and dam of Parading), runs in the Ashland (gr. I) at Keeneland:


Of those, Protesting might be most dangerous, partly because the late-running Phipps Stable filly won her lone start over Polytrack, a two-turn maiden race here last fall, by five lengths.

"She had two good races in Florida, but her style worked against her," said trainer Shug McGaughey, a three-time Ashland winner. "It was just too hard to catch up down there."


She's just not a good filly; I read that grass is next. That's a desperation move, I think.

[Zamindar]

Hit It Rich confirmed the earlier promise shown on her debut and, brought back in distance, she won quite nicely over the polytrack last friday. It would be wonderful if the Janney's could continue to develop this old Whitney family and this filly appears to have a bright future. She is the first of the Smart Strikes and resembles her dam. There are plenty of runners to look forward too during the next few weeks and Consequence made an encouraging seasonal debut this afternoon. She was coming off a lengthy break and nicely freshened, confirmed her liking for the fast turf. The Churchill Distaff Mile remains an option, although it was hoped that her class would have been enough to get the win today. Future plans will also be dependent on how Quiet Harbor performs on saturday. No doubt that Snooze's debut on friday will interest a number of posters and this filly will hopefully make a pleasing debut. She has progressed well in her works and is the first foal from her dam. Keeping it in the family (back to La Troienne), it will be fun to see how Bimini fares on the polytrack and with a little more distance.

[Thumbsucker]

Protesting, who is out of On Parade (full to Storm Flag Flying and dam of Parading), runs in the Ashland (gr. I) at Keeneland:


Of those, Protesting might be most dangerous, partly because the late-running Phipps Stable filly won her lone start over Polytrack, a two-turn maiden race here last fall, by five lengths.

"She had two good races in Florida, but her style worked against her," said trainer Shug McGaughey, a three-time Ashland winner. "It was just too hard to catch up down there."


She's just not a good filly; I read that grass is next. That's a desperation move, I think.


Actually she will probably do well on turf, considering how much better Leading the Parade and Parading were when they were switched. Once Protesting showed form over the poly, it made me believe she has more than a shot at doing well on turf. I'm hoping that they do the same with Colors Flying as A.P. Indy/Pulpit over Easy Goer seems to produce a more turf oriented runner, of course only time will tell.

[Slewfan2]

Protesting, who is out of On Parade (full to Storm Flag Flying and dam of Parading), runs in the Ashland (gr. I) at Keeneland:


Of those, Protesting might be most dangerous, partly because the late-running Phipps Stable filly won her lone start over Polytrack, a two-turn maiden race here last fall, by five lengths.

"She had two good races in Florida, but her style worked against her," said trainer Shug McGaughey, a three-time Ashland winner. "It was just too hard to catch up down there."


She's just not a good filly; I read that grass is next. That's a desperation move, I think.


Actually she will probably do well on turf, considering how much better Leading the Parade and Parading were when they were switched. Once Protesting showed form over the poly, it made me believe she has more than a shot at doing well on turf. I'm hoping that they do the same with Colors Flying as A.P. Indy/Pulpit over Easy Goer seems to produce a more turf oriented runner, of course only time will tell.


I don't recall Leading the Parade doing much of anything on turf. Pulpit is a better turf sire than Indy and Protesting's form over poly consists of beating a bad group of maidens. I don't think she's very talented, so I don't see turf helping her, but I can't argue against it because it can't hurt.

[brigadier gerard]

Phipps/Janney juveniles on the work tab:

http://drf.com/static/workouts/10/wNBS10.html

[Zamindar]

With the passing of Personal Ensign and Highest Regard in recent weeks, it has been a sad time but also a time to reflect and allow people to share their memories. Personal Ensign has been described with so many superlatives during her lifetime and must surely rank as one of the greatest. It is difficult to describe and put into words 'greatness', as the words never really do the horse justice or even tell the whole story. For me, the best way to describe Personal Ensign would be to say that she was 'one of a kind'. She was an incredible indivdual and about as tough as they come. To return from a career threatening injury and to produce the kind of career that she had, remains an incredible achievement and a testament to everyone involved with her at that time. Personal Ensign also fought back from foaling complications, which makes passing on her own terms seem more poignant. Much has been written about the legacy Personal Ensign leaves behind and hopefully her descendants will continue to have success for the family in the future.

[TizTheOne]

After watching her this week, I would have to say Persistently is the biggest bust Shug has trained for the Phipps in years. What a disappointing career.

[TizTheOne]

You know, I don't know if it is because of his name or not, and the race being in Lexington, but Conservative sure is taking a ton of money. He has a beautiful pedigree, but isn't exactly a world beater. I don't think he can even hang with the Ramsey horse.

[starrydreamer]

You know, I don't know if it is because of his name or not, and the race being in Lexington, but Conservative sure is taking a ton of money. He has a beautiful pedigree, but isn't exactly a world beater. I don't think he can even hang with the Ramsey horse.


Well, Conservative finished a solid third. The Ramsey horse finished behind him. He's not a world beater, but he's graded stakes placed (he second in the Lexington). The only other horses in the field who was graded stakes placed is Gresham. That's probably why he was taking a lot of money, along with his great pedigree.

[TizTheOne]

You know, I don't know if it is because of his name or not, and the race being in Lexington, but Conservative sure is taking a ton of money. He has a beautiful pedigree, but isn't exactly a world beater. I don't think he can even hang with the Ramsey horse.


Well, Conservative finished a solid third. The Ramsey horse finished behind him. He's not a world beater, but he's graded stakes placed (he second in the Lexington). The only other horses in the field who was graded stakes placed is Gresham. That's probably why he was taking a lot of money, along with his great pedigree.


He was the chalk and his effort was mediocre at best. He had no excuse. He made his move and came up empty.

[Aspidistra]

Wondering if So Explosive is ok after being eased in the 6th at Aqueduct on 4/18.

[Zamindar]

Weather permitting, Hit It Rich will be the first horse to contest a dirt race at Churchill Downs since Pine Island. The present losing skid for the barn started after Hit It Rich won her maiden, so hopefully the filly can get it done and come home safe. Cause of Freedom gave some reason for optimism yesterday, getting an awful trip and having to negotiate traffic for most of the stretch. The stable horses have certainly been disappointing since their return from Florida and the Aqueduct results have been especially uninspiring. Hopefully the barn will have better results after the horses have had more time to acclimate and their are some nice maidens to look forward too at the Belmont meet.

[Zamindar]

Without wishing to talk to myself, it was a nice win from Hit It Rich who confirmed that she's a filly with a bright future. Mr. Janney has a nice group of fillies in training, the older fillies have already been mentioned and there are a couple of promising one's to add to the mix. Home Rule made an encouraging debut at Keeneland and a 4yo filly Adjacent. Adjacent has been off the track since her debut at Saratoga last year and is the last of a family that has been sold on. She has been working steadily with a promising colt named Ritual, who has also been off the track since his 2yo debut. From a relatively small broodmare band, it's an exciting time for the Janney family and hopefully the fillies will remain healthy.

There will be a few runners at Churchill Downs during the next week and hopefully Consequence will build on her encouraging debut. It was decided to remain a little conservative and allow the filly to win her allowance and Colors Flying will run on the thursday. Protesting has been working nicely on the turf and is due to run on the surface next time out. It's worth mentioning that turf was always an option should the filly prove unable to compete at stakes level on the dirt and she remains a capable filly who will hopefully win a few more races during the next few more years.

[Roar]

Cladan, I can guarantee you that people are reading your posts even if they're not replying, so you're certainly not talking to yourself!

Something I've found interesting about Streaker and Hit It Rich is the amount of speed that they have shown in their victories - relatively atypical for McGaughey trainees (Inside Information of course being a notable exception). Though Forest Wildcat probably accounts for that speed in the case of Streaker, I've been surprised Hit It Rich shows as much early lick as she does. And I'm curious to see how she does when she eventually gets a chance to try turf.

Though some posters have questioned the potential of Protesting on the turf, you'd have to think that as a 3/4 sister to Parading she would have a chance of taking to the lawn.

And as lightly-raced as Colors Flying remains, hopefully there's room for him to continue improving. I can't say I'm disappointed that he scratched out of his Keeneland engagement last week in favor of a spot over the dirt at Churchill (although he's a full-brother in blood to Protesting, both being by AP Indy and out of full sisters) - especially given the fact that the winner of that Keeneland race was pretty impressive.

[Aspidistra]

I, too, will say that Cladan should have no concerns that people are not reading this! I was very pleased to see Hit It Rich kick in with an extra gear at the top of the stretch. Although I must admit I still have trouble getting used to Phipps/Janney colors on a gray. :wink: Nice looking filly, and I eagerly anticipate following her progress.

[wooley85]

Cladan, your updates are one of the first topics I look for. My "pals"at the local OTB know what a big, big fan I am, and "alert me" when a Phipps/Janney (Shug trained horse) is entered somewhere!

[PanZareta]

I was at Churchill yesterday, continuing the long tradition I have with a group of women friends. This was our 28th opening day, and we had a wonderful time despite the dreary weather.

I agree that it's unusual to see those colors on a gray, but Hit It Rich is a lovely and very elegant looking filly. Everyone in our group bet on her, and we were probably her loudest cheerleaders. I hope she continues to run well.

[Marker in the sand]

Speaking of Mr. Janney's horse will we be seeing Imaging any time soon. He showed a lot of promise at 2. I thought Home Rule ran ok in her first race and I love that Rokeby line.

[brigadier gerard]

I too am a follower of this thread.

I noticed Surreptitiously and Fabulous Prize have been working steadily these past weeks,any idea when they'll make their debut?(Belmont?)

[ShuveesGirl]

Hit It Rich surely has a bright future -- and she should get even better with age and added distance.

[blitey]

Cladan, I too scan the forum for your posts. I previously had responded on the Final Turn forum. Obviously, with a username like Blitey, I am an avid Phipps fan. I look forward to your updates. I see that Fabulous Prize has been working alot and Ritual is working as will. It was puzzling that Puzzling worked at Calder. I also saw that Step Lively had been working but has been missing for awhile and Indefinite and a few others have worked at Niall Brennan's. I am also interested if Dancinginmydreams, Oh What a Windfall and Heavenly Prize are close to having their foals. Thanks, Blitey

[Marker in the sand]

I will be rooting for Super Saver in the Derby because he is from the Phipps line. I believe he is the only one left with Interactif out. I always wonder how much seller's remorse there is after a horse you breed and sell produces a Derby runner. Let's hope Daydreaming can produce a Derby runner she has 2 full sisters that have, maybe her 2yo by Giant's Causeway? Wouldn't that be nice.

[Jas]

Marker, you should probably be rooting for Quiet Temper in the Oaks as well then, since her 3rd dam is Blitey and her 2nd dam is a Phipps-bred daughter of Easy Goer.

[Zamindar]

All of the Dynaformer colts have suffered various setbacks. Imaging was certainly a promising colt and his dam has been unlucky with her progeny so far. Rescue Squad was a personal favorite and it's especially frustrating when such things happen to the good ones. With regard to the Oaks and Derby runners, good bloodlines that are culled are generally going to ensure success for someone down the line. Off the top of my head, Curlin's 7th dam was the first mare owned by Ogden Phipps, although I'm not sure anyone would wish to claim credit..

Streaker did a nice piece of work this morning and will hopefully be suited by the big, sweeping Belmont turns on race day. The search has been on to find a replacement from the Storm Cat line and until this filly come along (and as consistent as Forest Trail has become), it would have to be said that the results have been disappointing. Given the broodmares that have visited Giant's Causeway, it would certainly be gratifying if Imagining turned out to be a classic type. The resulting progeny from the stallion have come in all shapes and sizes and have not been the soundest but the Daydreaming 2yo is a nice sort, so fingers crossed. Abaco is another nice Giant's Causeway 2yo and a return for Cat Cay to the Storm Cat line. The dam has since produced a couple of really nice fillies from Smart Strike and has arguably produced a better type from the Mr Prospector line, so we shall see.

[Marker in the sand]

Fantastic information Cladan you are a message board MVP. I look forward to your posts.

[middleground]

Any information about Deceive, the Tiznow-Illicit filly? I know she was unplaced in her debut a few weeks ago.

[brigadier gerard]

More Phipps/Janney juvenile works:

http://www.equibase.com/static/workout/NBS042810USA-EQB.html

[wooley85]

I will be rooting for Super Saver in the Derby because he is from the Phipps line. I believe he is the only one left with Interactif out. I always wonder how much seller's remorse there is after a horse you breed and sell produces a Derby runner. Let's hope Daydreaming can produce a Derby runner she has 2 full sisters that have, maybe her 2yo by Giant's Causeway? Wouldn't that be nice.


Supercharger bred by Phipps. Must have culled her...don't know why ...with Maria's Mon as sire of SuperSaver, he had speed and stamina!

[Aspidistra]

Spanish Art (2006, El Prado-Gilty Look-Seeking the Gold) broke his maiden going 1 1/16 on turf at Belmont today.

Hymn Book (2006, Arch-Vespers-Known Fact) was 3rd in AOC at Churchill today. 1 1/16 on mud.

[monty]

Am I dotty or didn't they sell Supercharger carrying Super Saver?

[Buckpasser]

hi,

been quite awhile - sort have been in limbo since finalturn.com went south. When Super Saver won the Derby, tried this forum again (as I did after finalturn's demise) and was overjoyed to see Cladan back on the web. I will be checking this forum everyday. Monty - i was thinking the same thing.

[wooley85]

Am I dotty or didn't they sell Supercharger carrying Super Saver?


I don't know about that, but SuperSaver has a full sibling named Hedge Fund that raced for Phipps' with McG as trainer for a few years. He was sold about 2-3 yrs ago. Hedge Fund was a solid horse, but slow...could run distance but not great turn of foot.

Hedge Fund turned up at NYRA in 2008/2009. Last year Hedge Fund now (trained by Randy Persaud)
raced 25 times from 12/2009 until 04/10 in cheap claiming races. Raced every week. Durable but slow...always hits the board.

Hedge Fund's full sibling is a Kentucky Derby winner, and poor Hedge Fund labors in 10k claiming races at NYRA. Go figure. :cry:

[brigadier gerard]

Casner,in two separate interviews, mistakenly said Superchager was a full sister to Bluegrass Cat.She's of course a full sister to his dam.

[wooley85]

Casner,in two separate interviews, mistakenly said Superchager was a full sister to Bluegrass Cat.She's of course a full sister to his dam.


The Phipps sold a future Kentucky Derby winner. You were right...sold Supercharger in foal to Maria's Mon for $120,000 at Nov06 auction to WinStar.

I presume they didn't like the way SS's full brother, Hedge Fund turned out. Too bad because Super Saver has a similar running style.

[Marker in the sand]

I think they had 3 full sisters She's A Winner, Supercharger and Daydreaming and sold 2 and kept the one that was the best on the track. The also sold New Dice who was by Capote for over a million. Streaker is entered on Thursday at Belmont let's hope Shug can get on a roll at Belmont.

[Zamindar]

Three winners during the past week has been encouraging and it's been nice to see a couple of the maidens get their win.

There were four daughters of Get Lucky before she was sold at the sales and Daydreaming remains the only one in the broodmare band.

Streaker has been entered against older fillies, so we shall see if she can continue through her progressions. All being well, the race provides a good spacing to the Acorn but she will have to win on thursday.

[Zamindar]

Sorry, I forgot to mention that Deceive is at Belmont and doing well. She ran an encouraging debut and will get better as the filly begins to stretch out. It is anticipated that both this filly and Snooze will run at the meet.

[moonwalker]

Is Supercharger still living?

Mary MMM

[Lakeway]

Is Supercharger still living?

Mary MMM


According to Equineline, she had a Medaglia d'Oro colt on 4/11/2010

[moonwalker]

Thanks re: Supercharger. I was looking up her foals on the Breeders' Cup site earlier, and it said, "No such dam in database." Maybe a lot of other people were doing the same thing and the database was out of order!

Mary MMM

[Aspidistra]

So Explosive (2007, Mineshaft-Awesome-Storm Cat) won her maiden today at Philadelphia at 1 mile 70 yards.

[Slewfan2]

So Explosive (2007, Mineshaft-Awesome-Storm Cat) won her maiden today at Philadelphia at 1 mile 70 yards.


I saw that today. I guess they don't think much of her at all to send her to Philly.........

[brigadier gerard]

So Explosive (2007, Mineshaft-Awesome-Storm Cat) won her maiden today at Philadelphia at 1 mile 70 yards.


I saw that today. I guess they don't think much of her at all to send her to Philly.........


With the improved purse structure in Philly and Jersey, more of the major New York outfits will be taking advantage....

[brigadier gerard]

Cladan, I too scan the forum for your posts. I previously had responded on the Final Turn forum. Obviously, with a username like Blitey, I am an avid Phipps fan. I look forward to your updates. I see that Fabulous Prize has been working alot and Ritual is working as will. It was puzzling that Puzzling worked at Calder. I also saw that Step Lively had been working but has been missing for awhile and Indefinite and a few others have worked at Niall Brennan's. I am also interested if Dancinginmydreams, Oh What a Windfall and Heavenly Prize are close to having their foals. Thanks, Blitey


Via Mariasmon:

c. Hard Spun x Oh What a Windfall (5/1)

[ShuveesGirl]

An article on the undefeated Streaker, herself a half to Pine Island.

Streaker has the right stuff for this spot
http://drf.com/news/article/112690.html

[Slewfan2]

So Explosive (2007, Mineshaft-Awesome-Storm Cat) won her maiden today at Philadelphia at 1 mile 70 yards.


I saw that today. I guess they don't think much of her at all to send her to Philly.........


With the improved purse structure in Philly and Jersey, more of the major New York outfits will be taking advantage....


Good point!

[monty]

So far Streaker has done nothing wrong. Now three for three beating older today. And she has early speed. I could fall really hard for this girl.

[Roar]

So far Streaker has done nothing wrong. Now three for three beating older today. And she has early speed. I could fall really hard for this girl.


Couldn't agree more. As has been pointed out in the pre- and post-race write-ups, she beat a nice filly pretty handily in her debut, and hasn't looked even close to extended in either of her allowance victories. You'd have to think she'll be very competitive in a race like the Acorn in a couple of weeks.

[Chumma]

I would think Streaker more likely than not will pass the Acorn. Shug was quoted as follows "I don't think there will be any three other thans on the dirt, so I'll have to take a look. The Acorn would be a possibility." A f+m nw 3X at a flat mile on the dirt is in the new condition book at Belmont for June 16th. Even if she is the goods it will give her some additional seasoning perhaps with the CCA Oaks and Alabama as the ultimate goals. It gives her not only another race, but six more weeks of training before making the big jump. The Acorn may be too soon off three starts and if Blind Luck comes in for the Mother Goose as planned, no point running in that spot. The nw 3X into the CCA Oaks now at Saratoga may be the better move. The only downside is having to go two turns for the first time while moving from allowance to Gr I company. If she goes in the Acorn, I'll be rooting for her with fingers crossed. She has won in hand but she's going to have to run about two seconds faster than she has in order to have a shot.

[Roar]

While keeping Streaker in the allowance ranks as long as possible would certainly fit with the barn's more conservative style, and while her bottom line says she ought to be able to handle the 9F-10F of the CCA Oaks and Alabama, with all her speed and with Forest Wildcat as her sire, it would seem that the Acorn at 1M would be a more logical stakes debut for her, I think. Especially since Blind Luck definitely won't be there.

In either event, it's really nice to have a Phipps filly at least in the discussion for these types of races.

By the way - anyone catch where the Phipps-bred Tax Ruling (2003 gelding by Dynaformer out of Fantastic Find) won the grade one Iroquois Steeplechase yesterday?

[ShuveesGirl]

By the way - anyone catch where the Phipps-bred Tax Ruling (2003 gelding by Dynaformer out of Fantastic Find) won the grade one Iroquois Steeplechase yesterday?


No, I didn't, but that's downright groovy!

[Marker in the sand]

Protesting tries the turf on Thursday with Castellano aboard and Persistently tries the grass on Friday with Alan Garcia riding.

[Roar]

Protesting just won her turf debut at Belmont. Ran at the back early, rallied wide on the turn and out-gamed a Lael filly for the win. She looked like a different filly on the lawn. And the blinkers were off today - maybe that had something to do with her improved performance as well.

[starrydreamer]

Protesting just won her turf debut at Belmont. Ran at the back early, rallied wide on the turn and out-gamed a Lael filly for the win. She looked like a different filly on the lawn. And the blinkers were off today - maybe that had something to do with her improved performance as well.


Nice! The Lael filly is Senada - Owsley's daughter. Senada has been a little slow to develop herself.

Just for the record, there was a post on page 3 that said that Protesting "just wasn't a good filly" and the move to turf was "desperate." Granted, she didn't beat the best field ever, but it's promising.

[monty]

Well, last I looked, Protesting is just three, has probably earned over $120000, is G2 placed and by AP Indy. I wouldn't send her to the knackers yet. How long did it take for Parading to get started?

[Roar]

Well, last I looked, Protesting is just three, has probably earned over $120000, is G2 placed and by AP Indy. I wouldn't send her to the knackers yet. How long did it take for Parading to get started?


He broke his maiden as a 4yo and won the Ben Ali and Dixie at 6.

[mariasmon]

Just for the record, there was a post on page 3 that said that Protesting "just wasn't a good filly" and the move to turf was "desperate." Granted, she didn't beat the best field ever, but it's promising.

Some people are just a little too quick to write horses off. I think I also recall some negative sentiments last year about how Music Note should just be retired, when she got off to a slow start. Before she won 2 more G1s.

[wooley85]

Protesting just won her turf debut at Belmont. Ran at the back early, rallied wide on the turn and out-gamed a Lael filly for the win. She looked like a different filly on the lawn. And the blinkers were off today - maybe that had something to do with her improved performance as well.


Nice! The Lael filly is Senada - Owsley's daughter. Senada has been a little slow to develop herself.

Just for the record, there was a post on page 3 that said that Protesting "just wasn't a good filly" and the move to turf was "desperate." Granted, she didn't beat the best field ever, but it's promising.


Tough race for me to cheer for a favorite. I'm a dire hard "Phipps fan" but Owlsey was a favorite turf racer of mine. Raced in NY alot and was winning stakes races at 4 and 5 yrs old. So, I sure wouldn't discount Senada.

[starrydreamer]

Tough race for me to cheer for a favorite. I'm a dire hard "Phipps fan" but Owlsey was a favorite turf racer of mine. Raced in NY alot and was winning stakes races at 4 and 5 yrs old. So, I sure wouldn't discount Senada.


Owsley was a favorite of mine as well. Senada was disappointing the first one or two starts, but then I remembered that Owsley was a later bloomer, so I think she'll improve.

[ShuveesGirl]

Tough race for me to cheer for a favorite. I'm a dire hard "Phipps fan" but Owlsey was a favorite turf racer of mine. Raced in NY alot and was winning stakes races at 4 and 5 yrs old. So, I sure wouldn't discount Senada.


Owsley was a favorite of mine as well. Senada was disappointing the first one or two starts, but then I remembered that Owsley was a later bloomer, so I think she'll improve.


Not to derail the Phipps thread, but Owsley was a beautiful mare. Almost black.

[Aspidistra]

Persistently ran very poorly today, last the whole way in AOC at Belmont, couldn't keep up. Wondering if everything is OK?

[wooley85]

Persistently ran very poorly today, last the whole way in AOC at Belmont, couldn't keep up. Wondering if everything is OK?


Ditto.

Uncharacteristic I thought. Persistently usually tries hard and hangs in till the end.

[brigadier gerard]

A couple former Phipps charges, Philanthropist and Survivalist,have each a runner in today's first at Woodbine.

Bill's Thrill- Philanthropist x Lewinsky (f)
I Don't Quit-Survivalist x Miss North Beach (f)

http://www.pedigreequery.com/bills+thrill

[Chumma]

Acting Happy won the Black Eyed Susans yesterday off of a second to Streaker at Gulfstream. It sure looks like Streaker has been winning some solid races in all three starts. May convince Shug to run in the Acorn especially if it comes up a little light.

[Aspidistra]

Finally got a workout notification for 5 year old Bazooka:

Horse name Bazooka
Notes War Chant-Colonial Review
Activity type Workout
Activity date 05-18-2010
Track Saratoga
Surface Dirt training (Gate)
Distance 4 Furlongs
Workout type Breezing
Workout time 0:50.00
Track condition Fast

[Marker in the sand]

Home Rule ran very well on Sunday in her turf Debut losing by a head.

[ShuveesGirl]

Home Rule ran very well on Sunday in her turf Debut losing by a head.


She's owned by Janney; not Phipps.

[Marker in the sand]

Home Rule ran very well on Sunday in her turf Debut losing by a head.


She's owned by Janney; not Phipps.

My Fault. I always think of the Phipps horses and Janney horses together. I will not make that mistake again.

I thought Surreptitiously ran deceptively well on Sunday and am anticipating an even better performance going 2 turns.

[Zamindar]

Home Rule ran very well on Sunday in her turf Debut losing by a head.


She's owned by Janney; not Phipps.

My Fault. I always think of the Phipps horses and Janney horses together. I will not make that mistake again.

I thought Surreptitiously ran deceptively well on Sunday and am anticipating an even better performance going 2 turns.



It's all in the family, so please don't worry. Home Rule certainly improved off her eye catching debut and the 3yo's are beginning to shape up quite well for some of the better races during the summer. Hit It Rich is being pointed to make her turf debut in either a minor stakes at Arlington Park or the Sands Point at Belmont. Protesting looked pretty good on her turf debut and despite losing her balance toward the wire the filly won convincingly. What was pleasing was the manner in which the filly let herself down on the surface and produced quite a nice turn of foot down the stretch. I believe that Shug has indicated publicly that there are no firm plans as yet but it's nice for the stable to have such a versatile filly and she will be nominated for some Graded turf races, as well as the dirt. Streaker has come out of her Belmont race in good order and remains on course for the Acorn Stakes at this time. The next week or so will tell us more but it's exciting to have some good fillies to look forward too.

[Zamindar]

It would be wonderful for Deceive and Snooze to run well on sunday and add a little more depth to the filly roster. It seems strange to print that Snooze is closely related to a Derby winner and hopefully she can confirm the promise she has shown since her debut. The filly showed plenty of early speed on the polytrack and will hopefully be suited to the Monmouth surface and the easier mile. Given the recent purse structure, we can expect to see some of the nicer maidens run at the NJ track and it will be fun to see them ship between Monmouth and back to Belmont during the summer. Javier Castellano has certainly become the preferred jockey for the stable(s) this year and will ride Deceive on a track and surface that will be more to her liking. She's a grand filly, was closing quite well on her polytack debut at it's exciting to see one of the Tiznow's make the races. It's always an anxious time to see if the horses have improved after a low key debut, so we shall have to see.

A few people have asked for a list of 2yo's this year and I will endeavour to post this, time permitting.

[ShuveesGirl]

One two-year-old I've been eagerly awaiting is Inside Information's juvenile filly by Empire Maker. And I still hold out hope that the closely related Gone Astray will return to the form he showed in his sophomore season.

[Flanders]

Cladan, you have no idea how happy you make me posting updates on the Phipps horses. Since I can remember watching racing, I always liked their horses. Black is my favorite color, maybe thats what drew me to them but I remember rooting for Easy Goer, Personal Ensign and Rhythm, and I was 10ish at the time. My appreciation for the stable has only grown since then.

[Aspidistra]

Bullet from Bet The Limit.

This notice is to inform you that one or more of your horses has worked out.

Bet the Limit (5-Year-Old Horse)

Your comments for this horse were: Storm Cat x Educated Risk c. 2005 Phipps

Date: May 23, 2010
Track: ARLINGTON PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.00:00 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: All Weather Track
Rank: 1/32 - See the day's workouts

[Thumbsucker]

My Fault. I always think of the Phipps horses and Janney horses together. I will not make that mistake again.

I thought Surreptitiously ran deceptively well on Sunday and am anticipating an even better performance going 2 turns.



It's all in the family, so please don't worry. Home Rule certainly improved off her eye catching debut and the 3yo's are beginning to shape up quite well for some of the better races during the summer. Hit It Rich is being pointed to make her turf debut in either a minor stakes at Arlington Park or the Sands Point at Belmont. Protesting looked pretty good on her turf debut and despite losing her balance toward the wire the filly won convincingly. What was pleasing was the manner in which the filly let herself down on the surface and produced quite a nice turn of foot down the stretch. I believe that Shug has indicated publicly that there are no firm plans as yet but it's nice for the stable to have such a versatile filly and she will be nominated for some Graded turf races, as well as the dirt. Streaker has come out of her Belmont race in good order and remains on course for the Acorn Stakes at this time. The next week or so will tell us more but it's exciting to have some good fillies to look forward too.

Nice race by Protesting. Have they had any thoughts to putting Colors Flying on the turf? It could be a good move considering the way the rest of the family has done on it.

[moonwalker]

I'm glad it's "all in the family." I think of the Phipps and the Janney horses together as "Phipps" horses.
I'm interested to see how Streaker might do in the Acorn.

Mary MMM

[SaratogaBob]

Cladan!
How nice to read your posts again! What happened to the Final Turn website? I found this site totally by accident. I must ask you. Prankster was working toward something when her workouts stopped 3/27/10. Any idea what's up with her?
Hi to everyone who was on our Phipps thread on Final Turn! How are you, Roar?! I still can't believe Personal Ensign is gone. You knew the day would come, but you're still never quite prepared for it.

[Tappiano]

Gosh I feel really old because I remember Comptroller....but not as old as some who remember Buckpasser.

[weatherbird]

I'm glad there are still "Janney" horses on the track just to see the Ruffian silks once in a while.

[Zamindar]

So Explosive nearly made it two in a row and showed that she has improved off her maiden win. It would be wonderful if she could win at this level and she is likely to return again to Philly in order to achieve this. Hit It Rich will make her long awaited turf debut in the Sands Point and will hopefully get her chance to demonstrate her talent on the surface. The Janney filly will have to improve significantly but the added distance will suit Hit It Rich and some black type for the filly is the hope, so fingers crossed. Deceive and Snooze didn't show much improvement off their debuts but have both come out of their races in good fashion. Their next couple of races will show us more and Streaker remains on course for next weekend.

[Zamindar]

These are the Janney foals from 2008. Some are bred in partnership and not all of them are in training.

c Admiral Perry First Samurai x Western Humor
This colt's 3yo half sister makes her debut on tuesday and is from an unraced mare who is still early in her stud career.
c Air Support Smart Strike x Gaze
Is a gorgeous colt who has been working steadily and will hopefully be ready for Saratoga. His siblings have not been without their problems, although Smart Strike has produced some striking foals for the Phipps family.
c Correct Response Vindication x Search Party
This colt is the only foal from the late Vindication and is a half to 3 useful winners, most notably Criminologist.
c Concord Bridge Arch x Lady Liberty
Withdrawn from the yearling sale and a half to Cause of Freedom. The dam is the only member of the Erin family that is owned in partnership with the Phipps.
c Data Link War Front x Database
The dam has yet to have a runner and this colt is the first foal from the Claiborne stallion to be bred by the family.
c Deed It Is First Samurai x Deed I Do
Bred in partnership and a half to 3 minor winners. The dam was a useful 2yo and was obtained after the sale of Coronado's Quest.
c L'Aiglon Montjeu x Look to the King
The stakes placed dam had a brief career in France before visiting the Coolmore stallion on her return home. The Montjeu's can be a little temperamental and need plenty of time. The dam continues to be sent to the choice stallions and produced an Indian Charlie filly this year.
c Seal Cove Strong hope x Meghan's Joy
A half to 3 winners including Quiet Harbor, Hunting and the useful maiden Home Rule. The dam has got off to a great start as a broodmare and so it will be interesting to see how she fares with Strong hope. This colt has been working for a while.
c Steel Bridge Arch x Gilty Look
The dam has produced 4 minor winners and was sold last year. Spanish Art has shown some ability this year and may yet prove to be the best of them.

I hope this is helpful.

[ShuveesGirl]

c Correct Response Vindication x Search Party
This colt is the only foal from the late Vindication and is a half to 3 useful winners, most notably Criminologist.
c Concord Bridge Arch x Lady Liberty
Withdrawn from the yearling sale and a half to Cause of Freedom. The dam is the only member of the Erin family that is owned in partnership with the Phipps.


Thanks for the info -- excited about these two.

[Roar]

Thank you Cladan!

[Zamindar]

These are the Phipps foals from 2008.

The colts are a bit ahead of the fillies at the moment, although there is little to be read into this. There are some nice individuals and no doubt, a future Derby winner and a filly for the Triple Tiara :grin:

f Abaco Giant's Causeway x Cat Cay
The dam's first 2 foals were from the Storm Cat line and both finished last in their only runs. Cat Cay has since produced the useful Bimini and has since returned to the Mr Prospector after after this gal.
f All Time High Awesome Again x Oh What a Windfall
A half to a couple of stakes placed performers that will need plenty of time. Awesome Again has yet to produce anything top class for the family but it's still early days.
c Break Up the Game Bernardini x Pennant Champion
Last foal from the dam before she was sold. Has been working steadily and is a half to 5 minor winners.
f Enhancing Forestry x Pennant Champion
Heavenly Prize has had a lot of success with the Storm Cat line, although despite his coverted pedigree, Forestry has been a big disappointment. This filly has shown some ability in her works and is the most forward of the fillies.
f Evasion Empire Maker x Inside Information
Despite her well documented problems at stud and having had less success than her aforementioned counterpoint, Inside Information is beginning to develop a significant influence within the broodmare band. A healthy foal from the dam is always something special.
c Financier Pulpit x Grand Gala
Another Pulpit for Shug to have fun with. Despite being given some good opportunities, the dam was sold publicly to a Claiborne partnership after the untimely passing of Finder's Fee. The Fantastic Find branch of the the Lady Pitt family now has a Bernardini yearling filly left to carry on the line.
f Flatter Me El Prado x Salute
2nd foal and a granddaughter of Personal Ensign.
c Gold Trader Johannesburg x Educated Risk
A half to multiple winners, most notably Strategy and Consequence who is due to run this week. This colt has been working pretty well and will hopefully be ready for the Spa.
c Golddigging Awesome Again x Finder's Fee
It is sad that Finder's fee has produced little of note, although her foals have been pretty good lookers.
c Hot Rodder More Than Ready x Provincial
Shares the name of a brother to Posse who won a Gr.3 in Germany many years ago. Half to Political Agenda who has subsequently been gelded and runs tomorrow.
f How Pleasant Distorted Humor x Pleasant Home
Our Country Place was an incredible foundation mare and the family has produced some wonderful fillies. The dam was big and backward early on and this filly is going to need plenty of time.
c Imagining Giant's Causeway x Daydreaming
Good looking colt and the 2nd foal of a Gr.2 winner.
c Indefinite Elusive Quality x Furlough
Half to 5 winners including Happy Hunting. None of Furlough's progeny have run at 2yrs and I am told that this colt's sister runs in a minor stakes this afternoon at Mountaineer.
f Intelligent First Samurai x Hidden Reserve
The stakes placed dam has not been a prolific producer but both of her winners have been Gr.3 caliber.
c Point of Entry Dynaformer x Matlacha Pass
Closely related to Pine Island and the last of the Dynaformers. This guy is going to need plenty of time, which was also the case for his siblings.
f Puzzling Ghostzapper x Dancinginmydreams
This filly was quite precocious as a foal. Her siblings have been beset with problems and the sire has been disappointing thus far, so we shall have to see.
f Quick Call Maria's Mon x Winner
This filly was retained after the sale of her dam, primarily because of her pedigree and the Grey Sovereign cross.
f Secret Asset Awesome Again x Smuggler
Hopefully the sire will produce something good for the family and this filly certainly has the right stuff about her. Has been working slowly at the Kentucky training center.

[Roar]

Thanks again Cladan!

For those that didn't catch it, Pardon, the 4yo filly by Elusive Quality out of Furlough, bred by the Phippses, won the Decoration Day Handicap at Mountaineer yesterday!

[tcw]

Do they have an '08 or '09 colt out of a Seattle Slew mare? Thought I ran across such a pedigree but couldn't remember the colt's name or who the sire is.

[Marker in the sand]

Great info Cladan, I love the comments. I thought I had heard there was a Country Hideaway 2 year old is that not true?

Conservative goes today on the grass at Belmont. I would like to see a good race from and get him back to stakes company and maybe win one (or more). I thought Heavenly Prize, Dancinginmydreams and Oh What A Windfall would produce better dirt runners but they all seem to improve on the grass. Funny I remember Shug in an interview saying he always wanted to try Heavenly Prize on the turf in the Bev D but he couldn't turn down running in the Saratoga Grade 1's where she a heavy favorite.

[brigadier gerard]

Great info Cladan, I love the comments. I thought I had heard there was a Country Hideaway 2 year old is that not true?



Safe House, by Bernardini.

Hope he's still with us:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/safe+house3

[PONYRCR]

What happened to Streaker today? Hope she came out of the Acorn okay.

[Zamindar]

Not much to cheer about during the past week with all of the horses failing to hit the board. There were concerns about the size of the Acorn field, a situation that is difficult to recall during past years for a NY dirt Gr.1 and Streaker was beaten into the final turn. The filly also had a bit of trouble with the track conditions and Javier didn't give the filly a hard time when her chance was gone. That said, Streaker wasn't good enough on the day and hopefully she can bounce back. She remains a good filly and will undoubtedly benefit from the hurly burly of the experience. Hit It Rich also struggled on her Graded debut and her chance was gone when she was snatched up on the rail and had to come round the field. There are no plans as yet, although I believe that the preference would be for the filly to run next in an allowance in order to give her some more turf experience. Both performances will have an impact on where Protesting is spotted next.

[ShuveesGirl]

Consequence favored off Guineas
http://drf.com/news/article/113746.html

[Zamindar]

Consequence favored off Guineas
http://drf.com/news/article/113746.html


Consequence certainly loves to hear her feet rattle and the weather doesn't look good at the moment... The filly won on her debut over 5f and was a closing 3rd in a Gr.2 over 7f, so the drop back in distance should suit her. If the filly is scratched, we can hope for a good performance from Captiva Pass who ran his best race on an off track last time. Gone Astray has run very well at Monmouth Park and Shug has found the colt a nice spot on saturday. The older horses have been a little disappointing thus far and the barn has generally been hot and cold this season. Hopefully the results will begin to turn around as the Saratoga meet approaches.

[PanZareta]

Cladan,

I noticed Provence in the entries at Arlington. I believe she was to race today. I seldom see Phipps horses running at Arlington, other than in stakes races. I love Provence's breeding - and her name - and I' still holding out hope that she'll turn into a nice racehorse.

[Zamindar]

Provence was moved to Shannon Ritter after the Keeneland meet and has continued to work on the polytrack. I am told the filly ran down the field today but remains under ownership.

Very much looking forward to Bimini running over 6f again at Monmouth Park on sunday. The colt obviously didn't see through the Belmont mile and he returns to his winning distance. Perhaps more intriguing will be Forest Trail who was entered in a minor stakes on the turf at 5.5f. The mare hasn't run over the distance since her 2yo debut and always consistent, it would be wonderful if she could get some more blacktype.

[Lakeway]

This probably should go in the breeding section, but as Cladan has been kind enough to keep us informed on how the Phipps horses are doing, I went back and reviewed a very old list of Phipps mares that I had. I was hoping that Cladan, and any others who follow the Phipps horses, could help me with my list.

These are the mares that I'm fairly certain are currently part of the Phipps broodmare band. If not, or if I'm missing some, I'd greatly appreciate any help.

Bocha Grande (first foal this year)
Carriage Trail (first foal this year)
Cat Cay
Country Hideaway
Dancinginmydreams
Daydreaming
Furlough
Heavenly Prize
Hidden Reserve
Illicit
Inside Information
Just Reward
Manoa (with Janney)
Matlacha Pass
My Flag
Oh What a Windfall
On Parade
Pennant Champion
Pleasant Home
Provincial
Salute
Smuggler
Storm Flag Flying
Strategy
Voyage

I still have to work on the Janney broodmare band.

Thanks !!!!!

[mariasmon]

Pennant Champion is at Pauls Mill nowadays. Ben Walden owns or co-owns her.

[Marker in the sand]

This probably should go in the breeding section, but as Cladan has been kind enough to keep us informed on how the Phipps horses are doing, I went back and reviewed a very old list of Phipps mares that I had. I was hoping that Cladan, and any others who follow the Phipps horses, could help me with my list.

These are the mares that I'm fairly certain are currently part of the Phipps broodmare band. If not, or if I'm missing some, I'd greatly appreciate any help.

Bocha Grande (first foal this year)
Carriage Trail (first foal this year)
Cat Cay
Country Hideaway
Dancinginmydreams
Daydreaming
Furlough
Heavenly Prize
Hidden Reserve
Illicit
Inside Information
Just Reward
Manoa (with Janney)
Matlacha Pass
My Flag
Oh What a Windfall
On Parade
Pennant Champion
Pleasant Home
Provincial
Salute
Smuggler
Storm Flag Flying
Strategy
Voyage

I still have to work on the Janney broodmare band.

Thanks !!!!!

Here are some that I think are additions to the list:
Collusion
Receipt
Resort
Winner

Here is a start to the Janney list
Database
Deed I Do
Gaze
Look To The King
Meghan's Joy
Western Humor

I think these are a Phipps Janney partnership
Proxy Statement
Manoa
Criminologist
Search Party
Manx Cat
Lady Liberty

[Lakeway]

Thanks Marker in the Sand. Being an Alydar fan, I have no idea how I missed Resort...

Looks like both Collusion and Resort are part of the band, but Receipt and Winner appear to have been sold.

Yes, the Janney list looks good, as does the Phipps/Janney partnership with the exception of Manx Cat, who also appears to have been sold.

[Marker in the sand]

Thanks Lakeway. I forgot Vespers for the Janney list. There are a couple of fairly recent runners that I did not add and am not sure if they are in the broodmare band or not. They are Castanet last ran 10/08, Tourism last ran 10/08, Breathtaking Last ran 10/08, and Cheering last entered in 8/08 but never ran.

[Lakeway]

Thanks Lakeway. I forgot Vespers for the Janney list. There are a couple of fairly recent runners that I did not add and am not sure if they are in the broodmare band or not. They are Castanet last ran 10/08, Tourism last ran 10/08, Breathtaking Last ran 10/08, and Cheering last entered in 8/08 but never ran.


Yes, I missed Vespers also - thanks...

I had questions about Castanet, Tourism and Cheering also. Checked Equineline and no 2010 foals listed for any of them. Hoping that maybe Cladan can help. Fairly certain that Breathtaking was sold.

[Melhor_Ainda]

Didn't Cheering get loose or something before her debut at Saratoga? And then she was retired before she ever ran. I'm pretty sure she lost her first foal too, if it's the same mare I'm thinking of.

[Lakeway]

Have done more research and am wondering if anyone knows the status (sold, broodmare, racing, etc.) of the following fillies/mares? None, as of today on Equineline, have any reported foals.

Bauble (05f) Tale of the Cat / Just Reward Unraced

Cashier (06f) Seeking the Gold / Resort Unraced

Prankster (07f) Ghostzapper / Salute Unraced

Rejoicing (04f) Forestry / Pennant Champion Last raced 4/2008

S? Avall (07f) Awesome Again / Pleasant Home Unraced

Tourism (05f) Seeking the Gold / Resort Last raced 10/2008

Viva La Flag (04f) Rahy / On Parade Last raced 10/2009

Thanks...

[SaratogaBob]

Have done more research and am wondering if anyone knows the status (sold, broodmare, racing, etc.) of the following fillies/mares? None, as of today on Equineline, have any reported foals.

Bauble (05f) Tale of the Cat / Just Reward Unraced

Cashier (06f) Seeking the Gold / Resort Unraced

Prankster (07f) Ghostzapper / Salute Unraced

Rejoicing (04f) Forestry / Pennant Champion Last raced 4/2008

S? Avall (07f) Awesome Again / Pleasant Home Unraced

Tourism (05f) Seeking the Gold / Resort Last raced 10/2008

Viva La Flag (04f) Rahy / On Parade Last raced 10/2009

Thanks...
Lakeway, Shug was working Prankster weekly until 3/27 and suddenly no more workouts. As she was very well thought of I would love to know what happened with her as well.

[Marker in the sand]

Have done more research and am wondering if anyone knows the status (sold, broodmare, racing, etc.) of the following fillies/mares? None, as of today on Equineline, have any reported foals.

Bauble (05f) Tale of the Cat / Just Reward Unraced

Cashier (06f) Seeking the Gold / Resort Unraced

Prankster (07f) Ghostzapper / Salute Unraced

Rejoicing (04f) Forestry / Pennant Champion Last raced 4/2008

S? Avall (07f) Awesome Again / Pleasant Home Unraced

Tourism (05f) Seeking the Gold / Resort Last raced 10/2008

Viva La Flag (04f) Rahy / On Parade Last raced 10/2009

Thanks...

I know Viva La Flag, as well as Siren Seranade, ran for Green Hills Farm in their last few starts.

[Lakeway]

I know Viva La Flag, as well as Siren Seranade, ran for Green Hills Farm in their last few starts.


I remember seeing Green Hills Farm listed as the breeder of one of the other fillies that was mentioned earlier, but don't remember which one. Don't remember hearing of it before. Do you know if it's located in Kentucky?

Thanks...

[Marker in the sand]

I found this is the Breeders Cup profile:

Green Hills Farm is the nom de course of Dimitrios Katsaras of New York City. It is an ownership group that was incorporated in Delaware in 1994 and consists of a two-person Board of Directors, a managing owner and six employees
The stable comprises two broodmares and about 15 horses, including racing stock, utilizing trainers Christophe Clement and Todd Pletcher
Several yearlings were purchased at sales in Keeneland and Saratoga. Voodoo Dancer is the stable star
Green Hills Farm has not previously run a horse in the Breeders' Cup.

Looks like they are expanding the broodmare band.

[Lakeway]

It looks like they purchased Receipt. She had a Lemon Drop Kid colt this year and they're listed as the breeder.

[ShuveesGirl]

It looks like they purchased Receipt. She had a Lemon Drop Kid colt this year and they're listed as the breeder.


Love the Kid! Very underrated as a sire.

[Zamindar]

Hopefully Home Rule won't be entered against another Juddmonte filly next time! The slow early pace didn't help much and Javier showed a lot of confidence in the filly when he asked her to quicken through the gap on the rail. She remains a really promising filly. After such a promising start to the season, Persistently has got progressively worse and showed very little interest from the gate last time. Shug has tried pretty much everything with the filly, who really hasn't been the same since her Breeders' Cup experience. It's difficult to have much confidence going into the race tomorrow but hopefully the blinkers will help. So Explosive was very close to making it two in a row last time but will have to improve again tomorrow at monmouth Park. Surreptitiously has been working well since his debut and will hopefully be more prominent coming into the stretch on sunday.

Cashier, Bauble and Viva la Flag were all sold a while back.

[Lakeway]

Cladan - once again thanks for the information. Will be cheering for Persistently, So Explosive and Surreptitiously.

I was wondering if you have any information on Fly the Flag and With Flying Colors. I haven't received any workout notifications for them in quite a while.

Thanks...

[Roar]

With Flying Colors was sold after her stakes win at Belmont last year - she ran in the Beldame for Todd Pletcher and her new owners, but I think that was her last start. I assume she was retired and bred this spring.

[Aspidistra]

Persistently finished 3rd after a wide trip.

[Lakeway]

Persistently finished 3rd after a wide trip.


I tried to post yesterday about 15 minutes before the race, but the site seemed to be having problems, so couldn't get it posted. She came out of the gate ok, but fell back right away. Seemed like she just couldn't quite get in stride. She did come on at the end some to just get third.

[QuietChristopher]

Persistently finished 3rd after a wide trip.


Trip didn't matter. She is just not a top horse any longer. One has to wonder if she ever really was. Her only good race probably had more to do with her plodding style. She should be on the farm in the next couple weeks. Her racing days appear to be over. It is amazing she is a Smoke Glacken.

[Zamindar]

Trip didn't matter. She is just not a top horse any longer. One has to wonder if she ever really was. Her only good race probably had more to do with her plodding style. She should be on the farm in the next couple weeks. Her racing days appear to be over. It is amazing she is a Smoke Glacken.


You may be right.

[Tappiano]

Given her pedigree she'd be worth something if she's sold privately but it's awfully late in the season to breed her.

[Aspidistra]

True, it's late, but if she's lost interest, why bother keeping her in training. She costs a lot more in training than on the farm.

[Marker in the sand]

Rescue Squad returns on Friday. Nice to see him back on the track.

[wooley85]

True, it's late, but if she's lost interest, why bother keeping her in training. She costs a lot more in training than on the farm.

I don't believe the Phipps' are hard-up enough to be pressed by Shug's expense for a stall vs the farm.

[Marker in the sand]

Pretty good return for Rescue Squad. Should move forward off that. I see Deceive and Boisterous are making their turf debuts on Sunday.

[Lakeway]

Pretty good return for Rescue Squad. Should move forward off that. I see Deceive and Boisterous are making their turf debuts on Sunday.

Thanks Marker. Darn, missed Rescue Squads race.

For any others that might be interested in Deceive and Boisterous on Sunday:
Boistersous runs in race 3 at Belmont. It's a MSW at 1 1/16 on the turf. Listed owner is Cynthia Phipps.
Deceive runs in race 4 at Belmont. It's also a MSW at 1 1/16 on the turf

[Marker in the sand]

Spanish Art looked good yesterday. Great ride by Castellano saving all the ground. The final time isn't fast but the pace was slow and they came home very fast. Could a stake race be next?

[Roar]

Consequence goes today in the 7th at Belmont. She continues to run well if not spectacularly each time out - shame she never really broke through like her stakes win last summer at Arlington suggested she might.

And Gone Astray runs in the Salvator Mile at Monmouth this weekend. Fingers crossed that he can revert to his form of last fall, rather than continuing with the rather mediocre efforts he's put in this year.

A couple of the 2yos continue to drill regularly - with Saratoga fast approaching, can't wait to see some of them starting to make the entries!

[SaratogaBob]

Consequence goes today in the 7th at Belmont. She continues to run well if not spectacularly each time out - shame she never really broke through like her stakes win last summer at Arlington suggested she might.

And Gone Astray runs in the Salvator Mile at Monmouth this weekend. Fingers crossed that he can revert to his form of last fall, rather than continuing with the rather mediocre efforts he's put in this year.

A couple of the 2yos continue to drill regularly - with Saratoga fast approaching, can't wait to see some of them starting to make the entries!
Hi Roar!
Quick question! I finally got an e-mail about Prankster working again, and it seems she and Fly the Flag are at OTC (Ocala Training Center, perhaps?), and both worked 3f the other day. I cannot recall ever seeing a Shug horse work at OTC. Do you know what happened with Prankster in particular? Shug was working her weekly and suddenly stopped 3/27.

[Roar]

Hi Bob!

I can't say that I'm aware of anything particular having happened to Prankster. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if she was just a little slow to come around, being as she's by Ghostzapper (by Awesome Again) and out of an Unbridled mare.

It does appear that the Phippses have started using Ocala for some of their stock that isn't ready to be at the track - something I don't remember being the case prior to this year. But I believe Ritual is another that was at OTC for a time, and he's entered for this weekend at Belmont, still under the black and cherry.

[SaratogaBob]

Hi Bob!

I can't say that I'm aware of anything particular having happened to Prankster. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if she was just a little slow to come around, being as she's by Ghostzapper (by Awesome Again) and out of an Unbridled mare.

It does appear that the Phippses have started using Ocala for some of their stock that isn't ready to be at the track - something I don't remember being the case prior to this year. But I believe Ritual is another that was at OTC for a time, and he's entered for this weekend at Belmont, still under the black and cherry.
I was half hoping OTC was the Oklahoma Training Track, but Buzzy & Shug will be here soon enough....I'm really looking forward to Randy's induction & book signings up here. I'm sure he'll have something to say about PE & GFW induction day. Have you read his book? Not for the squemish, but his section on PE was special.

[Marker in the sand]

Consequence goes today in the 7th at Belmont. She continues to run well if not spectacularly each time out - shame she never really broke through like her stakes win last summer at Arlington suggested she might.

And Gone Astray runs in the Salvator Mile at Monmouth this weekend. Fingers crossed that he can revert to his form of last fall, rather than continuing with the rather mediocre efforts he's put in this year.

A couple of the 2yos continue to drill regularly - with Saratoga fast approaching, can't wait to see some of them starting to make the entries!

Ritual, a 3 year old colt (Pulpit - Furlough) is in the 7th on Saturday MDSW 7F Turf. His only start at 2 he was 4rth to Buddy's Saint.

[Lakeway]

Ritual, a 3 year old colt (Pulpit - Furlough) is in the 7th on Saturday MDSW 7F Turf. His only start at 2 he was 4rth to Buddy's Saint.

Thanks Marker. Somehow I missed putting him in my Virtual Stable.

A couple of others that might be of interest:
Fly the Flag breezed on 6/26 at the Ocala Training Center. Really hoping she'll make it to the races.
Pardon (even though sold) is entered to race in the Firecracker Stakes, at Mountaineer, on 7/3. Her full brother, Indefinite, breezed on the turf, at Saratoga on 6/28.

[Lakeway]

Ritual finished 3rd. The chart said 4 wide into the stretch, up for 3rd. There was no way he was going to catch the winner, but was closing on the 2nd place horse.
As he hadn't raced since last September (and that was his first and only race), hopefully he'll move forward off this race.

[Lakeway]

Gone Astray looked great winning the Salvator Mile...

[Moonglow756]

Gone Astray looked great winning the Salvator Mile...

He sure did! Wow, he powered down the stretch like someone had given him a hotfoot! Very, very impressed! This is a beautiful horse that just needs a little more consistency ... he ran today like he could handle tougher company.

[Cladan]

A wonderful win from Gone Astray given the slow early fractions. The colt has always been pretty straight and was working well coming into the race. Hopefully he will have a productive second half of the season and we can look forward too Saratoga will a little more optimism. Ritual had a number of setbacks after his 2yo debut and showed that he is a colt with a lot of promise. Given his training, it was easier to bring the colt back on the turf and despite running green throughout, Ritual was closing quite well to the wire. Snooze is going to have to improve to hit the board at Philly on monday and Very Cool is probably best watched in a maiden claimer. Political Agenda showed some decent speed on his turf debut last time and Shug has brought the gelding even further back in distance for tuesday. Given the manner in which Provincial ended her race career it would be so exciting for the mare to have a winner from her first foal.

[Lakeway]

Hi Cladan -

Glad that you're happy about Ritual's race, and Gone Astray was awesome...

Was wondering if you could elaborate on your comment "the manner in which Provincial ended her race career" ?

I didn't have Very Cool on my list, so will add him.

Thanks...

[Prairie Bayou]

He (Gone Astray) was motoring in the last part of it.


http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs053.ash2/36032_434562473054_535073054_5914985_1315685_n.jpg

[flytothestars]

Hope he resides at Claiborne when his retirement rolls around- at least hopefully he can run another year

He sure is showing his potential on the track

[Cladan]

It would be wonderful if Gone Astray was retired to Claiborne, as well as Blame. The colt is going to have to show a little more consistency against the better horses and it remains to be seen whether he is Gr.1 calibre. We can anticipate a 5yo campaign, although any decision will be dependent on what the colt does from now to the end of the season. Nevertheless, it was a sparkling performance on saturday and that is a superb picture, thank you for posting.

I am told that Snooze ran her best race to date and was closing quite well from off a good early pace. It gives us some hope for the filly's next couple of races, albeit in a small maiden somewhere and a win is all she needs.

It's wonderful that Dancinginmydream's two fillies are working more regularly and it would be nice to see them both on the track this year. Given that the Janney's only have 2yo colts this year, we're not going to see too many 2yo fillies on the track, so Puzzling will be watched with some interest. Protesting remains on course for the Lake George and it is likely at the moment that Persistently will get another chance at Saratoga. The filly has shown she likes the track and there is no sense in sending her to the farm just yet.

Provincial was vanned off in her last race and suffered a career ending leg injury.

[Roar]

The first of this year's 2yos debuts for the stable on the 15th - Air Support (C. Smart Strike x Gaze) goes 5-1/2 furlongs at Belmont.

[Marker in the sand]

He will be going up against Chili Cat's first foal.

[Aspidistra]

Wotan (b.h., Dynaformer-Rhineland 2005, bred by Cynthia Phipps) won at Delaware 1 mile 70 yds on turf ($30K claiming NW3L), he carried 5-7 lbs more than anyone else in the field.

[Cladan]

Cladan, I too scan the forum for your posts. I previously had responded on the Final Turn forum. Obviously, with a username like Blitey, I am an avid Phipps fan. I look forward to your updates. I see that Fabulous Prize has been working alot and Ritual is working as will. It was puzzling that Puzzling worked at Calder. I also saw that Step Lively had been working but has been missing for awhile and Indefinite and a few others have worked at Niall Brennan's. I am also interested if Dancinginmydreams, Oh What a Windfall and Heavenly Prize are close to having their foals. Thanks, Blitey

Hi Blitey,

Sorry that I didn't reply sooner. You may be interested to learn that Castanet was retired to the broodmare band and had a Malibu Moon filly back in April.

[Cladan]

The first of this year's 2yos debuts for the stable on the 15th - Air Support (C. Smart Strike x Gaze) goes 5-1/2 furlongs at Belmont.

As you know, Air Support has been mentioned a few times and we shall learn quite a bit about how the 2yo colts compare after his debut. It's fun to see Imaging working a little more seriously and hopefully Gaze will have a bit of success for Mr. Janney as the season progresses.

[Roar]

Profitable (4yo gelding by AP Indy x Finder's Fee) broke his maiden in a low level claimer at Colonial today, going 1M.

[Roar]

Home Rule is entered in the 3rd tomorrow at Belmont, going a mile on the turf. No Juddmonte fillies in there for her to take on this time, and hopefully she can get back to the form she showed in her first couple of starts.

I suppose it's a good thing that Gone Astray didn't ship down for the BC Dirt Mile given that he didn't threaten against $70k company at Belmont over the weekend. Wonder what's up with him, since he's clearly got more ability than that.

[Roar]

Races are off the turf, and Home Rule scratched.

In tomorrow at Belmont for his second start is Look About, a Tiznow half to Criminologist who didn't show much in his debut. Fingers crossed for some improvement!

[Roar]

The 2yo daughters of Inside Information (Evasion, by Empire Maker) and Pleasant Home (How Pleasant, by Distorted Humor) both worked again yesterday at Niall Brennan's.

[Cladan]

I guess there is always plenty written prior to the Breeders Cup but there is a nice write-up on Air Support on the NYRA website. Mr. Janney offers some insight that has either been deleted or not discussed in this thread. Perusal was a favorite that didn't work out because of injury and hopefully Imaging will be able to return to the track next year. The Smart Strike colt is still pretty green but looks to have a live chance, so we shall have to wait and see. Persistently is her usual self and will no doubt be ignored by the experts coming into the race. The main concern would have to be how 'souped-up' the track will be and the anxiety of the filly coming home safely. There will undoubtedly be a good pace for Persistently to run at and it is exciting, as well as nerve wracking to have a couple of horses that good do well.

I hope everyone has a nice week.

[Starine]

From the DRF:


Air Support, winner of the Pilgrim Stakes and a top contender for the Juvenile Turf, worked four furlongs in 48.05 on Sunday over Belmont’s main track. Under exercise rider Jennifer Patterson, Air Support went off a quick opening quarter in 23.16 while coming home a second a quarter in 24.89. He galloped out six furlongs in 1:12.31.

“Went off a little quicker than we wanted,” trainer Shug McGaughey said. “On the dirt, that was fine. He’s a different horse when you put him on the grass.”

Winter Memories, the probable favorite for the Juvenile Fillies Turf, had a spirited jog the wrong way around Belmont’s main track. Winter Memories and the McGaughey pair of Air Support and Persistently were scheduled to leave New York by plane for Kentucky on Sunday afternoon.

[Roar]

And here's the article from the NYRA site that I assume Cladan was referring to:

Although he started his career on the dirt, Air Support has made an early name for himself running on the New York turf, earning a trip to the Breeders’ Cup courtesy of a workmanlike win in the Grade 3 Pilgrim at Belmont Park on October 3.
A son of Smart Strike out of the unraced Danzig mare Gaze, Air Support was bred by owner Stuart Janney, III, who said he thought the match could just as easily produce a talented dirt horse as a turf specialist.
“Smart Strike is an awfully good sire and he gets good grass horses,” said Janney. “With Gaze’s breeding, I think she might well have good grass horses, but also great runners on dirt.”
Gaze is out of Laughing Look, making her a half-sister to Coronado’s Quest, a multiple-graded stakes winner on dirt whose win record includes the 1998 Travers Stakes. She has produced two turf runners by Dynaformer, Perusal and Imaging, both of whom are stakes-placed on the grass in New York.
“I’ve always thought well of Gaze,” said Janney. “She had a very difficult production history when she first started out as a broodmare. With Dynaformer getting older, we were trying to find a top sire for a pretty good mare in order to get a dirt horse or a grass horse.”
Air Support debuted in a 5 ½-furlong maiden special weight race at Belmont on July 15, finishing fifth and convincing his connections that he might prefer turf.
“I wanted to see how he’d do on dirt,” said the colt’s Hall of Fame trainer Shug McGaughey. “When he was a young 2-year-old, we always kind of liked him. He’s got a good pedigree being by Smart Strike, and I probably thought he’d like the grass all along because his half-brother [Perusal] liked it.”
After an impressive work on the Saratoga turf on July 28, McGaughey sent Air Support to make his second start in a 1 1/8-mile turf maiden on August 13, which he won by a nose after a stalking trip.
“Shug called me after he worked on the turf and said ‘This horse is really a different horse on grass than on turf,’” said Janney. “His first win was very close, and I thought he ran a very courageous race.”
“He was still a little bit green when he broke his maiden,” McGaughey added. “He chased a pretty hot pace, but he was able to win – when the other horses came to him, he went on again.”
Off that victory, Air Support started next in the Grade 3 With Anticipation on closing weekend at Saratoga, piloted by Rajiv Maragh to a fourth-place finish behind Soldat, who is also Breeders’ Cup bound.
“I thought his race there was decent, the turf was like a conveyor belt and Rajiv came back and said ‘Man, he really tried, we just couldn’t catch up, they weren’t coming back,’” McGaughey said. “So I felt right after that race that the turf at Belmont would play to his liking a little bit better.”
Exactly one month later on October 3, Air Support turned the tables on Soldat, drawing clear in the lane to win the Grade 3 Pilgrim over yielding ground, which guaranteed him a starting berth in the one-mile Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf on November 6. On Wednesday, he breezed four furlongs over the main track at Belmont Park in 48.42 and is scheduled to depart for Louisville today.
“Being a 2-year-old, I’d rather get him in there and let him get settled because there will be so much activity,” McGaughey said. “[With an older horse] you kind of know what you’ve got, with a 2-year-old, sometimes you don’t know what you’ve got. When I took Storm Flag Flying to Chicago [for the 2002 Juvenile Fillies, a race she won en route to Champion 2-year-old filly honors], we went in kind of on top of the race. I galloped her in the morning, early, and then when she ran that afternoon, with all the signs and the stands and everything, she was looking at everything.
“He’s still a little bit immature,” McGaughey continued. “I think he’s done very well and I think that he deserves a chance to run in there. I still think his future is in front of him.”
Janney – who bypassed the frequently used financial and mining references when naming the son of Smart Strike reasoning that “a smart strike might also be an air attack" – is thrilled to send a homebred to the championship series.
“I love that he’s a homebred,” said Janney, who has longstanding ties to the horse’s family. His parents campaigned the champion filly Ruffian, sired by Reviewer, a son of Bold Ruler, as well as her older sibling, Laughter, a daughter of Bold Ruler and the dam of Laughing Look. “It adds a little extra dimension. I’ve got an awful lot in this family and it would be terrific to see it prosper.”

[Cladan]

Pleased that both horses came home safe, particularly with the way the turf course was handling. Air Support didn't really handle the loose surface but it was always worth a shot and there is plenty to look forward too for next year. Persistently ran her usual race and doesn't owe anybody. It's been a roller coaster season for the filly and her career will always be defined by many of us for her races at the Spa.

It was wonderful to see Rescue Squad return to his best form in the Red Smith Handicap and the colt showed some tenacity coming up the inside in a close finish. Hopefully this augurs well for next year and an injury free season.

The winner of the Red Smith was Grassy, who added to what has been an incredible weekend for Mrs. Dilschneider and the Hancock family. Apart also won a Gr.3 on the friday and I don't think any of us will forget the exhilerating finish to the Classic. Blame will be a welcome addition to the stallion roster and really confirms the versatility of Arch as a sire but also the earlier belief that he can get some top quality horses from Seeking the Gold mares.

[BigCountry]

It was wonderful to see Rescue Squad return to his best form in the Red Smith Handicap and the colt showed some tenacity coming up the inside in a close finish. Hopefully this augurs well for next year and an injury free season.
So happy for him. He does look special in the blinkers, but they certainly seemed to help him. Love that boy.

[Cladan]

Mares sold at the Keeneland sale;

Resort 260,000
S' Avall 550,000
Strategy 425,000
Just Reward 825,000
Oh What a Windfall 510,000

Look to the King 185,000

The next session will be on Wednesday. The only withdrawal from the sale is Drifting Away.

[Marker in the sand]

I see Imagining (Giant's Causeway-Daydreaming) to debut on the turf Saturday. Would love to see Daydreaming produce a good one. Break Up The Game is also entered for Saturday on the dirt going 7F.

[raven]

I see Imagining (Giant's Causeway-Daydreaming) to debut on the turf Saturday. Would love to see Daydreaming produce a good one. Break Up The Game is also entered for Saturday on the dirt going 7F.
Break Up The Game. am i loosing it or a horse by the same name run in n.y in the 80s?

[PONYRCR]

Break Up The Game. am i loosing it or a horse by the same name run in n.y in the 80s?

That name sounds familiar to me too. Although I don't know why it rings a bell with me.

Looked it up at the BC site and there was a Break Up The Game that was foaled in 1971.

[Slewfan2]

Just another running Bernardini - Break up the Game went off at 22-1 and JUST missed to a Pletcher firster. He's no plodder and he closed very well........considering that Shug doesn't win often with firsters, this was a very encouraging race.

[Starine]

Just another running Bernardini - Break up the Game went off at 22-1 and JUST missed to a Pletcher firster. He's no plodder and he closed very well........considering that Shug doesn't win often with firsters, this was a very encouraging race. I saw that -- it was a great run he made and he was unlucky to miss. And that Pletcher firster he just lost to is a half-brother to Ashado who sold for $925,000.

[Slewfan2]

I saw that -- it was a great run he made and he was unlucky to miss. And that Pletcher firster he just lost to is a half-brother to Ashado who sold for $925,000.

I actually wasn't that impressed with the winner............more impressed with the runner-up (though I'm completely biased towards Bernardini). The winner runs with his head high - I knew he got the photo as soon as the race was over, but it was one of those instances where I was disappointed and not disappointed. I wanted to win, but the colt running well was more important.

[Lakeway]

Yes, is was a good, and fun to watch, race by Break Up the Game, sure thought he was going to get there. Just noticed that Imagining was scratched - hope he's ok.

Also, forgot congratulations to Bimini for finishing second in his race last week - yeah...

[raven]

That name sounds familiar to me too. Although I don't know why it rings a bell with me.

Looked it up at the BC site and there was a Break Up The Game that was foaled in 1971.

i was going to say the 70s first. anyway i bet the 2010 version today. man where have all this years gone? thousands of races and days at the track. i feel old all of a sadden!

[wooley85]

I saw that -- it was a great run he made and he was unlucky to miss. And that Pletcher firster he just lost to is a half-brother to Ashado who sold for $925,000.

Break Up The Game was covered up, inside. If Cohen got him out a few strides earlier he may have won. Turned on the afterburners down the stretch to miss by a long nose.
It was a 7f race for 2 yr olds.


Went off at 22-1!

[raven]

Break Up The Game was covered up, inside. If Cohen got him out a few strides earlier he may have won. Turned on the afterburners down the stretch to miss by a long nose.
It was a 7f race for 2 yr olds.


Went off at 22-1!

Rub It in!

[wooley85]

Rub It in!

Hell...I had BOTG in the DD. If he won, the DD was 124.00 :jaw:wirth the fav in the first.

[Marker in the sand]

Cladan, I wonder if I could get a status update on a couple of promising horses from the spring that I have not seen on the work tab in quite some time. They are Colors Flying and Hymn Book. I think both last ran during Derby week. Also the old gelding Hunting is it possible he makes it back to the track?

[Lakeway]

These 3 worked today at Belmont, all on the dirt at 4F:

Abaco (08f) Giant's Causeway x Cat Cay 17/39
Data Link (08c) War Front x Database 13/39
Fly the Flag (07f) Giant's Causeway x My Flag 19/39

[Roar]

These 3 worked today at Belmont, all on the dirt at 4F:

Abaco (08f) Giant's Causeway x Cat Cay 17/39
Data Link (08c) War Front x Database 13/39
Fly the Flag (07f) Giant's Causeway x My Flag 19/39

Additionally, Boisterous (07C Distorted Humor x Emanating) got the bullet,
Admiral Perry (08C First Samurai x Western Humor) was 3/39, and
Correct Response (08C Vindication x Search Party) went in company with Abaco from the looks of it.

From my notes, it looks like the only three juveniles from this year's crop yet to work are Go Ballistic (F Empire Maker x Awesome), Out of Touch (F Arch x Voyage), and Safe House (C Bernardini x Country Hideaway).

[Marker in the sand]

Additionally, Boisterous (07C Distorted Humor x Emanating) got the bullet,
Admiral Perry (08C First Samurai x Western Humor) was 3/39, and
Correct Response (08C Vindication x Search Party) went in company with Abaco from the looks of it.

From my notes, it looks like the only three juveniles from this year's crop yet to work are Go Ballistic (F Empire Maker x Awesome), Out of Touch (F Arch x Voyage), and Safe House (C Bernardini x Country Hideaway).

I am pretty sure Out of Touch was sold in the Keeneland 2009 September yearling sale. Go Ballistic was aslo in that sale but didn't reach the reserve.

[Lakeway]

These 2 are racing in the next week:

Enhancing (08f - Forestry x Heavenly Prize) - 11/16 Phil Race 7 - MSW 1 Mile and 70 yards
Admiral Perry (08c - First Samurai x Western Humor) - 11/20 Phil Race 5 - MSW 6F

Hope both do well...

[Lakeway]

Here are some others that I've been watching for:

1) Haven’t been able to find anything (training, racing) for these 2:
Intelligent (08f) First Samurai x Hidden Reserve
Concord Bridge (08c) Arch x Lady Liberty

2) No races, but had been training this summer. No current works:
Indefinite (08c) Elusive Quality x Furlough – worked in June at the Ocala Training Center

Seal Cove (08c) Strong Hope x Meghan’s Joy – worked in June at Saratoga
Secret Asset (08f) Awesome Again x Smuggler – worked in May at the Niall Brennan Stables

3) Raced in July, but nothing since:
Puzzling (08f) Ghostzapper x Dancinginmydreams

[Roar]

Here are some others that I've been watching for:

1) Haven’t been able to find anything (training, racing) for these 2:
Intelligent (08f) First Samurai x Hidden Reserve
Concord Bridge (08c) Arch x Lady Liberty

2) No races, but had been training this summer. No current works:
Indefinite (08c) Elusive Quality x Furlough – worked in June at the Ocala Training Center

Seal Cove (08c) Strong Hope x Meghan’s Joy – worked in June at Saratoga
Secret Asset (08f) Awesome Again x Smuggler – worked in May at the Niall Brennan Stables

3) Raced in July, but nothing since:
Puzzling (08f) Ghostzapper x Dancinginmydreams

Intelligent just sold for $40k at the Keeneland November Sale last week.

[Roar]

Enhancing just finished near the back of the pack in Philly - appeared not to take to the "good" surface I thought.

[brigadier gerard]

It appears Vacation was sold to S. American interests. Hope he has as much success as Easing Along.

[Cladan]

As the family's horses have begun to switch over to Florida for the winter, the weekend still has a lot of interest and hopefully a few winners.

Admiral Perry finished a distant 2nd to Uncle Mo on his debut and then didn't care for the mile at Belmont in his subsequent effort. Reverts back to 6f and a drop in class at Philly on saturday and will hopefully perform a lot better than Enhancing did on tuesday, who didn't care much for the surface. The dam has yet to produce a winner from her 3 foals of racing age and was retained over her more accomplished half sister a week ago.
Gone Astray has been pretty flat in his past two efforts and it's difficult to sumise what kind of performance the colt is going to give in a minor stakes at Monmouth. Has been working fine, so we shall have to see.
Adjacent this lightly raced filly was pretty impressive when winning her maiden last month and has so much potential for next year. It would be wonderful for Mr. Janney to have another win from this filly before she ships down to Florida.
Ritual has not been without his problems and this headstrong colt has been a little disappointing in his past couple of efforts. If this colt can put it all together, then we may have something to cheer about on sunday.

Aside from Air Support, the few 2yo's that have run this year have been relatively low key. Golddigging was sold a while back and is the only Phipps homebred 2yo to win this year. Break Up the Game came pretty close and vindicated Shug's decision to scratch the colt a couple of times in the summer. There is a lot to like about the colt and there were some well regarded horses in the field. The dam has produced 5 winners, although all of them were allowance types. Perhaps the most interesting discussion at the moment is whether Bernardini will do better for the stable than his sire.

[Slewfan2]

As the family's horses have begun to switch over to Florida for the winter, the weekend still has a lot of interest and hopefully a few winners.

Admiral Perry finished a distant 2nd to Uncle Mo on his debut and then didn't care for the mile at Belmont in his subsequent effort. Reverts back to 6f and a drop in class at Philly on saturday and will hopefully perform a lot better than Enhancing did on tuesday, who didn't care much for the surface. The dam has yet to produce a winner from her 3 foals of racing age and was retained over her more accomplished half sister a week ago.
Gone Astray has been pretty flat in his past two efforts and it's difficult to sumise what kind of performance the colt is going to give in a minor stakes at Monmouth. Has been working fine, so we shall have to see.
Adjacent this lightly raced filly was pretty impressive when winning her maiden last month and has so much potential for next year. It would be wonderful for Mr. Janney to have another win from this filly before she ships down to Florida.
Ritual has not been without his problems and this headstrong colt has been a little disappointing in his past couple of efforts. If this colt can put it all together, then we may have something to cheer about on sunday.

Aside from Air Support, the few 2yo's that have run this year have been relatively low key. Golddigging was sold a while back and is the only Phipps homebred 2yo to win this year. Break Up the Game came pretty close and vindicated Shug's decision to scratch the colt a couple of times in the summer. There is a lot to like about the colt and there were some well regarded horses in the field. The dam has produced 5 winners, although all of them were allowance types. Perhaps the most interesting discussion at the moment is whether Bernardini will do better for the stable than his sire.

Break up the Game ran really well - and was into the race pretty early. By that I mean, he's no plodder. Bernardini is passing on speed (but tactical speed, not crazy kind), so I think he may genuinely do better than Indy did with Phipps mares. Any word on Safe House, the other Phipps Bernardini? Thanks!

[Lakeway]

Two more that are racing Sunday at Aqueduct:

As Cladan mentioned, Ritual is running. Race 1, a 1 mile MSW on the dirt.
Data Link in Race 5, a 1 mile MSW on the turf.

As always, hope they both run well, and come home safe and sound...

[Roar]

Pretty solid effort from Admiral Perry - took the worst of it by traveling very wide throughout, led off the turn and maintained a clear advantage to the wire. Hopefully the rest of the weekend is just as successful for the stable.

[Lakeway]

Yeah!!! for Admiral Perry.

Did more checking for tomorrow. Unfortunately, Data Link is an AE, so probably won't run.
Missed another Janney horse that's running tomorrow at Aqueduct. Adjacent - Race 9 an Allowance.

[Lakeway]

Gone Astray was running very well at the end to finish second to the favorite, Well Positioned, in the Frisk Me Now Stakes at Monmouth.

[Roar]

Adjacent gave Shug and the Janneys two good-looking winners on the weekend - scored rather handily after an inside trip, and would have to think she's bound for the stakes ranks before long.

[Roar]

In the 4th at Aqueduct on Saturday, Correct Response (C. Vindication x Search Party, half to Criminologist) debuts at 6F.

In the 5th, Data Link (C. War Front x Database) is in at 1-1/16 miles on the turf, with Point of Entry (C. Dynaformer x Matlacha Pass, half to Pine Island and Streaker) entered MTO in that same race.

[Cladan]

In the 4th at Aqueduct on Saturday, Correct Response (C. Vindication x Search Party, half to Criminologist) debuts at 6F.

In the 5th, Data Link (C. War Front x Database) is in at 1-1/16 miles on the turf, with Point of Entry (C. Dynaformer x Matlacha Pass, half to Pine Island and Streaker) entered MTO in that same race.

Correct Response is entered against some nice sorts and is due to run in the same same race as his half brother a few years ago. Rescue Party is the only dirt winner from his dam and was held in high regard before injury ended his short career. While the Vindication colt is best watched on saturday, Data Link appears to have a solid chance on the turf, having progressed well in his races. I trust nobody is reading this when I say that I hope that the race is an off track and we can see Point of Entry make his debut. It would have been lovely if Matlacha Pass could have had a filly but this colt seems to have a bright future and is the last of the Dynaformer's.

Lakeway, the 2yo's that you mention will either ship or have shipped to Florida, while a couple have been considered for the January Sale. Forgot to mention that Imagining was a healthy scratch.

[Slewfan2]

Cladan, do you know if Shug intends to run Break up the Game again this year? I thought he ran really well in his debut and it would be nice if he could break his maiden before the end of the year

[Cladan]

Cladan, do you know if Shug intends to run Break up the Game again this year? I thought he ran really well in his debut and it would be nice if he could break his maiden before the end of the year

My understanding is that Break up the Game will be trained for a MSW at the beginning of the year at Gulfstream Park. The colt will be given plenty of time and we shall learn more about him on what will undoubtedly be a speed favoring track

[Slewfan2]

My understanding is that Break up the Game will be trained for a MSW at the beginning of the year at Gulfstream Park. The colt will be given plenty of time and we shall learn more about him on what will undoubtedly be a speed favoring track

Thanks! One thing he has going for him is that he's not a plodder, so GP shouldn't hurt him as much as it has some other horses.

[Cladan]

A cosy win for Data Link this afternoon and rounded off a great week for the Janney colors. Shug was able to get the run into Correct Response before shipping to florida and the colt will learn a lot from the experience. Not sure what the jockeys on the runaway lead were thinking, particularly on a couple of 2yo debutants but there you go.

I shall sign off for the rest of the year and wish everyone a wonderful holiday season.

[monty]

A cosy win for Data Link this afternoon and rounded off a great week for the Janney colors. Shug was able to get the run into Correct Response before shipping to florida and the colt will learn a lot from the experience. Not sure what the jockeys on the runaway lead were thinking, particularly on a couple of 2yo debutants but there you go.

I shall sign off for the rest of the year and wish everyone a wonderful holiday season.

Thank you very much and a happy holiday season to you.

[monty]

I just noticed Data Link goes way back to the old Bwamazon breeding in Rullah Good. I broke a filly out of her called Sailors Mate. Neat.

[Lakeway]

Just got to watch the replay - enjoyed watching Data Link get the win.

Thanks for all the great information Cladan. Happy holidays to you, and yours.

[Aspidistra]

Happy Holidays, Cladan. Best wishes to you and yours. Thanks for the information and perspective. Data Link was a nice win today.

[Marker in the sand]

Asset Play (Seeking the Gold, Proxy Statement by AP Indy 4yo) Making his debut at Calder on 12/9. Interesting they have a horse this old making his first start.

[Lakeway]

Asset Play (Seeking the Gold, Proxy Statement by AP Indy 4yo) Making his debut at Calder on 12/9. Interesting they have a horse this old making his first start.

Wonder if something like the situation that Overbrook had with Alumni Hall? Just little nagging injuries that kept him on the sidelines. If I remember correctly Alumni Hall didn't finally run until he was 5, but won a couple of G2's and over $700,000.

[brigadier gerard]

Asset Play (Seeking the Gold, Proxy Statement by AP Indy 4yo) Making his debut at Calder on 12/9. Interesting they have a horse this old making his first start.

Deed It Is and Bimini goes the next day.


http://www.pedigreequery.com/deed+it+is

[brigadier gerard]

L'aiglon and Ritual entered 12/11 at Calder.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/laiglon10

[Thumbsucker]

L'aiglon and Ritual entered 12/11 at Calder.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/laiglon10

Ritual got his act together(partially anyway,he was rank the first part of the race) when he broke his maiden in Race 1 at Calder on Saturday. L'aiglon was scratched.

[brigadier gerard]

Does anyone know if the barn is high on Point of Entry? He's scheduled to run at Gulfstream Park on Saturday.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/point+of+entry

[Roar]

Haven't heard anything from the barn about him, but he's been drilling pretty sharply, especially for a Shug-trained first-timer.

[brigadier gerard]

Haven't heard anything from the barn about him, but he's been drilling pretty sharply, especially for a Shug-trained first-timer.

Thanks! It seems his last work was a bullet at Payson Park.

[Cladan]

A bunch of the yearlings have been officially named;

f Caxamba Pass Tiznow x Matlacha Pass
c Subsonic Malibu Moon x Voyage
f Magical World Distorted Humor x Pleasant Home
f Street Dancer Street Cry x Salute
c Senate Whip Henrythenavigator x Just Reward
f Satisfaction Awesome Again x Dancinginmydreams
f Strut Malibu Moon x Castanet
c Overwhelming Hard Spun x Oh What a Windfall
c Secret Bid Street Cry x Inside Information
c Secretive Indian Charlie x Collusion
c Suspicious Dixie Union x Illicit
c Scam Giant's Causeway x Smuggler
c Hallucinate Street Cry x Daydreaming
f Islamorada Smart Strike x Cat Cay
f Jet Away Mr Greeley x Resort

[Roar]

LOVE Subsonic, Scam and Hallucinate!

Glad that the names submitted for the colt out of Boca Grande (Trestle) and the filly out of Storm Flag Flying (Jalapeno) were rejected...



A bunch of the yearlings have been officially named;

f Caxamba Pass Tiznow x Matlacha Pass
c Subsonic Malibu Moon x Voyage
f Magical World Distorted Humor x Pleasant Home
f Street Dancer Street Cry x Salute
c Senate Whip Henrythenavigator x Just Reward
f Satisfaction Awesome Again x Dancinginmydreams
f Strut Malibu Moon x Castanet
c Overwhelming Hard Spun x Oh What a Windfall
c Secret Bid Street Cry x Inside Information
c Secretive Indian Charlie x Collusion
c Suspicious Dixie Union x Illicit
c Scam Giant's Causeway x Smuggler
c Hallucinate Street Cry x Daydreaming
f Islamorada Smart Strike x Cat Cay
f Jet Away Mr Greeley x Resort

[brigadier gerard]

Senate Whip should be nominated for the Epsom Derby.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php?query_type=horse&search_bar=horse&h=SENATE+WHIP2&g=5&p=0&f=1&l=

[BigCountry]

Loving the name Overwhelming. Guessing that's what he'll find his life to be. God bless those Oh What a Windfalls.

[Roar]

Pretty decent debut for Point of Entry yesterday - showed a surprising amount of speed for a Dynaformer half to Pine Island. He fell back a little bit off the turn, but wasn't losing any ground at the end of the 1 mile race. Finished 4th.

[Cladan]

Pretty decent debut for Point of Entry yesterday - showed a surprising amount of speed for a Dynaformer half to Pine Island. He fell back a little bit off the turn, but wasn't losing any ground at the end of the 1 mile race. Finished 4th.

The concern coming into the race on that track was having to keep the colt close to the pace and he got tired after the second quarter. It was certainly an encouraging effort and it's difficult not to get excited about the colt's future. Point of Entry is a heavy topped colt that will hopefully improve considerably next time, as he is certainly more in the mould of Pine Island as opposed to Streaker. What was particularly eye catching was how the colt kept running down the stretch.

[Roar]

Fly the Flag (4yo filly Giant's Causeway x My Flag) makes her second start on Friday at Gulfstream, going 1-1/16M on turf. She didn't show much in an off-the-turf sprint first time out last fall.

Correct Response (3yo colt Vindication x Search Party) is an AE in a maiden on Friday, also at 1-1/16M on turf. He had a pretty typical Shug debut a couple months ago in a dirt sprint.

Break Up the Game (3yo colt Bernardini x Pennant Champion) is in a 7F maiden on Saturday. This will be his second start after running Ashado's brother Lauburu to a nose decision a couple months back.

[brigadier gerard]

Fly the Flag (4yo filly Giant's Causeway x My Flag) makes her second start on Friday at Gulfstream, going 1-1/16M on turf. She didn't show much in an off-the-turf sprint first time out last fall.

Correct Response (3yo colt Vindication x Search Party) is an AE in a maiden on Friday, also at 1-1/16M on turf. He had a pretty typical Shug debut a couple months ago in a dirt sprint.

Break Up the Game (3yo colt Bernardini x Pennant Champion) is in a 7F maiden on Saturday. This will be his second start after running Ashado's brother Lauburu to a nose decision a couple months back.

Look About(Tiznow x Search Party 4yo colt) also goes on Saturday.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/look+about

[Slewfan2]

I LOVE Breakup the Game, but I would have preferred to see him entered in a mile race. Still, I think he's talented - and he's no plodder based on his debut.

[brigadier gerard]

Are there any 2010 Bernardinis or Dynaformers?

[Lakeway]

Are there any 2010 Bernardinis or Dynaformers?

The only one I know of is a Manoa (Seeking the God) filly that's jointly owned by the Phipps and Janney's.

[brigadier gerard]

The only one I know of is a Manoa (Seeking the God) filly that's jointly owned by the Phipps and Janney's.
Thanks!
Don't know if this John Sparkman article on the Phippses breeding history was posted before:

http://www.opencomputing.ca/ormonde/ftp/Phipps%20family%20bloodstock.pdf

[Lakeway]

Here's hoping that both Fly the Flag and Correct Response run well (and of course come home safely) today.

[Roar]

Well, neither of them ran well, but neither of them really ran badly enough to think they didn't come home safe either. And actually, Fly the Flag was only beaten about 3 lengths, so it could've been worse...

[Slewfan2]

Break up the Game ran well to be 4th. It's clear that 7 furlongs is too short for him - and probably the layoff hurt him. He should love two turns...........

[PONYRCR]

Do the Phipps still own Vacation?

He's back on the work tab.

Your Notes: 2005 .c, Dynaformer-Country Hideaway(Seeking The Gold)

VACATION worked 5f ft in 1:11.00 B (5/5) at DEL, 01/15/11.

[BigCountry]

That appears to be an Arabian named Vacation