Racing in Japan

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lurkey mclurker
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:32 pm

... I thought we used to have a thread, but couldn't find one using search? So I thought it might be useful to have a dedicated thread like the one for the UK. 8-)

ANYhoo... very excited for the Tenno Sho Autumn (G1) today!!! So many of my favorite runners I don't know who to root for. :mrgreen:

Soul Stirring
Kitasan Black
Real Steel
Satono Crown
Satono Aladdin
Staphanos
Makahiki
...too many possibilities!

Click on Tokyo race 11 - http://japanracing.jp/en/racing/result/

But I'll go with Mr Black & the Satono Bros :lol:
tachyon
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:00 pm

It's been raining steadily in Tokyo with a typhoon approaching.
The Tenno Sho Autumn today will be run on the turf labelled 'soft' for the first time since 1991 when the first place finisher Mejiro McQueen(JPN) was disqualified and demoted to last.

-- replay of the 1991 Tenno Sho Autumn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhC51BWwwO8

-- chart of the 1991 Tenno Sho Autumn
http://www.jbis.jp/race/result/19911027 ... 1504932591

I wonder if the horses who can race upfront will have good shots unless someone sets a killing pace.

I like:

Satono Crown
Neo Realism
Staphanos
Kitasan Black
Soul Stirring
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lurkey mclurker
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:40 pm

I wonder how some of them will handle the soft turf... looking forward to an excellent race! Only a few hours left to wait. 8-)
BaroqueAgain1
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:45 pm

IIRC, Kitasan Black is quite capable of going to the front and staying there.
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:20 pm

I watched the 1991 replay as I had not seen Mejiro McQueen actually race... I saw in the post-race inquiry that he came over a little bit, but surely not enough to be placed LAST??? The inside horse with the blaze came out at the same time and seemed to me to contribute far more to the pinch & pile-up (which was very scary, I'm glad nobody went down!), but it was Mejiro McQueen who was disqualified?? :o
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:13 am

I'm watching the races on TVG and, damm, the weather is bad. :shock:
Maybe that typhoon made landfall?
When Kiseki won the Japanese St. Leger, I thought the rain was so heavy that, IMHO, an American track might have held up its races. Japanese horses...and jockeys...are tough. :P And good swimmers.
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:07 am

After all the undercard races, with large fields tearing up huge clods out of the turf course, it may not be easy to find even ground to run on...that doesn't have a bunch of holes collecting water. :?
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:28 am

Holy crap Kitasan Black looks like he's in beast form in the paddock. WOW. :shock:
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:36 am

Satono Crown looks cranky... Real Steel all business. Soul Stirring up on her toes but not fractious.

Visibility is rather poor. :-p
lurkey mclurker
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:43 am

Neorealism looks good, not so sure Satono Crown wants to run today. Think I will go with Kitasan Black, Neorealism & Soul Stirring for my three.

And of course just want them all to come home safely.
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:48 am

Well, that was brutal, but Kitasan Black showed every bit of his class to hold off the 2nd horse, who I think was Satono Crown. His rider may have made the winning move by bringing KB up the rail, which everyone else was avoiding. The ground he saved may have made the difference.
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:51 am

omfg I can't believe it the Dubai Racing stream (which is abt 10 minutes delay) cut out JUST AS THEY WERE GOING TO THE GATE.

!@#$%$#@#$#@#$%$#@#$%$#$%!!!!!!

(I was already spoiled by twitter but I still wanted to SEE IT!!!!)

:( :( :( :(
tachyon
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:52 am

1st. Kitasan Black
2nd. Satono Crown
3rd. Rainbow Line

2016 HOTY Kitasan Black was always Kitasan Black!!
Yutaka Take gave him the best ride, too.
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Kitasan Balck became the second richest racehorse in the Japanese racing history following TM Opera O.

-- replay (Japanese)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vOj1aG5FA8
1st 7 Kitasan Black(JPN) [Black Tide(JPN) x Sugar Heart(JPN) by Sakura Bakushin O(JPN)] H5 58 02:08.3
2nd 2 Satono Crown(JPN) [Marju(IRE) x Jioconda(IRE) by Rossini(USA)] H5 58 02:08.3 NK
3rd 8 Rainbow Line(JPN) [Stay Gold(JPN) x Regenbogen(JPN) by French Deputy(USA)] C4 58 02:08.7 2 1/2
4th 4 Real Steel(JPN) H5 58 02:09.5 5
5th 15 Makahiki(JPN) C4 58 02:09.5 HD
6th 9 Soul Stirring(JPN) F3 54 02:09.7 1 1/2
7th 6 Decipher(JPN) H8 58 02:09.9 3/4
8th 1 Sakura Empereur(JPN) H6 58 02:10.2 2
9th 13 Greater London(JPN) H5 58 02:10.4 1 1/4
10th 12 Staphanos(JPN) H6 58 02:10.5 1/2
11th 5 Yamakatsu Ace(JPN) H5 58 02:10.8 2
12th 10 Mikki Rocket(JPN) C4 58 02:10.9 NK
13th 3 Neorealism(JPN) H6 58 02:12.0 7
14th 11 Lord Vent d'Or(JPN) C4 58 02:14.4 DS
15th 18 Sciacchetra(JPN) C4 58 02:15.1 4
16th 16 Cadenas(JPN) C3 56 02:15.8 4
17th 17 One and Only(JPN) H6 58 02:16.3 3
18th 14 Satono Aladdin(JPN) H6 58 02:16.9 3 1/2
lurkey mclurker
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:33 pm

Thanks for the replay, tachyon! Looks like both Yutaka Take & Mirco Demuro benefited from stalking up the rail... what a great finish! I think Mr Black knew *exactly* where the finish was. :lol:

Watching him on the trot back, with ears pricked & looking around, you could tell he knew he'd won. :mrgreen:

ETA: a gorgeous series of photographs here:

https://twitter.com/kiyo_makarios/statu ... 6392815618

ETA this too (via twitter):
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lurkey mclurker
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Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:48 pm

Posted today to Twitter... Mr Black was very, very fortunate to overcome some trouble at the start of the Tenno Sho. Gate malfunction, or did he break early & then get nearly hit by it? Either way, one lucky boy (two if you count Yutaka Take!)... :shock:

https://twitter.com/NW8626/status/924929757749198848
tachyon
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:30 pm

lurkey mclurker wrote:I watched the 1991 replay as I had not seen Mejiro McQueen actually race... I saw in the post-race inquiry that he came over a little bit, but surely not enough to be placed LAST??? The inside horse with the blaze came out at the same time and seemed to me to contribute far more to the pinch & pile-up (which was very scary, I'm glad nobody went down!), but it was Mejiro McQueen who was disqualified?? :o
Here's the patrol video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L27mhEErYLA

That was remembered by the Japanese fans as one of the most controversial decisions ever made by the JRA stewards.
Mejiro McQueen became the first horse in JRA history to be disqualified from the first place in G1 events.
Personally I don't disagree with the final decision in the 1991 Tenno Sho Autumn.
Yutaka Take could have been a bit more careful as he rushd into the first corner from the outside post especially riding at 2000m turf at Tokyo Course whose lead-up straight to the first corner was unusually short.

We may also conclude that it was rather JRA's fault who ran the important G1 at a course with such a risky setting.
After that incident in 1991, Tokyo Course has been renovated and its 2000m turf course now has a little bit longer lead-up before the first corner. But it remains a very difficult run for the jockeys.
Tokyo Course has sometimes been compared to the Belmont Park Course.
But I believe that Tokyo's 2000m turf's start remains more dangerous than the Belmont's 10F dirt start.

Tokyo course (now)
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Belmont Park
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lurkey mclurker
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:10 pm

Getting excited about the potential field of fillies & mares for next week's G1 QEII Cup!

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tachyon
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:47 am

I'm all for Rouge Buck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (of course)
The four-time GSW gets Ryan Moore in quest for her first victory at the highest level.
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:23 am

I didn't look if someone already posted a link to this documentary. It's really worth watching! From breeding to racing, to the organization, showcasing the greatest japanese Thoroughbreds... was wonderful to watch.

Global Impact - The Rice Of the Japanese Thoroughbred

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IywC3QwJJuk
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