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Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:07 pm

I've already sent emails to my Congressman and the 2 Sens from my state. I agree, we must block slaughter at all costs.
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:10 pm

BlindLucky wrote:
Ziggypop wrote:The owner of Mine That Bird, testified for the pro horse slaughter group in NM. I imagine he has no qualms about sending Mine That Bird to the killer line, when the horse is forgotten.

Here is an article about his lack of ethics.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more- ... e-1.408929
Can you provide some details? I know that Mark Allen testified for the pro horse slaughter group--Mark Allen the Republican senator from OK. However, the Mark Allen who owns Mine That Bird has publicly stated he is against slaughter--not the same person as Senator Mark Allen. Has he changed his stance?

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3083201.shtml

Mark Allen, owner of the Kentucky Derby winning horse ‘Mine that Bird’ weighed in.

"I'm not for slaughtering horses," said Allen.

He won’t be taking his horses to slaughter.

"None of my horses will be put down. If they’re just running them in there for good meat, I'm not for it," said Allen.
Yes, but his partner in Mine That Bird is a vet named Leonard Bloch, I believe, and he recently testified, for horse slaughter at the environmental hearing in NM.
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:09 pm

Ziggypop wrote:Yes, but his partner in Mine That Bird is a vet named Leonard Bloch, I believe, and he recently testified, for horse slaughter at the environmental hearing in NM.
Ok, all I knew about that guy is that he's a well-known equine vet. But Mark Allen is not pro-slaughter, and that's who the original link you posted was about. Just wanted to clarify!
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Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:56 am

Ballerina wrote:If you agree that horse slaughter should not be a business in the U.S.A. and that U.S.A. horses should not be shipped to other countries to be slaughtered, here is how you can help -

http://www.capwiz.com/aspca/issues/aler ... 06&type=CO

Thank you for any support you can give in the effort to do away with the egregious practice of horse slaughter. It's never been humane, and it never will be.
Since a new conversation came up and this appeared on the previous page, I thought I would repost. It is so important that Washington hear from you on this issue.

Thanks.
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Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:32 pm

BlindLucky wrote:
Ziggypop wrote:Yes, but his partner in Mine That Bird is a vet named Leonard Bloch, I believe, and he recently testified, for horse slaughter at the environmental hearing in NM.
Ok, all I knew about that guy is that he's a well-known equine vet. But Mark Allen is not pro-slaughter, and that's who the original link you posted was about. Just wanted to clarify!
Blach's testimony begins on p. 40; it seems mostly very technical, clinical. He's also completely wrong about how long some drugs remain in a horse's body.

http://equinewelfarealliance.org/upload ... meat_1.PDF
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Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:42 pm

The Obama administration got closer in its mission to restore the U.S. horse slaughter industry when a federal appeals court lifted a ban paving the way for MO and NM plants to resume operations. U.S. plants can now export horsemeat to foreign countries for human consumption.
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Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:57 pm

New Mexico plant plans to open Jan. 1, but the state's attorney general will sue to stop it.
http://horsetalk.co.nz/2013/12/20/slaug ... z2nxMW8hhg
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Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:05 pm

The suit did get filed today, which is good, especially with the holidays coming up.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-b ... slaughter/
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"Our main contract is horses going to Belgium, and then we've got contracts from Russia and China. I've got a big solid contract in China. There's no way this plant could slaughter enough horses to supply all those contracts," De Los Santos said.

The first horsemeat will be shipped to Belgium. De Los Santos said under the current contract, he would make $350 per horse.

"Once we get up to full speed, we're going to do 100-120 a day," he said.


http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S325 ... r8pb_RDvvp
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:03 pm

On a 5-day work week, that'd be over 30,000 horses. And upwards of $10 million.
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Catalina wrote:On a 5-day work week, that'd be over 30,000 horses. And upwards of $10 million.
Yeah. I think there's some smoke-blowing going on there. He also seems to say he has contracts he can't fill. But perhaps he's misquoted.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:19 pm

Maybe and maybe not. $350 per horse would likely be the gross they would get paid, minus presumably taxes and operating cost. And they probably would not have the kill line running 5 days a week, but less. I don't remember how that used to work back when Beltex and Cavel were around.

Gah... I do so NOT want this back.
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:24 pm

I don't have any other info on this yet -- but saw a bulletin that the New Mexico Attorney General has obtained a Temporary Restraining Order against the plant planning to begin slaughter on Jan. 1.
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second_glance wrote:I don't have any other info on this yet -- but saw a bulletin that the New Mexico Attorney General has obtained a Temporary Restraining Order against the plant planning to begin slaughter on Jan. 1.
http://www.abqjournal.com/328789/news/h ... -hold.html
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Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:22 pm

One thing that occurs to me (and has me wondering): Is De los Santos with his past history of violations elected to be the fall guy, to give the outfit in Missouri the opportunity to fly below the public radar and get approved?
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Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:41 am

Message from John Holland/Equine Welfare Alliance

The Year in Review

Happy New Year to one and all!

Dear Friends and EWA Members,
I am constantly reminded of the Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times!" That certainly describes the past year.

As we enter a New Year, a time which should be one of peace and reflection, we find ourselves in a maelstrom of alarm calls over the imminent opening of the horse slaughter plants. But things are seldom as they seem, and virtually never as the AP reports them. So allow me to give my perspective.

The stories invariably quote Attorney A. Blair Dunn as saying the houses are about to open. First it was to be before Christmas, and this week it is January 1st, or January 15th or some other date.

The fact is, that the main reporter on these stories is usually AP's Geri Clausing, the very same reporter who insisted on sighting the GAO report long after we had shown her evidence that it was fraudulent. She also repeated claims last summer that the plants would be opening within a week. So remember what Mark Twain said, "If you don't read the newspapers, you are uninformed. If you do read them, then you are misinformed."

I cannot assign a motive to the fact that Geri appears to print anything Dunn says without the least bit of fact checking, but she does. For example, when repeating his promise to open before Christmas, she should at very least have asked him how he planned to do this when he will not have a waste water discharge permit until at least February at best. There may be an answer, but the question needed to be asked.

Likewise, another local reporter repeated de los Santos' claim to have a contract to supply horse meat to a Belgium country when Sanco (the EU food safety agency) has repeatedly confirmed that meat produced in the US and inspected by the USDA would not be eligible for importation into the EU because the USDA does not have an EU approved program for inspection.

So, what is really going on?

I can only speculate at the answer to that question, but here is my opinion. I believe that Dunn realizes that their dream slaughter plant is fading, and he is focusing instead on establishing damages the proposed operation has suffered as a result of the delays caused by litigation. Remember, FRER/HSUS had to post a bond to continue their injunction that kept the plant closed. Dunn wants that bond money, and to get it he will have to prove damages.

Why do I believe that is the game afoot? In a recent article, de los Santos laid out the number of employees he was hiring, the contracts he had, and most tellingly of all his profit margin ($350/horse). I have been the CEO of one company and served on the board of another, and this kind of forward looking information is highly sensitive in the corporate world. A privately held company would never disclose such information without a good reason.

Knowing this kind of thing would allow one's customers to know exactly how much they could squeeze the company in pricing negotiations, and it would allow competitors to understand the company's weaknesses and vulnerability. It would also tell competitors where to send their own sales forces.

Yesterday there was an article quoting Dunn as saying that the New Mexico Attorney General's suit would be a waste of tax payer money because they would have to pay the company over $400,000 a month in damages.

So all of this is, in my opinion, an attempt to hype supposed damages and recoup some of their investment from the opposing groups. Of course, I must admit that I also recall the maxim "Never attribute to deviousness that which is adequately explained by stupidity." With Dunn and de los Santos, that is certainly a possibility.

Most recently, an aide has claimed that a "special committee" (presumably a subcommittee of the agricultural budget conference committee) was planning to take the defunding language out of the Agriculture budget. Since this happened to us in 2011, it sounded completely in keeping with the way things have gone in the past.

However, this time, the Agriculture Appropriations committees in the House and Senate have both passed budgets with the defunding language, and both passed by a super majority.

Conference committees have taken almost unlimited powers in the past. For example it was a conference committee that inserted the Burns "Three Strikes" language into the Interior Budget, and another one that brought us the "Monsanto Protection Act", neither of which existed before the budgets went to conference.

This is all very confusing since we are now dealing with an Omnibus budget which replaces all of the individual agency budgets. I can't claim to know how everything will work as far as reconciliation, but I am assured that we are OK this time.

One way or the other, I believe we are near the end of horse slaughter. There are big things in the wings for the New Year and we have never had such powerful and determined allies in high places. So, without taking anything for granted, we at the EWA are already planning for the challenges in a post slaughter country.

I want to close by saying that it has been a great pleasure working with all of you. Your selfless dedication to the plight of our blessed equines has continued to be my personal inspiration.

Happy New Year,
John Holland
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Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:51 pm

That sounds hopeful at least, but let me mention in passing, that EU rules would apply only to Belgium, but not to Russia or China.
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Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:25 pm

Judge today extended the TRO against the opening of the New Mexico plant. Story just breaking; don't know yet how long the extension runs.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S326 ... sc4X_RDvvp
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second_glance wrote:Judge today extended the TRO against the opening of the New Mexico plant. Story just breaking; don't know yet how long the extension runs.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S326 ... sc4X_RDvvp
10-day extension.

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/01/03 ... hter-case/
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Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:22 pm

From their FB page:

Front Range Equine Rescue is pleased to announce that our efforts in Missouri have resulted in a win for the horses. Rains Natural Meats has withdrawn its case challenging the MO Dept. of Natural Resources' denial of their application for horse slaughter (they received a water permit which excluded horse slaughter). In response to Rains' action against the DNR, Front Range intervened in the case and, along with the DNR filed to dismiss Rains' case. On December 31, Rains filed to have its claims dismissed, effectively admitting defeat.

No horse slaughter in MO for now!
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