Zenyatta News

[islandgirl45]

Uncle Mo's first-string Valentine wish was crushed, so he's moved on:)........

Uncle Mo (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Uncle-Mo/150181301692159) -- I wanted to ask Zenyatta to be my Valentine but she had already picked Bernardini. There's a real cute filly here named Awesome Maria and when she walks by my stall I am going to ask her to be mine. She's gray and reaaaal pretty. She walks by my stall a lot so I know she likes me.
https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181536_179027105474245_150181301692159_387932_7430 895_s.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=179027105474245&set=a.152081588168797.25887.150181301692159)



From Uncle Mo's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Uncle-Mo/150181301692159?v=wall

[firehorse]

Cute! But Little Silver Charm hasn't given up yet - don't remember who originally posted his Facebook page in regards to Z but it's getting to be pretty funny.


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Little-Silver-Charm-at-Old-Friends/113471835374378

[islandgirl45]

Central Kentucky YMCA to auction Zenyatta meeting
Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:25 PM
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2011/02/15/central-kentucky-ymca-to-auction-zenyatta-meeting.aspx

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/images/zenyatta3-benoit.jpg
ZENYATTA
Benoit & Associates photo

"The High Street YMCA in Lexington is offering a private meeting with 2010 Horse of the Year Zenyatta as part of a silent auction to benefit the YMCA of Central Kentucky. The auction will begin February 21 and end at noon EST on February 28.
Zenyatta, who will be bred to Bernardini, is stabled at Lane’s End in Versailles, Kentucky. The winning bid will be invited to visit Zenyatta. Personal pictures with Zenyatta will be allowed for a group of four to six people this summer............"

[moonwalker]

A few pages back on "Zenyatta news," I was asking about a photographer who took a picture of Zenyatta and Mike Smith at Keeneland. It was very similar to a Wendy Wooley (sp?) photo but the angle was from the back instead of the side. Well, I finally found the photographer -- Kim Angel.

Her website is here: http://www.equineimagesbykim.com/

I can't link to the photo itself or put it here, but if you go to site and look under "Products" then drop down to "Art Prints" and to the right to "Zenyatta," it brings up a slide show of images from Zenyatta's visit to Keeneland. The photograph I was looking for is the second one. Mario is holding Zenyatta and Mike Smith, in his tweedy coat and Dick Tracy hat, has his hand up near her neck. It looks like something out of 1940's film noir.

Thanks for your help!

Mary MMM

[The Tin Man]

I know everybody knows about this billboard, but I'm not sure if it's in the thread, so what the heck. I love it! :)

Just the thought that L.A. would have a billboard featuring a racehorse is pretty mind-boggling to me. It REALLY shows how unique is is/was!

[GinTalking]

I know everybody knows about this billboard, but I'm not sure if it's in the thread, so what the heck. I love it! :)

Just the thought that L.A. would have a billboard featuring a racehorse is pretty mind-boggling to me. It REALLY shows how unique is is/was!

Smarty Jones had billboards. Well, I imagine it was Philadelphia Park that put them up, but he was right there, bigger than life.

[second_glance]

Smarty Jones had billboards. Well, I imagine it was Philadelphia Park that put them up, but he was right there, bigger than life.

At least one of them was put up by the city, I'm pretty sure. He also had a full police escort from Philly Park to Belmont. We got progress reports on the local news and sports stations. <g>

[The Tin Man]

At least one of them was put up by the city, I'm pretty sure. He also had a full police escort from Philly Park to Belmont. We got progress reports on the local news and sports stations. <g>

Yep! And that was a pretty big deal and out of the ordninary ... Hence my point. ;-)

Pretty cool stuff. :)

[EquineAnne]

Yep! And that was a pretty big deal and out of the ordninary ... Hence my point. ;-)

Pretty cool stuff. :)

It is a pretty big deal and very much out of the ordinary. Thanks for sharing Tinny.

[Retrospectiv]

For anyone who's not on Facebook.....how cute is this pic? :)

1049

[JT Dancer]

For anyone who's not on Facebook.....how cute is this pic? :)

1049

Where's the 'like' button? I saw that this morning; it's too cute!

[Kurenai]

This is sooo cute. Perfect picture! :becky: Saw it on Facebook and could not stop giggling.

[Blue Jeans]

Thanks so much for posting, Retrospectiv. Love it!

They could be sitting around talking about Capone. Does he still visit the girls every morning? Love that story.

[PJMIII]

Great picture. Thanks for sharing.

[Native Diver]

I love this picture!
Zenyatta; "So ladies, I'm excited about finally getting to meet Bernie, but I'm hearing some stuff about him that has me concerned. Like, I heard he was a cribber and I don't believe in cribbing and consider it a character flaw."
Pirate Queen; "Oh please, cribbing is no big deal. They get a bad rep because some of them don't know when to stop. My own mom cribbed here and there; claimed it was great for your stamina. Get over it."
Zenyatta; "Well, you're probably right. I'd be alot more concerned if he was tail-chewer. That's where I draw the line. Could there be a more disgusting habit than tail-chewing? Eeeew."

[Rick1323]

I think Z was more worried about his rumored drug problem.

[EquineAnne]

I love this picture!
Zenyatta; "So ladies, I'm excited about finally getting to meet Bernie, but I'm hearing some stuff about him that has me concerned. Like, I heard he was a cribber and I don't believe in cribbing and consider it a character flaw."
Pirate Queen; "Oh please, cribbing is no big deal. They get a bad rep because some of them don't know when to stop. My own mom cribbed here and there; claimed it was great for your stamina. Get over it."
Zenyatta; "Well, you're probably right. I'd be alot more concerned if he was tail-chewer. That's where I draw the line. Could there be a more disgusting habit than tail-chewing? Eeeew."

Is Bernie a cribber really?

[Native Diver]

Is Bernie a cribber really?

No, not that I know of. I was just being facetious. I can't help myself, that picture just begged me to fill in some dialogue. I don't think he chews his own tail either. :laugh:

[EquineAnne]

No, not that I know of. I was just being facetious. I can't help myself, that picture just begged me to fill in some dialogue. I don't think he chews his own tail either. :laugh:

LOL

[Native Diver]

I think Z was more worried about his rumored drug problem.

I heard it was a concern too; but by all accounts he's sworn the stuff off and is staying clean. A stud can't be a junkie and a reknowned sire. It's one or the other, you know.

[Minersmarq]

Give it 12 hours and there will probably be an announcement....all I'm saying...:tape:

[drjohnh]

Give it 12 hours and there will probably be an announcement....all I'm saying...:tape:

awesome..thanks

[Retrospectiv]

Give it 12 hours and there will probably be an announcement....all I'm saying...:tape:

You sneak! Did one of your crew drive her over?

[Hermes]

You sneak! Did one of your crew drive her over?

There was a red carpet and rose petals on the roads...

[Retrospectiv]

There was a red carpet and rose petals on the roads...

LOL, tell that to someone from the blog and they'd probably believe you ;-)
I did remember reading about them playing a particular music for Makybe Diva for one of her trips to the shed though...

[Uh-oh Bango]

No, not that I know of. I was just being facetious. I can't help myself, that picture just begged me to fill in some dialogue. I don't think he chews his own tail either. :laugh:

But it's nice to dream. That was funny, Diver!

[Uh-oh Bango]

LOL, tell that to someone from the blog and they'd probably believe you ;-)
I did remember reading about them playing a particular music for Makybe Diva for one of her trips to the shed though...

Hunka hunk of Berning Love.

... Looks like we're in for a shivaree!

[Hermes]

Yes I am sure when it gets repeated that Bernie is a cribber, which he isn't to my knowledge, from the many novices reading this site, and then that is repeated as, "I heard..." Darley will once again be over the moon about the "fans" they work so hard to accommodate.

Of course, I am pretty sure a couple of the farms would prefer that van drivers not repeat info on the world wide web, too...

[Curlin]

There was a red carpet and rose petals on the roads...

An insider told me they were piping Barry White music into the breeding shed too.

[Retrospectiv]

I don't see any van drivers saying much of anything to implicate themselves on here.

[islandgirl45]

Yes I am sure when it gets repeated that Bernie is a cribber, which he isn't to my knowledge, from the many novices reading this site, and then that is repeated as, "I heard..." Darley will once again be over the moon about the "fans" they work so hard to accommodate.

Of course, I am pretty sure a couple of the farms would prefer that van drivers not repeat info on the world wide web, too...

Hmmm, could that be the same van driver on TBC who bragged about transporting Blame, and later said he wasn't looking forward to Zenyatta doing what he called "that pawing sh!t" in his van if he transported her? Yes, I believe it was.

[Native Diver]

Yes I am sure when it gets repeated that Bernie is a cribber, which he isn't to my knowledge, from the many novices reading this site, and then that is repeated as, "I heard..." Darley will once again be over the moon about the "fans" they work so hard to accommodate.

Of course, I am pretty sure a couple of the farms would prefer that van drivers not repeat info on the world wide web, too...

Anyone (that even cared or mattered) with a brain in their head wouldn't put any validity into an internet rumor about B being a possible cribber. You check that stuff out at Snopes.com, anyway. I'd be alot more concerned about what you read written on bathroom walls, because there's no Snopes to check that out with. In any possible event, I think Darley can handle it. Really, I do.

Can we not have just a small, tiny amount of celebratory fun and teeheeing here without the principal coming over the intercom? Were we that loud?

[Hermes]

Anyone (that even cared or mattered) with a brain in their head wouldn't put any validity into an internet rumor about B being a possible cribber. You check that stuff out at Snopes.com, anyway. I'd be alot more concerned about what you read written on bathroom walls, because there's no Snopes to check that out with.

Can we not have just a small, tiny amount of celebratory fun and teeheeing here without the principal coming over the intercom? Were we that loud?

He is NOT a cribber, that's the point. Why should anyone even HAVE to wonder? When I read what you wrote, I thought, hm, really? I didn't know that he cribbed, because I assumed you'd be able to make a humorous post using actual attributes of the horse? And yes, trust me, idiots repeat sh!t they see posted on message boards as gospel. It amazes me every day. I will give you that Bernie sucking anything isn't an urgent matter.

You know in all the time I have on my hands to post here, checking out snopes for Bernie's habits (or ANY horse story) was not at the top of my lists of to-do's. Here is a hint for you if you want to try to be clever, use some truth in the "ha-ha." And learn to spell "a lot" while you stay after school teeheeing.

[Minersmarq]

Ok crabbies, next time I know something, I'll keep it and the pictures to myself:evil:

[islandgirl45]

Ok crabbies, next time I know something, I'll keep it and the pictures to myself:evil:

Gosh, I just hope she didn't paw through the bottom of your van.:evil:

[Hermes]

Ok crabbies, next time I know something, I'll keep it and the pictures to myself:evil:

I enjoy your inside info, as I am sure many do here. But I think keeping your employer's client's privacy as a priority is an excellent career move for you. I respect that.

[Retrospectiv]

I respect the fact that Islandgirl and Hermes have no say on what gets posted here. I'm sure MM is smart enough to realize that too.

[Native Diver]

He is NOT a cribber, that's the point. Why should anyone even HAVE to wonder? When I read what you wrote, I thought, hm, really? I didn't know that he cribbed, because I assumed you'd be able to make a humorous post using actual attributes of the horse? And yes, trust me, idiots repeat sh!t they see posted on message boards as gospel. It amazes me every day. I will give you that Bernie sucking anything isn't an urgent matter.

You know in all the time I have on my hands to post here, checking out snopes for Bernie's habits (or ANY horse story) was not at the top of my lists of to-do's. Here is a hint for you if you want to try to be clever, use some truth in the "ha-ha." And learn to spell "a lot" while you stay after school teeheeing.

Oh, save it, Hermes. Your reaction to a simple bit of fun is so much overdone. I totally stand by my statement that no knowledgable, reputable horse person (at the level and in the circles of horse people that would matter as far as Bernie goes) would take an internet rumor as fact, and if the posts are read in context there wouldn't even be a rumor to begin with. You're giving "the idiots" that repeat sh!t an awful lot of credit.

Further, when you feel compelled to nitpick (that's nitpick with a 'k" just so it's understandable) "a lot" versus "alot" it only makes you look that much more comically hypercritical. If it makes you feel better, I'll be glad to start a thread titled "BERNIE IS NOT A CRIBBER NOR A TAILCHEWER".

[islandgirl45]

I respect the fact that Islandgirl and Hermes have no say on what gets posted here. I'm sure MM is smart enough to realize that too.

I respect the fact that my post didn't tell MM he couldn't say or do something, but rather commented on his trash-talking of Z last year. Have a smart day, Retrospectiv.:)

[Retrospectiv]

I respect the fact that my post didn't tell MM he couldn't say or do something, but rather commented on his trash-talking of Z last year. Have a smart day, Retrospectiv.:)

You think every comment someone makes is trash talk and overreact to it every time. MM wasn't 'trash talking' about Zenyatta in that comment you mentioned on the previous page. Quit trying to be the board police and princess, it's not becoming.

[islandgirl45]

You think every comment someone makes is trash talk and overreact to it every time. MM wasn't 'trash talking' about Zenyatta in that comment you mentioned on the previous page. Quit trying to be the board police and princess, it's not becoming.

^^^Speaking of overheated nonsense. Perhaps it's time for you to switch to decaf.

[moonwalker]

Minersmarq, I appreciate your little *wink wink* information. I can read between the lines. Thanks!

Mary MMM

[Play The King]

LOL, tell that to someone from the blog and they'd probably believe you ;-)

:bounce:LOL!!

[PerfectSoul]

I agree with Moonwalker. I always enjoy MinersMarq's posts.

[EquineAnne]

Per Zen's FB page, the deed is done.

http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-92-2

[Rick1323]

Per Zen's FB page, the deed is done.

http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-92-2

I knew that....the van driver told me.

[drjohnh]

I knew that....the van driver told me.

very true, we are lucky to have him posting here.
it is nice to read that all went well and that she was a pro

[Retrospectiv]

very true, we are lucky to have him posting here.
it is nice to read that all went well and that she was a pro

Be lucky is he keeps posting with the trolls harrassing him.

[drjohnh]

Be lucky is he keeps posting with the trolls harrassing him.

since i don't remember him ever posting bad info, he has to know he will always get the last laugh

[Hermes]

since i don't remember him ever posting bad info, he has to know he will always get the last laugh

If I contracted a vendor to haul my horses, and his employee was posting photos or information before I decided to make it public, I'd fire 'em. But that's just me.

While everyone knew she was going this week, they do take precaution with her security or having to shoo away an occasional idiot, so I just would have respected that if for decorum more than functional requirement of employment.

Telling personal tales after it is public seems fine to me unless specifically told to not do so, which is unlikely in most cases. Those are enjoyable.

At the most, when posted in advance it comes off as "look what I know" and the number of people who read this board (even if they don't post much at all) who know inside info and don't betray it far outweighs the person who feels the need to do so.

In the least, the inside scoop being provided here is well intentioned and fun for some of you.

As for RetroTroll eh, what more can I say? Shine up that mirror, baby.

As for Native Diver not being humorous, maybe taking a deep breath would help?

[Curlin]

As for Native Diver not being humorous, maybe taking a deep breath would help?

Hmmm, I didn't know Native Diver was a cribber. ;)

[Hermes]

Hmmm, I didn't know Native Diver was a cribber. ;)

It's all over the net now. She paws in protest and tries to nip a LOT, too.:evil:

[Retrospectiv]

Herpes, just get over yourself.

MM didn't say anything even happened. All he said was there *might* be an announcement in 12 hours. Gosh, what kind of an *** would fire someone for spilling those beans?

I also don't recall him ever posting any photos before any 'event' happened. If anything, he's been professional and polite most all the time.

Stop being so damn crabby and trying to pick on everyone here. It's got to get tiresome for you, no?

[Hermes]

Herpes, just get over yourself.

MM didn't say anything even happened. All he said was there *might* be an announcement in 12 hours. Gosh, what kind of an *** would fire someone for spilling those beans?

I also don't recall him ever posting any photos before any 'event' happened. If anything, he's been professional and polite most all the time.

Stop being so damn crabby and trying to pick on everyone here. It's got to get tiresome for you, no?

You jumping in and politely calling people trolls and venereal diseases does make anything that MM has done with out any ill intent pale. True.

As for photos, no, that was MM's own reference to posting photos. I like MM and his posts. But I have often thought he posts inside info that the farms (his ultimate paycheck) would prefer be kept quite. And to that they are entitled IMO, as I have made clear without calling anyone a name to make my point.

[Sun Devils]

I didn't have a chance to read Zenyatta's post yet following today's activities, but did it go something like this:

"Toodle la dee toodle lee dah, what a happy morning it is today. My groom got here extra early and gave me peppermints and a new treat called Oxycontin. I ate those up and they tasted sour, but I digress. Oh boy, I am being taken out of my stall and they told me they are going to take me into the "magic shed." Neato!. Wow look, my new boyfriend Bernie is there waiting for me. My mom says she knows him, but when I asked her how, she told me mind my own business and not to say anything about it my father. Tee hee, mommy is so coy. Yippee, they said I am going to have my first official date with Bernie...but I don't see any food, or table, or drinks, or....WHAT THE F%&# was that...."

[Minersmarq]

Just wanted to say thanks for (almost) everyone's kind words. They're really appreciated.
Also, I talked to the driver that took her this morning and he said she was uncommonly, smart and professional about everything and apparently there wasn't even any of "that pawing sh!t".







Ever as always......Go Blame





Really thought I would go a day with out saying that??? You guys are slipping....;)

[Native Diver]

Hmmm, I didn't know Native Diver was a cribber. ;)

I might as well tell y'all that I've started going to Cribbers Anonymous. The collar doesn't work for me. Don't judge. It is something you can come back from, so don't suffer in silence should there be any closet cribbers out there. There is help for those who want it. :sad:

[Native Diver]

I didn't have a chance to read Zenyatta's post yet following today's activities, but did it go something like this:

"Toodle la dee toodle lee dah, what a happy morning it is today. My groom got here extra early and gave me peppermints and a new treat called Oxycontin. I ate those up and they tasted sour, but I digress. Oh boy, I am being taken out of my stall and they told me they are going to take me into the "magic shed." Neato!. Wow look, my new boyfriend Bernie is there waiting for me. My mom says she knows him, but when I asked her how, she told me mind my own business and not to say anything about it my father. Tee hee, mommy is so coy. Yippee, they said I am going to have my first official date with Bernie...but I don't see any food, or table, or drinks, or....WHAT THE F%&# was that...."

Funny! Love that. I have a feeling the Big Girl is feeling oddly satisfied in a way that was foreign to her until today. She just can't put her finger on this feeling, lol.

[Uh-oh Bango]

I didn't have a chance to read Zenyatta's post yet following today's activities, but did it go something like this:

"Toodle la dee toodle lee dah, what a happy morning it is today. My groom got here extra early and gave me peppermints and a new treat called Oxycontin. I ate those up and they tasted sour, but I digress. Oh boy, I am being taken out of my stall and they told me they are going to take me into the "magic shed." Neato!. Wow look, my new boyfriend Bernie is there waiting for me. My mom says she knows him, but when I asked her how, she told me mind my own business and not to say anything about it my father. Tee hee, mommy is so coy. Yippee, they said I am going to have my first official date with Bernie...but I don't see any food, or table, or drinks, or....WHAT THE F%&# was that...."

:evil:

[regret15]

I don't know if I can bear the wait for this foal.

[Horse's Rear]

No kidding. Eleven more months of this. When does this thread get retired from "Racing" and migrate over to the Breeding Shed?

[Curlin]

No kidding. Eleven more months of this. When does this thread get retired from "Racing" and migrate over to the Breeding Shed?

Not 11 months, more like 11+ years, or however long she is a broodmare. So there will be a non-stop fan fest from breeding, to tummy growing, to giving birth, to cute foal pics, 2nd year breeding, weaning prior foal, 2nd foal born, first foal becomes yearling / 2 year old, workout schedules, debut race, videos, ............. ah, exquisite torture for HR for more than a decade to come. Gotta love it. :evil:

[starrydreamer]

Also, I talked to the driver that took her this morning and he said she was uncommonly, smart and professional about everything and apparently there wasn't even any of "that pawing sh!t".



I wonder if that pawing nonsense disappeared when she started getting a lot of paddock time...

I always enjoy MM's stories. It's nice to hear about the personalities of the horses. He didn't disclose anything that would put Zenyatta at a risk - he said "an announcement in 12 hours." He didn't say "my coworker is picking her up at x hour and driving her from Lane's End to Darley." No way for any freak to try to sabotage things. I don't think he ever posts those kinds of details - more of a "I transported b and c yesterday." I don't see the harm in that.

[Horse's Rear]

Not 11 months, more like 11+ years, or however long she is a broodmare. So there will be a non-stop fan fest from breeding, to tummy growing, to giving birth, to cute foal pics, 2nd year breeding, weaning prior foal, 2nd foal born, first foal becomes yearling / 2 year old, workout schedules, debut race, videos, ............. ah, exquisite torture for HR for more than a decade to come. Gotta love it. :evil:

I just don't know what it has to do with racing.

[Curlin]

I just don't know what it has to do with racing.

I got an idea.

Since you're unable to control the contents of this thread, don't read it!

[Retrospectiv]

You jumping in and politely calling people trolls and venereal diseases does make anything that MM has done with out any ill intent pale. True.

As for photos, no, that was MM's own reference to posting photos. I like MM and his posts. But I have often thought he posts inside info that the farms (his ultimate paycheck) would prefer be kept quite. And to that they are entitled IMO, as I have made clear without calling anyone a name to make my point.

Hermes, when I mentioned trolls harrassing MM, I never mentioned your name, did I? Interesting that you assumed I was speaking of you though. Why would that be?

You threw in the RetroTroll in your next post (which did give me a laugh, thanks!). I just returned the favor with your favorite nickname when I wrote back.

The days over and done. Native Diver was having a little literary fun and MM just wanted to share some news without saying too much. Lighten up on them a little. And quit trying to play the good poster while your at it, you know, the one who doesn't insult or call people names to make a point. No one here is *that* new. Not that I dislike the cheap disguise mind you.

[Retrospectiv]

I wonder if that pawing nonsense disappeared when she started getting a lot of paddock time...



Wondered that myself. Always seemed to be a tension thing with her, though it was cute everyone thought of it as 'dancing'.

[Horse's Rear]

I got an idea.

Since you're unable to control the contents of this thread, don't read it!
I'm not sure what your problem is. I certainly don't object to the thread, I just wonder when we will realize Zenyatta is done racing.

[The Tin Man]

I'm not sure what your problem is. I certainly don't object to the thread, I just wonder when we will realize Zenyatta is done racing.

It IS actually a Zenyatta "NEWS" thread ... It would incorporate any news concerning her ... Not just active racing would it not? :hat:

[The Tin Man]

Wondered that myself. Always seemed to be a tension thing with her, though it was cute everyone thought of it as 'dancing'.

I always saw it as a "ready to go out and kick butt" thing ... Kind of a chomping at the bit deal.

I'm sure that the more likely reason was a nervous and anxiety thing ... Which makes her ability to go out and do what she did afterward all the more impressive. :)

[Curlin]

I'm not sure what your problem is. I certainly don't object to the thread, I just wonder when we will realize Zenyatta is done racing.

I don't have a problem at all. As Tin Man said, it's a thread about Zenyatta. The thread was started when she was racing. After she's done racing her progeny will carry on.

When I read....


No kidding. Eleven more months of this..... I feel compelled to state that it will be more than 11 months and if that's content you find irrelevant to racing, well, you needn't stress yourself out by reading more of the thread. Just sayin'.

[Horse's Rear]

It IS actually a Zenyatta "NEWS" thread ... It would incorporate any news concerning her ... Not just active racing would it not? :hat:

That part I get. My question was "why isn't the thread moved over to where Zenyatta is?" She isn't racing any more.

[second_glance]

Interview with David Ingordo. He talks a lot about Z; there are photos of her at the farm:

http://eventingnation.com/home/2011/02/finding-zenyatta.html

[Blue Jeans]

Interview with David Ingordo. He talks a lot about Z; there are photos of her at the farm:

http://eventingnation.com/home/2011/02/finding-zenyatta.html

Thank you for sharing! I'll save for reading later .... in a bit of a rush right now.

Would like to say, credit and praise to Capone for a job well done with those 'maidens'. lol

[CoronadosQuest]

Some of the comments on the Zenyatta Diary Post threads never cease to amaze me. Especially the comment regarding Barbaro.

[islandgirl45]

Some of the comments on the Zenyatta Diary Post threads never cease to amaze me. Especially the comment regarding Barbaro.

That looks like the one we all were giggling about recently in another thread, doesn't it? The one who had a shrine set up on the kitchen table and claimed "the mob had Barbaro whacked."

I couldn't decide then if the person was faking it or real.:)

[Hermes]

That looks like the one we all were giggling about recently in another thread, doesn't it? The one who had a shrine set up on the kitchen table and claimed "the mob had Barbaro whacked."

I couldn't decide then if the person was faking it or real.:)

If it mentioned the XXXXL FOB T shirt as the tablecloth of the shrine, it is not real. Although "real" is relative here.

[islandgirl45]

If it mentioned the XXXXL FOB T shirt as the tablecloth of the shrine, it is not real. Although "real" is relative here.

No, it didn't mention the shirt. But it did say...
"...if you think the mob didn’t injure BARBARO, your blind. im sure that after he broke through the gate, in the confusion he was whacked in the leg. nobody would have notice. it was a vast conspiracy."Which makes me think it could have been the same person.:evil:

[Forego]

Be lucky if he keeps posting with the (trolls) know-it-all, self-appointed, self-important, self-righteous, no-fun forum police harrassing him.


Fixed that for ya. http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/327220/rolleye.gif

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/327220/sigh.gif

[Hermes]

Fixed that for ya. http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/327220/rolleye.gif

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/327220/sigh.gif

Good thing you only fix things you seem to be an expert at...

[Hermes]

Hermes, when I mentioned trolls harrassing MM, I never mentioned your name, did I? Interesting that you assumed I was speaking of you though. Why would that be?

You threw in the RetroTroll in your next post (which did give me a laugh, thanks!). I just returned the favor with your favorite nickname when I wrote back.

The days over and done. Native Diver was having a little literary fun and MM just wanted to share some news without saying too much. Lighten up on them a little. And quit trying to play the good poster while your at it, you know, the one who doesn't insult or call people names to make a point. No one here is *that* new. Not that I dislike the cheap disguise mind you.

Oh, so the day was made longer by this post? As for troll, it was me or IG you were speaking to. And you used the word first, and way out of line in this thread, too. Playing games and pretending otherwise seems to be a sport here, but I am not often quite that disingenuous.:evil:

As for my disguise, actually, I mostly respond to others here, I don't go first with name calling. When I speak my mind first I do so with reason and am often fair, as I was to MM here. I have an opinion on privacy that should be afforded to clients in all industries as a general philosophy.

As an example of decorum on privacy, although not a vendor, but rather a fellow client of same vendor...when Dottie has been asked who Zenyatta's pasture buddies are being bred to, she defers to the privacy of the owners. That's what I'm talking about. If you don't like it, fine. but IMO, if someone wants to issue updates on their horse, or coy posts, then they should be the first one to do it.

[JD]

I posted this on another thread, my little tribute to Zenyatta and Bernie... to lighten your day...

Song of Bernardini (from Lane's End Story) (to the tune of Maria from West Side Story)

Zenyatta
I just saw a mare named Zenyatta
I'm walking to the shed
I think I'm off my head
It's HER!

Zenyatta
I just met a mare named Zenyatta
We're barely introduced
But I think I've been seduced
By her!

Zenyatta
Say it soft, and the future looks glorious
Say it loud – and our foals are victorious
Zenyatta!
Zenyatta! Zenyatta! Zenyatta!

Zenyatta
I danced with a mare named Zenyatta
She has such a kind eye,
I know that I'm the guy
For her!

Zenyatta
I just met a mare named Zenyatta
I think it's very clear
She must come back next year,
She's mine!

Zenyatta
Say it soft, and the future looks glorious
Say it loud – and our foals are victorious
Zenyatta!
Zenyatta! Zenyatta! Zenyatta!

[Blue Jeans]

JD, love the tribute to Z & B. Made my day! This and "Ode to Uncle Mo" written by a B-H poster at the latest Steve Haskin article I just read. You two are very talented folks!

Keep 'em coming.

[JD]

JD, love the tribute to Z & B. Made my day! This and "Ode to Uncle Mo" written by a B-H poster at the latest Steve Haskin article I just read. You two are very talented folks!

Keep 'em coming.

Thanks Blue Jeans! I had my husband in stitches this morning when I was thinking up the words!

[Native Diver]

JD, I LOVE IT. A masterpiece!

Soon, coming to a city near you..... "ZENYATTA": The Musical!

[JD]

JD, I LOVE IT. A masterpiece!

Soon, coming to a city near you..... "ZENYATTA": The Musical!
hehehe, that would be TOO CUTE, as Zenyatta (Dottie) might say!
Thanks guys! Maybe I'll post it on Zenyatta's site.

[Citation07]

Just saw these awards, which I'm admittedly clueless about, in a different context, but one of the winners caught my eye:

All-Pro Class Clown
Dwight Howard (NBA)

Alti-Dude (Top alternative sports high flyer.)
Ryan Sheckler (Skateboarding)

Best Foes Forever (The award for the best rivals.)
New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox

Captain Clutch
DeSean Jackson

Dance Machine (The award for the best celebratory dance.)
Terrell Owens (NFL)

Dynamic Duo
Michael Smith and Zenyatta (Horse Racing)

Fanatic Fanstars (The award for the most passionate fan base.)
Green Bay Packers Cheeseheads

Gnarliest Newb (The award for the top rookie.)
Blake Griffin (NBA)

He’s Got Game (The award for the best male athlete.)
Drew Brees (NFL)

Most Awesome Mascot(Sponsored by Pepperidge Farm Goldfish crackers.)
Milwaukee Bucks’ Bango

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2011/02/22/cartoon-network-announces-winners-of-hall-of-game-awards-237313/20110222cartoon01/

Made me giggle a bit. :)

[moonwalker]

Loves me some "Michael Smith" and Zenyatta!
LOL

Mary MMM

[Play The King]

JD that was a great tribute! Loved it!!! :)

On my way home on Friday after reading the latest on this thread, I drove by a woman walking and she was carrying a bag and all it said was...in big teal and pink block letters was PINK!!!

So, I'm going with Z is having a little filly! :)

I swear I'm not making that up! I don't think the person had a clue what that bag would have meant to racing fans right now lol! I think it was just a bag from a store in the mall here. :)

Jenn

[CoronadosQuest]

^ Maybe that is what Victoria's Secret is... they know the gender to Zenyatta's foal lmao however... I doubt it ;)

[EquineAnne]

Here's a pic of EBLOUISSANTE on Zen's FB page:

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She's a fine horse. Hope she runs 1/2 as good as sis.

[JD]

JD that was a great tribute! Loved it!!! :)

On my way home on Friday after reading the latest on this thread, I drove by a woman walking and she was carrying a bag and all it said was...in big teal and pink block letters was PINK!!!

So, I'm going with Z is having a little filly! :)

I swear I'm not making that up! I don't think the person had a clue what that bag would have meant to racing fans right now lol! I think it was just a bag from a store in the mall here. :)

Jenn

Thanks PTK! But I think I'm going with:
whatever she has, it will not be little, it will be substantial!:)
But hopefully not *too* substantial.

[PJMIII]

Zenyatta helps to raise $12,600 for YMCA

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2011/02/28/zenyatta-auction-ymca.aspx

[firehorse]

El Vino won today :)

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/USA/SA/2011/3/4/6/race-6

[islandgirl45]

El Vino won today :)

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/USA/SA/2011/3/4/6/race-6

Was he wearing Zenyatta's shadow roll for good luck?:)

[Spahny]

He ran a nice race. I would expect another move forward next time.

I pet his nose, so excuse me.

[hagginwood]

Probably had zero people watching on cable, but I saw the LA Sports Council annual awards and Zenyatta's 19th victory made #5 LA Sports moment of the year.

http://www.lasports.org/lagreatest_moments/annual.php

[Codysmom55]

Probably had zero people watching on cable, but I saw the LA Sports Council annual awards and Zenyatta's 19th victory made #5 LA Sports moment of the year.

http://www.lasports.org/lagreatest_moments/annual.php

Thanks for posting this, hagginwood. I love it. :)

[islandgirl45]

Helmet-cam view of Zenyatta's last gallop at Hollywood Park, posted by John Shirreffs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiB-NlrkrX4&feature=player_embedded

[The Tin Man]

Helmet-cam view of Zenyatta's last gallop at Hollywood Park, posted by John Shirreffs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiB-NlrkrX4&feature=player_embedded

Cool! I was there for that! I was wondering if it would ever see the light of day. Even saw myself in the video a couple of times ... Cool! :)

Here are some pics of Steve with his helmet cam from that day and Zenny on the training track.

[The Tin Man]

FEEL GOOD STORY!!

As an aside ... For paying his dues ... I think Zenny's designated training sidekick deserves a big shout out here!

He ran his 1st race about a year ago and came in 7th ... Then was designated as a training buddy for Zenyatta and didn't race again until about a month ago. He came in a fast closing 2nd in his first race back ...While get this ... Running as a deep closer, trailing the entire field by as many as 10 lengths until they hit the stretch run. He lost by 3/4 of a length.

Last Friday, he ran with the same style ... Trailing all but one horse in the field by at least 7 lengths again until the stretch run. Then he closed like a freight train, gobbling up ground in an instant. He won very easily, by a couple of lengths. His style is VERY similar to Zenny's and I'm loving watching this guy develop.

With the shadows during the last race, it darkened his coat and visually, because of that and the silks, it really reminded me of Zenny as he ran everyone down. His stride through the close was very similar to hers. Maybe he picked up a thing or two from tagging along with her. ;-)

I think he's a great story and a ton of fun to watch thus far. Just thinking he sacrificed a year to be Zenny's punching bag and now he's finally getting his chance and making the most of it.

Here's to continued success for him.

If you haven't seen his 2 comback races and you're a Zenny fan, I'd suggest viewing them on CalRacing.com. They're pretty visually impressive. I'm really enjoying this guy. He's got a fan now. :)

Here are some pics of him from his last race ... His Maiden Breaker. He's now 3-1-1-0 ... Not bad!! :becky:

He's a truly gorgeous horse too!!

[The Tin Man]

El Vino won today :)

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/USA/SA/2011/3/4/6/race-6

Ooops! You beat me to it!!

Nice to see there are others watching this guy!! :becky:

[The Tin Man]

Was he wearing Zenyatta's shadow roll for good luck?:)

He actually DOES wear a shadow roll too IG. :)

Watch the replay of his last race on CalRacing.com ... I promise he will remind you of her with his run down the stretch. ;-)

[The Tin Man]

I hadn't seen El Vino's first race before, so I just watched it.

It was on Turf ... His 2 comback races were on dirt.

Methinks he just didn't like Turf because both of his dirt races were pretty darn impressive.

[The Tin Man]

Probably had zero people watching on cable, but I saw the LA Sports Council annual awards and Zenyatta's 19th victory made #5 LA Sports moment of the year.

http://www.lasports.org/lagreatest_moments/annual.php

And she had the # 2 moment in 2009! Pretty cool! :)

[islandgirl45]

He actually DOES wear a shadow roll too IG. :)

Watch the replay of his last race on CalRacing.com ... I promise he will remind you of her with his run down the stretch. ;-)

I saw it. That's why I wondered if it was hers.:)

[The Tin Man]

I saw it. That's why I wondered if it was hers.:)

Hmmmmmm ... Don't know if it's the same one. It would be cool if it were.

I'll ask John or Dottie the next time I see them. Dottie is super nice and VERY personable. She and Steve are my favorites of the group. They're all nice though ... It's just that Dottie and Steve are the "Chatty Cathy's" of the group!! :)

Dottie seems to know everything that is going on, so she'd likely know if it is or not. I'll ask her. ;-)

[Lord Helpus]

Gosh, He is a big as Zenyatta, too.

What level is he racing at now? MSW and into allowance?

Commanche Trail (who is standing out in my field and has been for the last 14 years) was the rabbit for Tabasco Cat when he and Holy Bull were rivals. He did not get to race in his specialty (sprints) until Tabasco Cat retired to the breeding shed.

He became a graded SW after that and won over $400,000. I always wonder what he could have done if he had been allowed to race as a sprinter right from the start. Losing time and again had to have taken a lot out of him.

[harvestmoon]

It was a maiden claiming...

[The Tin Man]

It was a maiden claiming...

And the purse was $31,000 ... So a decent level. I'm hoping he moves up a bit now and maybe take him off of the claim wire. He was up for $50,000. :(

[ComicalCat]

Hmmmm....today is day 14 post-breeding. Should hear soon on whether or not she "caught." :preggers:

[second_glance]

Hmmmm....today is day 14 post-breeding. Should hear soon on whether or not she "caught." :preggers:

Apparently won't be checked until the weekend:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/breeding-news/2011/03/09/zenyatta-not-yet-confirmed-in-foal.aspx

[serenassong]

Helmet-cam view of Zenyatta's last gallop at Hollywood Park, posted by John Shirreffs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiB-NlrkrX4&feature=player_embedded

Tee Hee, that tongue, I just want to pull it. What a happy horse!

[breezing]

she's in foal per Dottie http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-201

[CoronadosQuest]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/61836/zenyatta-confirmed-in-foal

Bloodhorse has a sentence about it.


After much anticipation during the 15-day period following Zenyatta’s mating to Bernardini, it was confirmed that the Horse of the Year is in foal.

[islandgirl45]

she's in foal per Dottie http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-201

And craving bananas!:)

[CoronadosQuest]

And craving bananas!:)

Wonder how many bananas Lane's End is going to receive now. hahaha

[Secretariat Forever]

GREAT news!!!

[Hermes]

Wonder how many bananas Lane's End is going to receive now. hahaha

Lexington must have just gone banana-less as the FOB's order up gift baskets for her. The Lane's End employees must enjoy the fruits of her labor.;-)

Forego liked bananas, too.

[Diver52]

I wish I owned stock in Chiquita. :) Do horses eat the peel?

Long ways to go, but so far so good.

[islandgirl45]

Lexington bakeries are lamenting the sad fact that Z didn't say she craved donuts.:)

[regret15]

WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!
Congrats to all!!!

Now the hard part, WAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Codysmom55]

:preggers: Yay!

[Kelly Kip]

Lexington must have just gone banana-less as the FOB's order up gift baskets for her. The Lane's End employees must enjoy the fruits of her labor.;-)

Forego liked bananas, too.

So does Beautiful Pleasure.

[PJMIII]

Good to hear that things are going well for her.

[Cigar]

Will she be moved to an equine facility just in case something goes wrong during delivery?

[Hermes]

Will she be moved to an equine facility just in case something goes wrong during delivery?

That would be unusual. So far, they are letting her be a horse.

[Rick1323]

That would be unusual. So far, they are letting her be a horse.

I'm actually surprised at just how much they are letting her be a horse.

[second_glance]

Another photo shoot at the farm!

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/throughthelens/archive/2011/03/14/zenyatta-s-looking-good.aspx

[Diver52]

What great photos--she still knows where the camera is, and she still looks ready to race. (But gotta take care of that tadpole!)

[Native Diver]

She does look fabulous and still looks ready for the track. It's reassuring to me to know that she's taken to retirement and pending motherhood as naturally and easily as she evidently has. Is there not anything this mare can't do well?! :love:

[Minersmarq]

Is there not anything this mare can't do well?! :love:
beat Blame??:evil::evil: I'm sorry, I couldn't resist

[Allspice]

beat Blame??:evil::evil: I'm sorry, I couldn't resist

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/AniAmi14/wciii-punch-o.gif

lol JK. XD I love this game and couldn't pass up a chance to use a gif from it. <3

[islandgirl45]

A dinner of sweetfeed and aloe vera gel, Yum!:)

I like the frozen whiskers picture. And one of the other shots looks like she still has her dapples, although they're not as prominent in her winter coat.

[Blue Jeans]

Wonder how many bananas Lane's End is going to receive now. hahaha

Have you seen how shiny Zenyatta's coat is!! Her banana cravings have really paid off ... her coat is so bright and shiny. :happy:

Check out her latest blog at B-H ... Zenyatta's looking good! :photo:

[EquineAnne]

Anyone ever buy one of the BH photos? Just wondering what the quality was like.

[Codysmom55]

Anyone ever buy one of the BH photos? Just wondering what the quality was like.

I have and the quality has been excellent.

[EquineAnne]

I have and the quality has been excellent.

Thanks.

[PJMIII]

Glad to hear that she's looking good and doing well.

[Native Diver]

beat Blame??:evil::evil: I'm sorry, I couldn't resist

Good one, Mm. I know Blame is your special boy! :nod:

[Hermes]

Win one of the limited edition Zenyatta bronze statues in her Sweet 16 contest:

http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-205

[Citation07]

I have and the quality has been excellent.

That's great to know. I was considering buying the one of Zenyatta with the snow and ice on her whiskers. That was just a great photo.

[Man o' Taz]

beat Blame??:evil::evil: I'm sorry, I couldn't resist

Well, truth be told, she even did that...it just was AFTER the finish line in this particular case... :becky:

[EquineAnne]

That's great to know. I was considering buying the one of Zenyatta with the snow and ice on her whiskers. That was just a great photo.

that's the one I like!

[Citation07]

that's the one I like!

It's an awesome picture, isn't it? I've never bought a horse photo before, but I might have to in this case.

[GinTalking]

It's an awesome picture, isn't it? I've never bought a horse photo before, but I might have to in this case.

Why would anyone question the quality of a BH print? I doubt they sell junk ... and the important thing is that you like the photo. If you like it, go for it.

[Citation07]

Newest diary post, with a picture of the bronze done of Zenyatta. It looks great, IMO:
http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-209

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[Blue Jeans]

[QUOTE=Citation07;185563]Newest diary post, with a picture of the bronze done of Zenyatta. It looks great, IMO:
http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-209

QUOTE]

Gee, today's diary post is just full of info! Thanks for posting!

Wishing Life Is Sweet the very best.

Bernardini is 8 today. Yikes! And, he and Z are both Aries ... how neat! :)

Added: Who knew? Found at Google ... http://www.equinewhispers.co.uk/astrology1.html

>What's in the Stars for Your Horse?

Sun in Aries (March 21 - April 20)

Aries is the first sign of the zodiac, so a horse born under this sun sign likes to be first and is a natural leader. Aries is a cardinal fire sign and is ruled by the planet Mars. The Aries-sun horse is therefore extremely energetic by nature, as well as competitive and decisive. This horse shines when it can express its fiery competitive spirit. If you do not provide your Aries horse with an outlet for this feisty energy, then it may well decide to provoke a confrontation with you, just for fun! Whilst an Aries horse needs to be given space mentally and emotionally within the partnership to take some initiatives, you do need to teach this horse to think before it acts. The Aries-sun horse's impulsiveness can otherwise lead it into difficulties! The Aries horse also needs physical space to do its own thing each day, as it is such a bundle of energy and loves to be busy and active. It needs to run free in a field and challenge itself against other horses by playing dominance games and testing its physical strength. As Aries rules the head, this horse may have something about the head, which attracts attention. For this reason, many Aries-sun horses have a noticeable feature or a cut or scar somewhere on the head. The Aries horse may also be prone to bumping or hitting its head!<

[islandgirl45]

[QUOTE=Citation07;185563]Newest diary post, with a picture of the bronze done of Zenyatta. It looks great, IMO:
http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-209

QUOTE]

Gee, today's diary post is just full of info! Thanks for posting!

Wishing Life Is Sweet the very best.

Bernardini is 8 today. Yikes! And, he and Z are both Aries ... how neat! :)


Cute birthday picture of Bernardini on his Facebook page, too!

https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/188001_183698388328464_2996814_n.jpg (https://www.facebook.com/album.php?profile=1&id=183698388328464)

[EquineAnne]

Why would anyone question the quality of a BH print? I doubt they sell junk ... and the important thing is that you like the photo. If you like it, go for it.

Because I wasn't certain of the quality of the prints, that's why. Why would anyone question someone's asking? Why not just answer an honest question or shut up about it? Unless you're purposefully being biotch?

[Minersmarq]

[QUOTE=Blue Jeans;185578]


Cute birthday picture of Bernardini on his Facebook page, too!

https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/188001_183698388328464_2996814_n.jpg (https://www.facebook.com/album.php?profile=1&id=183698388328464)
Saw him this afternoon, He was in fine fiddle and even "got alittle" if I may be so indelicate on his bday.:evil:

[moonwalker]

Saw him this afternoon, He was in fine fiddle and even "got alittle" if I may be so indelicate on his bday.:evil:

Heh heh, in other words just another day in the life of Bernardini. :-)

Mary MMM

[Codysmom55]

http://www.drf.com/news/zenyatta-pregnancy-doing-well

From the article:

"An ultrasound examination taken Wednesday shows Zenyatta appears to be holding her first pregnancy, owner Jerry Moss said.
Moss confirmed that the planned ultrasound exam, the second one since the 7-year-old Horse of the Year’s Feb. 23 mating to Bernardini, took place Wednesday. Moss called the scan “a successful procedure” and confirmed the mare still is in foal. The routine ultrasound was carried out 28 days post-breeding and followed an initial ultrasound on March 10 that first confirmed Zenyatta’s pregnancy."

[gravano]

Sad to report Zenyatta is no longer in foal.
http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-214

[Slewfan2]

Oh no, how sad............:(

I'm devastated.......that would have been some foal.

[horsecrazygal21]

That news made me want to cry!

[EquineAnne]

Don't know if it's my tendency to be morbid (as Hermes would say) but I had a feeling she wasn't going to do well at this Mom thing and I pray it changes.

Does anyone know if she will be bred back or wait until next year? I wonder if they were expecting this or had a concern because they checked her on 3/24 and did it again a few days later. Is that common?

[Ty88]

I'm waiting for something more official than the diary page, no offense to her connections...Bloodhorse has nothing. Shouldn't this be news? If it's true it's devestating, I loved that mating.

[horsecrazygal21]

I'm waiting for something more official than the diary page, no offense to her connections...Bloodhorse has nothing. Shouldn't this be news? If it's true it's devestating, I loved that mating.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/breeding-news/2011/03/29/zenyatta-no-longer-in-foal.aspx

[Slewfan2]

Don't know if it's my tendency to be morbid (as Hermes would say) but I had a feeling she wasn't going to do well at this Mom thing and I pray it changes.

Does anyone know if she will be bred back or wait until next year? I wonder if they were expecting this or had a concern because they checked her on 3/24 and did it again a few days later. Is that common?

I was going to ask that - I don't think it's too late to breed her back

[jenn52318]

I would think they would try again, of course checking her out thoroughly. It is not too late in the season. I also would assume that they would go back to him as she was confirmed in foal, so it isn't his fault. Sometimes these things happen, sometimes they can't even be determined why. Hopefully it was a fluke and she will not be a hard mare to keep in foal.

If they do not try again this year, it could be for quite a few different reasons and reasons we might never know.

[EquineAnne]

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/breeding-news/2011/03/29/zenyatta-no-longer-in-foal.aspx

I can't get to that link. It won't engage.

[Ty88]

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/breeding-news/2011/03/29/zenyatta-no-longer-in-foal.aspx

Right, an article about the diary entry. Do you think her owners or Lanes End would release an official statement for a horse of her fame?

[Sheepish]

The diary entries are made by Z's connections. I don't think it could get more official than that.

It seems like a lot of the maiden mares I've followed the past couple of years have had this or similar happen. I don't know if it... not exactly common, but not unusual, or if it's just a coincidence.

[hagginwood]

Right, an article about the diary entry. Do you think her owners or Lanes End would release an official statement for a horse of her fame?


edit - sorry to be redundant. I'll just say it is sad, and hope they have better luck next time - I don't think it is too late to go back to be bred again.

I think Azeri was barren her first year? But her subsequent foals have done well? Going off the top of my head - maybe others can confirm?

[islandgirl45]

Is it common for maiden mares to have a difficult time staying in foal?

[Ty88]

The diary entries are made by Z's connections. I don't think it could get more official than that.


Yeah I know but hopefully an actual article is coming out, stating what happened, if they'll breed her again, if she's healthy, etc. Something that sounds like it was written by a knowledgeable human for curious concerned humans? I know I'm about to get slammed but I find the diary entries annoying and kind of stupid, especially when something that's actually news happens and I want to hear about it from a perspective other than a fictional typing Zenyatta's.

[ComicalCat]

Is it common for maiden mares to have a difficult time staying in foal?


No, it really isn't, but all the same it's not "un"common for mares to reabosorb an early pregnancy. I seem to see it happen half a dozen times or so a year, with different mares across a wide age range. Sometimes there's an easily determined cause, sometimes there isn't. Won't affect her ability to conceive or carry a foal to term. More on it over on the Breeding & Sales forum.

[EquineAnne]

Is it common for maiden mares to have a difficult time staying in foal?

I wonder if her age and how long she raced is a factor. How old was Azeri when she retired?

[jenn52318]

Part of it for her is how fit she was and wound up from racing can take some time to settle. Why it can be harder with maidens is you don't know what is normal for them, some need this med some need different amounts. Some pool fluid which makes it hard to stay in foal, etc. There are a million reasons, mares that have trouble staying in foal have to have uterine biopsies. I am sure they tested her before though so she should be clear, same with cultures. There is a lot that goes into it.

[islandgirl45]

I wonder if her age and how long she raced is a factor. How old was Azeri when she retired?

Azeri was retired at 6 and bred the next year, from what I read.

[Railbird]

Azeri was retired at 6 and bred the next year, from what I read.

Azeri was retired at 6 and bred the following spring (at 7) to Storm Cat. But she didn't conceive that spring - her first foal (Take Control) was a result of a breeding to AP Indy the year after that.

ETA:
Zenyatta WILL be bred again this spring, per the Blood Horse (quote from Lane's End)
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62178/zenyatta-loses-foal-will-be-bred-again?utm_source=twitter

[horsecrazygal21]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62178/zenyatta-loses-foal-will-be-bred-again?utm_source=twitter

[ComicalCat]

Azeri was retired at 6 and bred the next year, from what I read.


I'm 99.9% sure Azeri was bred the same year she was retired, however she did not get pregnant. I know she had a fractured cannon and was on stall rest and medications which can screw up a pregnancy, so that wasn't surprising.

My own experience with maiden mares is that they generally have a very good chance of conceiving and carrying to term without any incidents. Little "hick ups" along the way like this with Zenyatta are not uncommon and don't typically hinder the mare down the road.

[Ty88]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62178/zenyatta-loses-foal-will-be-bred-again?utm_source=twitter

Thank you.

[ComicalCat]

Azeri was retired at 6 and bred the following spring (at 7) to Storm Cat. But she didn't conceive that spring - her first foal (Take Control) was a result of a breeding to AP Indy the year after that.



Wasn't she being trained up to some race at Santa Anita that January (her 7yo year) and was retired after a breeze? She cracked/fractured a cannon bone, but they didn't report that...claimed she was sound.

[Railbird]

I'm 99.9% sure Azeri was bred the same year she was retired, however she did not get pregnant. I know she had a fractured cannon and was on stall rest and medications which can screw up a pregnancy, so that wasn't surprising.

No. You're definitely confusing her with someone else. Azeri retired (sound, I might add) following the 2004 BCC. She was bred the following spring to Storm Cat.

ETA: Saw your post above - we posted at the same time. She was on the farm that fall - not training for anything at Santa Anita. they BRIEFLY considered the Falls City after the BCC, but Lukas pulled the plug when the weights came out.

[ComicalCat]

No. You're definitely confusing her with someone else. Azeri retired (sound, I might add) following the 2004 BCC. She was bred the following spring to Storm Cat.

ETA: Saw your post above - we posted at the same time. She was on the farm that fall - not training for anything at Santa Anita. they BRIEFLY considered the Falls City after the BCC, but Lukas pulled the plug when the weights came out.

Well, all I know is that I did see a radiograph report with the name "Azeri" on it with a fractured cannon and vet recommendations for some time frame (months!) stall rest. Perhaps it was a different horse. Could have been a show horse for all I know. I've noticed duplications in different horse registries before; wouldn't be the first one to crop up.

In any case, back to Zenyatta, I'm fairly (lol, read VERY) confident she didn't race with a lot of drugs and the fact that she cycled quickly and conceived quickly tells me that reproductively, she is healthy. There's always the rare circumstance of, without going into gross details, certain physical problems that make staying pregnant a problem. But these are really quite rare. I'd be very very confident that Zen will get pregnant again and hold onto it.

[Rackon]

Part of it for her is how fit she was and wound up from racing can take some time to settle. Why it can be harder with maidens is you don't know what is normal for them, some need this med some need different amounts. Some pool fluid which makes it hard to stay in foal, etc. There are a million reasons, mares that have trouble staying in foal have to have uterine biopsies. I am sure they tested her before though so she should be clear, same with cultures. There is a lot that goes into it.

Your info is correct, as it stands.

However, this isn't a really big deal, unless this happens again. I'm sure Z has been palped and cultured before being bred, and I doubt that there was a serious cause for concern or she would have been fllushed, treated, biopsied etc. already.

For those who are not into breeding, this sort of early loss is common and while disappointing, of itself is no reason for alarm, much less the wringing of hands.

The fetus in a newly pregnant mare is tiny, it's not yet a foal, and it does not permanently attach to the uterine wall for several weeks. It literally travels all around the inside of the uterus, sensitizing it and getting it biochemically ready. Somewhere between day 35 and day 42 it usually attaches to the uterine wall and establishes a blood supply...that's why the ultrasounds after the first month are key. If something isn't quite right, the the fetus doesn't attach and is passed out. It's so little, you wouldn't even know it had happened - you know by its absence on the ultrasound after the fact.

I never used to get excited about a new pregnancy, especially with a maiden, until after they were 48-60 days in foal. Although they can still abort (they really don't "absorb") later in the term, if you get to the 2 month mark and they're still in foal you're usually good. We typically bred 25-35 outside mares a year, plus our own. There were always a couple that caught and lost, and had to be re-bred on second cycle. Most went on to conceive without problems in future. Veterinary medicine is even better now than it was 25-20 years ago too.

Conceiving but failing to carry later in the pregnancy is a much bigger concern, often harder to fix. Since Z is a maiden it's unlikely she has inflammation or scar tissue to cause her problems.

I'm sure Lane's End will bring all that modern reproductive science can bear to keep her in foal should she catch next time. They've probably already given her a shot to cycle her in early. Z conceived so easily on her first cover, I wouldn't be worried yet.

[jenn52318]

I am not worried either, just pointing out there is a lot that goes into it, and the number of things that can cause problems is high. Only concern like you said will come if it continues to happen. Sometime it just happens and it isn't a huge deal and they started early in the season so it should be fine.

[Sun Devils]

Per DRF, they are going to breed her again to Bernardini next week. Let's all hope for the best.

[Codysmom55]

Your info is correct, as it stands.

However, this isn't a really big deal, unless this happens again. I'm sure Z has been palped and cultured before being bred, and I doubt that there was a serious cause for concern or she would have been fllushed, treated, biopsied etc. already.

For those who are not into breeding, this sort of early loss is common and while disappointing, of itself is no reason for alarm, much less the wringing of hands.

The fetus in a newly pregnant mare is tiny, it's not yet a foal, and it does not permanently attach to the uterine wall for several weeks. It literally travels all around the inside of the uterus, sensitizing it and getting it biochemically ready. Somewhere between day 35 and day 42 it usually attaches to the uterine wall and establishes a blood supply...that's why the ultrasounds after the first month are key. If something isn't quite right, the the fetus doesn't attach and is passed out. It's so little, you wouldn't even know it had happened - you know by its absence on the ultrasound after the fact.

I never used to get excited about a new pregnancy, especially with a maiden, until after they were 48-60 days in foal. Although they can still abort (they really don't "absorb") later in the term, if you get to the 2 month mark and they're still in foal you're usually good. We typically bred 25-35 outside mares a year, plus our own. There were always a couple that caught and lost, and had to be re-bred on second cycle. Most went on to conceive without problems in future. Veterinary medicine is even better now than it was 25-20 years ago too.

Conceiving but failing to carry later in the pregnancy is a much bigger concern, often harder to fix. Since Z is a maiden it's unlikely she has inflammation or scar tissue to cause her problems.

I'm sure Lane's End will bring all that modern reproductive science can bear to keep her in foal should she catch next time. They've probably already given her a shot to cycle her in early. Z conceived so easily on her first cover, I wouldn't be worried yet.

Agree with this 100%. Good post.

[GeorgeWashington]

I hope she does get in foal but I wonder if they would bring her back to the races if she is unable to conceive. What a lovely horse she is to watch run.

[EquineAnne]

Your info is correct, as it stands.

However, this isn't a really big deal, unless this happens again. I'm sure Z has been palped and cultured before being bred, and I doubt that there was a serious cause for concern or she would have been fllushed, treated, biopsied etc. already.

For those who are not into breeding, this sort of early loss is common and while disappointing, of itself is no reason for alarm, much less the wringing of hands.

The fetus in a newly pregnant mare is tiny, it's not yet a foal, and it does not permanently attach to the uterine wall for several weeks. It literally travels all around the inside of the uterus, sensitizing it and getting it biochemically ready. Somewhere between day 35 and day 42 it usually attaches to the uterine wall and establishes a blood supply...that's why the ultrasounds after the first month are key. If something isn't quite right, the the fetus doesn't attach and is passed out. It's so little, you wouldn't even know it had happened - you know by its absence on the ultrasound after the fact.

I never used to get excited about a new pregnancy, especially with a maiden, until after they were 48-60 days in foal. Although they can still abort (they really don't "absorb") later in the term, if you get to the 2 month mark and they're still in foal you're usually good. We typically bred 25-35 outside mares a year, plus our own. There were always a couple that caught and lost, and had to be re-bred on second cycle. Most went on to conceive without problems in future. Veterinary medicine is even better now than it was 25-20 years ago too.

Conceiving but failing to carry later in the pregnancy is a much bigger concern, often harder to fix. Since Z is a maiden it's unlikely she has inflammation or scar tissue to cause her problems.

I'm sure Lane's End will bring all that modern reproductive science can bear to keep her in foal should she catch next time. They've probably already given her a shot to cycle her in early. Z conceived so easily on her first cover, I wouldn't be worried yet.

WOW -- Thank you VERY much for this information.

[GinTalking]

I had the same situation the last time I bred my mare. She was in foal ... and then she wasn't. She was rebred and delivered a healthy foal.

[Slewfan2]

Azeri was retired at 6 and bred the following spring (at 7) to Storm Cat. But she didn't conceive that spring - her first foal (Take Control) was a result of a breeding to AP Indy the year after that.

ETA:
Zenyatta WILL be bred again this spring, per the Blood Horse (quote from Lane's End)
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62178/zenyatta-loses-foal-will-be-bred-again?utm_source=twitter

That's good news- boy, I hope it takes. Is there a point after which a mare is generally safe from losing her foal?

[regret15]

A sad event---but this happens. Keeping fingers crossed that all goes well the next time.

[gravano]

Breeding question:
So I'm guessing there's no consolation on stud fee when something like this happens?

[gravano]

Thanks!

[Secretariat Forever]

Sad news! I hope nothing is wrong and it was just one of those "it happens" times!

[PJMIII]

Very sad news. I wish her well next time.

[Play The King]

Very sad news and hugs out to all of Z's team at their loss. Glad to hear the Queen is okay though!!

Jenn

[Blue Jeans]

Interesting article on the subject:

http://www.paulickreport.com/features/the-breeders-cup-forum/the-breeders-cup-forum-early-embryonic-loss/

Best wishes to Zenyatta.

[Man o' Taz]

Per DRF, they are going to breed her again to Bernardini next week. Let's all hope for the best.

Yep -- keep her in our thoughts...

[PJMIII]

Zenyatta Receives William H. May Award

Zenyatta, 2010’s Horse of the Year, was honored with the 2011 William H. May Award by the Association of Racing Commissioners International. She was recognized by 2010-2011 RCI chairman Dan Hartman of the Colorado Racing Commission during a ceremony at the 77th Annual Conference on Racing and Wagering Security at Le Pavillon Hotel in New Orleans March 23-26.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62235/zenyatta-receives-william-h-may-award

[regret15]

Happy Birthday Sweet Girl!
Love from Arkansas!

[Blue Jeans]

And a very Happy 7th Birthday to Zenyatta! :dance::party::hug:

From the state of Georgia!

Also b'day wishes to Win Willy and Dynaformer!

[Codysmom55]

Happy Birthday, Zenyatta.

From Louisiana/Texas:cheer2:

[Native Diver]

Here's hoping you get the whole banana on your birthday and that it's fit for a Queen! Happiest Birthday wishes to Zenyatta!

Love from Mississippi:high5:

[Diver52]

California loves you too, Babe--but you knew that! Hope your birthday wishes come true.:)

[Retrospectiv]

Here's hoping you get the whole banana on your birthday and that it's fit for a Queen!

I think she's scheduled to get that on Monday :becky:

(Sorry....couldn't resist :evil: )

[Diver52]

I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere, but I found it very interesting. I assume that at big stud farms like Lane's End, the mares are housed far away from the stallions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9440000/9440222.stm

[Majella from Ireland]

I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere, but I found it very interesting. I assume that at big stud farms like Lane's End, the mares are housed far away from the stallions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9440000/9440222.stm

Very interesting. And happy birthday to Zen! :)

[Diver52]

Re the article I linked to above--could a teaser stallion's presence in the mare barn trigger such a response? I'd hate to think that Zen lost her foal because she was worried that Capone would be mad!

[Minersmarq]

I think she's scheduled to get that on Monday :becky:

(Sorry....couldn't resist :evil: )
Trust me, Bernie's packin' way more than a banana.....

[Native Diver]

Trust me, Bernie's packin' way more than a banana.....
:scared:

[Retrospectiv]

Trust me, Bernie's packin' way more than a banana.....

:caked:
<Snorts>
Was wondering when you'd wander by this thread.

[Minersmarq]

:caked:
<Snorts>
Was wondering when you'd wander by this thread.
*cough*Blame*cough cough*:evil:

[BigCountry]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350452390743

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350452391053

[breezing]

*cough*Blame*cough cough*:evil:

:bored:

[Citation07]

All about Z's birthday celebration: http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-219

Be sure to check out that last picture, of Zenyatta eating the carrot. Cute!

[islandgirl45]

All about Z's birthday celebration: http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-219

Be sure to check out that last picture, of Zenyatta eating the carrot. Cute!

The birthday card comments are cute, too. "Loves children.":)

[nikita]

More pictures of Zenyatta's birthday party: http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/throughthelens/archive/2011/04/07/happy-birthday-queen-z.aspx

[stark]

http://ntrastore.stores.yahoo.net/zeco.html

[EquineAnne]

More pictures of Zenyatta's birthday party: http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/throughthelens/archive/2011/04/07/happy-birthday-queen-z.aspx

Life is Sweet's foal is so adorable!

[drjohnh]

http://ntrastore.stores.yahoo.net/zeco.html

ordered the purple shirt, thanks

[Squeaky]

Was our girl bred this week as planned?

[longestshot]

Not sure if this was mentioned anywhere, but Zenyatta made the Best of America list in the May's Reader's Digest. She is under the header of Best Catch. Whimsical bit about all her credentials that will make her a prize for any champion Stallions -they did have an update that she was to be bred to Bernardini at the end. A beautiful picture of her on the page.

[Codysmom55]

Not sure if this was mentioned anywhere, but Zenyatta made the Best of America list in the May's Reader's Digest. She is under the header of Best Catch. Whimsical bit about all her credentials that will make her a prize for any champion Stallions -they did have an update that she was to be bred to Bernardini at the end. A beautiful picture of her on the page.

Thanks for this information.

[firehorse]

And El Vino wins again!!

[JT Dancer]

And El Vino wins again!!

I was definately cheering him home today! He's really coming into his own; hope things keep going well for him at Hollywood:becky:

[firehorse]

I was definately cheering him home today! He's really coming into his own; hope things keep going well for him at Hollywood:becky:

Yes, it was a lot of fun! It's great to see him do well, looks like he figured out he gets to win (as long as Z's not around)! He's got one on dirt and now one on grass. :)

Anyone who missed it can catch it at bloodhorse.com

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/USA/SA/2011/4/17/8/race-8

[Diver52]

Redboard alert--I had him! (To show, I didn't have THAT much faith.) When we visited Zenyatta he was so cute, acting as if he was saying "Hey, look at me! Take MY picture!"

[The Tin Man]

Redboard alert--I had him! (To show, I didn't have THAT much faith.) When we visited Zenyatta he was so cute, acting as if he was saying "Hey, look at me! Take MY picture!"

Yeah ... Money was tight this last weekend, but I was pimping him to everyone around me pre-race ...

Once he lined up at the top of the stretch, I knew he had it in the bag!! He's one helluva a closer ...

I told John Shirreffs afterward that I was the leader of the El Vino fan club ... He said yeah ... El Vino was like "Where is she? Where is she?" when he was going through his stretch drive.

Fear of her coming is sure serving him well ... And his Beyers have been great too!

He certainly learned how to close from being her sparring partner.

He wasn't up for claim any more, he moved up in class and switched surfaces for this race. This was a very solid field too ...

Looking forward to his continued progression I hope.

Per John ... They'd like a Allowance race for him next, but he's not sure if they can get it as they're very hard to fill at his level.

He was VERY jazzed about everything ... I was cheeing him on hard down the stretch run, telling everyone as soon a he leveled out that he was gonna get it!!

I love this guy ... He's gorgeous and I love, love, love those deep closers ...

If there is anyone here who hasn't see his last 3 races, do yourself favor and watch them on CalRacing ... They're very exciting and extremely impressive!

Here are the pics I got of him from yesterday ... He's a fantastic poser too. Every time he gives me great shots. And Yesterday, he was doing the Zenyatta ...Stop, stare and pose thing in the paddock BIG time!

I asked John about seeing El Vino at the barn, but evidently El Vino's temperment is a bit more rambunctious than Zenny's. He said he's liable to bite you. :evil:

As an aside, John and Frank said that we should come by the barn and see Zenyatta's stall ... Evidently they have some kind of a shrine or something to her I guess ... I hope to be going soon. I'll post pics when I do. Likely in the next couple of weeks.

Go El Vino!!! I wish I'd have had money yesterday, I wanted to bet him across the board. That would have been a nice strike. I'm betting no double digit odds for him next time out. :(

[The Tin Man]

Yes, it was a lot of fun! It's great to see him do well, looks like he figured out he gets to win (as long as Z's not around)! He's got one on dirt and now one on grass. :)

Anyone who missed it can catch it at bloodhorse.com

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/USA/SA/2011/4/17/8/race-8

He only had 1 race before having to shelve his career for Zenny. (I'm sure you know that Firehorse, Just putting that out there for those who may not have. ;) )

He's now 4-2-1-0 ... Pretty darn nice! And he's a BIG boy too! Very visually striking!

I love this story! :becky:

Here's his Pedigree Query ... http://www.pedigreequery.com/el+vino3

[Ezariah]

Pictures of her stall are on the blog that Dottie does - and elsewhere, like Facebook. I'm surprised you haven't seen them. I would have bet you were a frequent visitor...if not a daily one. People go see her stall all the time.


As an aside, John and Frank said that we should come by the barn and see Zenyatta's stall ... Evidently they have some kind of a shrine or something to her I guess ... I hope to be going soon. I'll post pics when I do. Likely in the next couple of weeks.

[The Tin Man]

Pictures of her stall are on the blog that Dottie does - and elsewhere, like Facebook. I'm surprised you haven't seen them. I would have bet you were a frequent visitor...if not a daily one. People go see her stall all the time.

Nah ... I'm not much of a Facebook guy ... :)

[Ezariah]

You don't have to be as it's at www.zenyatta.com (http://www.zenyatta.com). They do post the updates on FB as well, but it's linked to her website. Go there and you'll find the pics of her stall.


Nah ... I'm not much of a Facebook guy ... :)

[The Tin Man]

Ahhhhhh ... The entry for Zenyatta's site today is all about El Vino ... Nice to see they're giving him some air time now, being that he sacrificed SO much and is doing SO well ... :)

http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-229

[Harrison Bergeron]

Ahhhhhh ... The entry for Zenyatta's site today is all about El Vino ... Nice to see they're giving him some air time now, being that he sacrificed SO much and is doing SO well ... :)

http://www.zenyatta.com/news/diary-post-229

El Vino is doing very well. Hopefully he will continue to improve. I'm sure naysayers will say he's just an allowance horse, but he's probably earned more in his first 4 starts than most horses. Just for comparison, the great Nicanor at this point in his career had only earned $37,500.

But Tinny, just what did he sacrifice?

[GinTalking]

I suppose I should wash my mouth out with soap, but I can't believe so many people would be interested in seeing "a stall". I mean, it's a stall. They really don't vary that much from track to track.

Now if the horse is still in it, that's another story .... or if we were in year 2025, then I could see someone saying, "hey guess what, that's where Zenyatta used to live".

I think it's nice to put up plaques where famous horses have lived ... but then the barn is torn down and with it goes all the history so that's kind of depressing. That's what happened to Concern's barn at Pimlico. The only horse to have trained in Maryland who won the Classic and a couple of years later, a bulldozer came in and flattened the barn. That's a little sad.

It's interesting to see how many people are publishing books (using Blurb) about Zenyatta and I guess that's easy to do when you live in an area where the horse lives and runs. I can't read what they've written, but it's nice that people took the time to put something out there. Not sure how you buy them (thru Blurb, I think), but I've seen two on Facebook in the last couple of days.

[Harrison Bergeron]

Not sure how you buy them (thru Blurb, I think), but I've seen two on Facebook in the last couple of days.

Correct.
Example: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1877933

$24.95 + shipping for a 34 (with a bit of dead space) page softbound "picture book".

Good thing is, you can "read" the whole book in a few minutes for free.

On Demand publishing is a great idea, but pricey. I'm not sure what the author makes, or how it compares with "real" publishing, but the risks are minimized.

I have a friend who did this with a limited appeal golf book. He's by no means getting rich,but is enjoying getting his story out.

[Man o' Taz]

Was our girl bred this week as planned?

I was wondering the same thing... :)

[The Tin Man]

El Vino is doing very well. Hopefully he will continue to improve. I'm sure naysayers will say he's just an allowance horse, but he's probably earned more in his first 4 starts than most horses. Just for comparison, the great Nicanor at this point in his career had only earned $37,500.

But Tinny, just what did he sacrifice?

His 4 year old season ... Normally a very important year for most race horses.

I'm sure in that year, he learned much though ... as he got smoked in his only start prior to being a training buddy.

But being that he'd only had one prior start and he's doing SO well now ... It makes one wonder if he'd have been ready to roll like this sooner.

Bottom line ... I'm happy he's getting his chance to shine now and that he's making the most of it. I hope he continues to impress and that the way he's been able to close is the norm rather than an aberrant hot streak.

[Harrison Bergeron]

His 4 year old season ... Normally a very important year for most race horses.

I'm sure in that year, he learned much though ... as he got smoked in his only start prior to being a training buddy.

But being that he'd only had one prior start and he's doing SO well now ... It makes one wonder if he'd have been ready to roll like this sooner.

Bottom line ... I'm happy he's getting his chance to shine now and that he's making the most of it. I hope he continues to impress and that the way he's been able to close is the norm rather than an aberrant hot streak.

I know he's doing SO well now. He ran like a tomato can in his first race (16 lengths back), then was off for almost 10 months.

I'll ask again: Just what did he sacrifice?

[My Flag]

I was wondering the same thing... :)

In the WC interview after El Vino's win, Dottie says they're planning on keeping things a little more private for now, so no breeding/pregnancy updates until/unless Z gets farther along.

[The Tin Man]

I know he's doing SO well now. He ran like a tomato can in his first race (16 lengths back), then was off for almost 10 months.

I'll ask again: Just what did he sacrifice?

I can't put it any more clearly than I did HB ... So I've gotta be guessing you don't agree that missing his 4 year old season was a sacrifice ... And that's cool ... We disagree then.

[Harrison Bergeron]

I can't put it any more clearly than I did HB ... So I've gotta be guessing you don't agree that missing his 4 year old season was a sacrifice ... And that's cool ... We disagree then.

He was out, probably for a reason. Perhaps he wasn't mature enough. Perhaps he wasn't trained enough.
I wouldn't call it a sacrifice. Probably an INVESTMENT.

Time, training, conditioning, letting him mature, etc for 10 months, then in 2011 reaping the rewards: 3-2-1-0

Many horses haven't done well early.

[Squeaky]

Still waiting for definitive confirmation that Z was rebred and when they will ultrasound her again to confirm in foal?

[The Tin Man]

He was out, probably for a reason. Perhaps he wasn't mature enough. Perhaps he wasn't trained enough.
I wouldn't call it a sacrifice. Probably an INVESTMENT.

Time, training, conditioning, letting him mature, etc for 10 months, then in 2011 reaping the rewards: 3-2-1-0

Many horses haven't done well early.

OK ... Well when I was talking with Sherriffs on Sunday, he was talking about the sacrifice El Vino had made too ... But I'm sure you'd know better about his horse than he would right? ;)

Not saying he'd have been ready to fire like this directly off of his 1st race, but almost undoubtedly he didn't need a year off in between races.

I'm sure being her whipping boy definitely helped him out though. He mimics her style in many ways thus far ... Including his posing. He doesn't paw though ... But he stops and stares and strikes the pose in the paddock ... And his winner's circle poses are indentical. He was watching and learning and taking notes. But ... Per John ... He's NO social butterfly like she is. No petting and posing with him any time soon. ;)

Make no mistake about it ... His delayed absence was to continue being her training buddy ... Until she was done ... The Moss' own El Vino too.

[The Tin Man]

Bottom line HB ... I'm happy that El Vino is now getting his chance and capitalizing on it ... Who would have ever thought that Zenny's training buddy would be generating a diatribe of his OWN track prowess ... Pretty damn cool! :)

[Harrison Bergeron]

OK ... Well when I was talking with Sherriffs on Sunday, he was talking about the sacrifice El Vino had made too ... But I'm sure you'd know better about his horse than he would right? ;)

Not saying he'd have been ready to fire like this off of his 1st race, but almost undoubtedly he didn't need a year off in between races.

Make no mistake about it ... His delayed absence was to continue being her training buddy ... Until she was done ... The Moss' own El Vino too.

I'm so glad we have such a happy insider here. Did you mention your inside information previously? If so, sorry I missed it.

You and Southieboy should set up an information service!

I'm also aware of who owns El Vino, but thanks.

[The Tin Man]

I'm so glad we have such a happy insider here. Did you mention your inside information previously? If so, sorry I missed it.

You and Southieboy should set up an information service!

Yes I did ... Earlier in this thread ...

I talked to him for 5 to 10 minutes after El Vino's race Sunday(I didn't mention the length of my discussion tough) ... ;)

[The Tin Man]

I'm also aware of who owns El Vino, but thanks.

You're welcome buddy! ;)

Here's to hoping he continues to shine ...

[scrappyt]

Still waiting for definitive confirmation that Z was rebred and when they will ultrasound her again to confirm in foal?

sounds like they are going to keep it quiet this time, to avoid what happened last time...

[Harrison Bergeron]

Yes I did ... Earlier in this thread ...

I talked to him for 5 to 10 minutes after El Vino's race Sunday(I didn't mention the length of my discussion tough) ... ;)

Ah, I haven't read this thread word for word, so I missed it. My mistake.

I wonder if El Vino had won his first race if he would have been sacrificed. We'll never know.

All's well that ends well. I hope he has a swell career and is successful in his upcoming endeavors!

[The Tin Man]

Ah, I haven't read this thread word for word, so I missed it. My mistake.

I wonder if El Vino had won his first race if he would have been sacrificed. We'll never know.

All's well that ends well. I hope he has a swell career and is successful in his upcoming endeavors!

Yeah ... Who knows? He probably needed a little more seasoning.

As we stand here now, biding his time sure seems to be paying off. Upward and onward for this interesting pony I hope! :becky:

Not sure if you saw this HB ... But Sherriffs told me that they'd like an allowance race for him next, but he said it's hard to get one filled at his current level ... Something to do with "winners of 2 races" ...

So we'll see ... But that's the goal ... An allowance race next ... I didn't ask synth or turf ... I'll check on that this weekend and post it here.

[islandgirl45]

El Vino is doing very well. Hopefully he will continue to improve. I'm sure naysayers will say he's just an allowance horse, but he's probably earned more in his first 4 starts than most horses. Just for comparison, the great Nicanor at this point in his career had only earned $37,500.

But Tinny, just what did he sacrifice?

His horsehood?:) I think they gelded him right after Z retired.

[My Flag]

Still waiting for definitive confirmation that Z was rebred and when they will ultrasound her again to confirm in foal?

As I mentioned earlier...


In the WC interview after El Vino's win, Dottie says they're planning on keeping things a little more private for now, so no breeding/pregnancy updates until/unless Z gets farther along.

[second_glance]

As per the BC FB page, the Zenyatta segment will re-air on 60 Minutes Sunday night, with an update.