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Re: Justify

Postby Delamont » Wed May 16, 2018 3:19 pm

Exactly! Very cool.
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Re: Justify

Postby MySaladDays » Wed May 16, 2018 3:33 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Great photos, MSD, and the hoof article was really interesting and informative.


Truly, the unsung heroes of equine sports, the blacksmiths and hi tech shoers.....amazing artistry, really.
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Re: Justify

Postby Treve » Wed May 16, 2018 3:43 pm

One thing about Justify that is interesting is for as wide a span he might have he doesn't seem to have a lot of hind engagement, relatively speaking. And yet seeing how good he is now, it terrifies me to think what he could be like when he figures out how to reach with his hind and propel himself to the maximum from the back.
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Re: Justify

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Wed May 16, 2018 3:43 pm

IIRC, it was a farrier who greatly contributed to 'Chrome's 2014 winning streak, when he applied glue-on shoes to the colt's not-hard-as-steel hooves. ;)
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Re: Justify

Postby Treve » Wed May 16, 2018 4:00 pm

Well Big Brown's feet were a hot mess. I remember as an equestrian I somewhat cringed at the idea of him winning the TC cause I was concerned about him siring 100s of crap-footed future OTTBs :lol:
It was amazing really how well his feet held together through that TC campaign in spite of practically having to rebuild his hoof almost entirely from scratch.
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Re: Justify

Postby Ballerina » Wed May 16, 2018 4:12 pm

Treve wrote:Well Big Brown's feet were a hot mess. I remember as an equestrian I somewhat cringed at the idea of him winning the TC cause I was concerned about him siring 100s of crap-footed future OTTBs :lol:
It was amazing really how well his feet held together through that TC campaign in spite of practically having to rebuild his hoof almost entirely from scratch.


I love this horse with a passion, but knowing his foot problem and that of his sire, I cringe at those who are brave/stupid enough to have bred to him. I think Dortmund also had hoof problems. What a stinkin' shame. But for the foot problem, I can only guess how good Big Brown would have been.
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Re: Justify

Postby Treve » Wed May 16, 2018 4:34 pm

Ballerina wrote:
Treve wrote:Well Big Brown's feet were a hot mess. I remember as an equestrian I somewhat cringed at the idea of him winning the TC cause I was concerned about him siring 100s of crap-footed future OTTBs :lol:
It was amazing really how well his feet held together through that TC campaign in spite of practically having to rebuild his hoof almost entirely from scratch.


I love this horse with a passion, but knowing his foot problem and that of his sire, I cringe at those who are brave/stupid enough to have bred to him. I think Dortmund also had hoof problems. What a stinkin' shame. But for the foot problem, I can only guess how good Big Brown would have been.


gotta have a mare who can go barefoot, with a pedigree behind her of horses who can go barefoot if you want to take the gamble I guess.
Always admired Sheila Varian's philosophy on this, she believed in the old tenet "no hoof no horse" till she died and it was one of the golden rules of her arabian breeding program for decades. If a stud or a mare couldn't work barefoot, even on her dry, rocky California property, then she didn't breed them.
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Re: Justify

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:40 pm

Big Brown may have been happiest running on the grass, which could have been kinder to his feet. I remember his return after the post-TC layoff winning a turf stakes (written for him at Monmouth, IIRC) and he just bounded over the grass running down the stretch. If ever a horse 'ran happy,' it was BB in that race. :D
He shuttled to Australia for a year or more, and I wonder how his offspring did being strictly grass horses?
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Re: Justify

Postby Ballerina » Wed May 16, 2018 4:49 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Big Brown may have been happiest running on the grass, which could have been kinder to his feet. I remember his return after the post-TC layoff winning a turf stakes (written for him at Monmouth, IIRC) and he just bounded over the grass running down the stretch. If ever a horse 'ran happy,' it was BB in that race. :D
He shuttled to Australia for a year or more, and I wonder how his offspring did being strictly grass horses?


The original intent was to run him on the turf. His first race was on turf, and he ran away with it. His 2nd race was supposed to be on turf, but it was switched to dirt. He did so well, it was like a CIGAR moment.
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Re: Justify

Postby stark » Wed May 16, 2018 8:04 pm

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Justify had his left hind shoe three-quartered following the Derby to address the irritation there but already he has been re-shod in a conventional shoe for the Preakness on Saturday, per Baffert.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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