Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby WaquoitNBroadBrush » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:37 pm

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/bu ... _downs_bid

The horsemen looking to lease Suffolk for racing have brought back a familiar name as the architect of their plan -- Lou Raffetto, who was so instrumental in Jim Moseley's revival of the track in 1992.
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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby WarBiscuit » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:01 pm

Interesting. If I had to place a bet right now, I'd say they will be racing at Suffolk again...

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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby dustino140 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:01 pm

Why continue to try to revive something that has proven to not be economically viable? For the sake of embracing and preserving its decadent past? Because the racing product they've put out in the last decade is terrible and the fans in Boston have proven they won't give the races a second glance. There's no point in reviving something that isn't worth saving and the only reasons anyone seems to want to save Suffolk are job loss and history. The job loss sucks and you hate to see that happen. I get that. But bringing back a C level track like this, IMO, is detrimental to the industry, which is begging to be downsized to get back on track. Foal crops are down, wagering is stagnant...for the good of horse racing I think it may be time to trim the fat to preserve the product. Bring it back in 2015 and a year from now we'll be having the same conversation.
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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby WarBiscuit » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:48 pm

WarBiscuit wrote:Interesting. If I had to place a bet right now, I'd say they will be racing at Suffolk again...

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I win the bet. We'll have a million persons colony on Mars before Suffolk Downs dies.

www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/article ... ng-in-2018


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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby Tessablue » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:21 pm

Nah, it's dead after 2018. Pains me to say it but there's not much hope left and everyone knows it. Still, I'm so glad they were able to put together these festivals before it dies for good. Weather was terrible on Saturday but it was worth it to stand in the rain and cheer for Chaotic Bull along with his owner/trainer and a bunch of railbirds. Next year is going to be tough.

And I'm glad that article makes mention of their safety record... Suffolk always had one of the lowest injury rates in the country and they deserve a lot of credit for putting together eight absolutely flawless days of racing this year.
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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby WaquoitNBroadBrush » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:41 pm

I made it up there for two of the racing days this year, in July and early September. Had a great time both days.

I kind of wish they'd just close the place down after that final Sunday of live racing next year, whenever it is, and send the old joint off in style, with good racing and a big crowd. But they'll be licensed to simulcast through the end of the calendar year, so that most likely means a slow winding down until the doors close sometime on New Year's Eve, with only the few hundred nighttime simulcast regulars rattling around the clubhouse. Of course, Chip Tuttle is saying they'd like to get Massachusetts' law changed so they can continue to offer simulcasting after 2018, either in a section of the old building or some off-track structure, but the lawmakers have been unfriendly to the idea of allowing betting anywhere but a racetrack that has live dates, so that might not be easy to accomplish.

Then again, I noticed that ATMs are back in the building after a long absence, so the Legislature must have changed that law -- probably at the behest of Steve Wynn and MGM, facing the prospect of casinos with no ATMs if the law (no ATMs where there's gambling, except for Lottery locations in stores and restaurants) didn't change.
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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby WarBiscuit » Wed May 23, 2018 11:43 am

Looks like a glimmer of hope for New England racing?

www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/article ... airgrounds


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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby WaquoitNBroadBrush » Wed May 23, 2018 7:44 pm

Of course, this has little to do with horse racing. The Suffolk people want to still be relevant should the state legislature pass sports gambling legislation. The problem, of course, is whether sports betting will be available to them under the same rules that simulcasting now is -- that is, a certain number of live races must be held on-site. That will be a big challenge if the track is plowed under at this time next year and construction of condos, hotels or Amazon headquarters has begun. Will running races at the other end of the state and piping them back to East Boston be acceptable? Time will tell. Remember, this is Massachusetts. As I've opined several times previous, for anything to go smoothly when it comes to horse racing would be very un-Massachusetts.
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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby Somnambulist » Wed May 23, 2018 10:08 pm

I honestly cannot believe the amount of people I know going to Monmouth this weekend. Mostly thinking because it's a spectacle. I hope they're prepared. I feel very apprehensive about what legalized sports betting will do to racing but I can only hope for good.
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Re: Suffolk Downs ... not dead yet?

Postby WaquoitNBroadBrush » Wed May 23, 2018 10:38 pm

Somnambulist wrote:I honestly cannot believe the amount of people I know going to Monmouth this weekend. Mostly thinking because it's a spectacle. I hope they're prepared. I feel very apprehensive about what legalized sports betting will do to racing but I can only hope for good.


Are they going to launch sports betting there this weekend? I can't find anything online confirming any start date?
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