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Sparrow Castle
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Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:57 pm

Horsebagger wrote:
BigDonOKC wrote:
Horsebagger wrote:Looks like the connections of Greyvitos are pulling out all stops trying to get him to the Derby. 4th work in 17 days today?? Do I have that correct? Yeesh.

Either that, or they are on the fast track to retirement.
why not he is now 19 on derby list

'Why not' is an easy question to answer if you understand the risks of training race horses.
Yikes, quite a lot for a horse early in his third year. Hope he inherited the soundness from his dam's side.
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Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:38 pm

Does anyone know anything about Dak Attack ?
The Ghostzapper x Indian Spell colt hasn't recorded a work since January 22nd with his only start of the season being January 6th.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:33 pm

Hovdey: Kitchingman has seen fire, rain, and injury
Greyvitos is not part of some racehorse witness protection program. It only seems that way.

From the moment he sparked interest last November while winning the Grade 3 Bob Hope Stakes at Del Mar, defeating a field that included Mourinho and Run Away, Greyvitos had the look of a colt with a future. What kind of future was unclear, but it figured to be an interesting ride.

Too interesting, as it turned out. Since the Hope, Greyvitos has been evacuated from the fires that swept through part of the San Luis Rey Downs Training Center, found temporary stabling at Del Mar, shipped to Remington Park in Oklahoma to win the $400,000 Springboard Mile, and then took the long way back to California by way of Kentucky.

No sooner had he returned to Del Mar than his trainer, Adam Kitchingman, detected heat in both knees. Small bone chips were surgically removed and the usual recovery period was prescribed. And then, as the tide rose in the fevered swamp of Kentucky Derby anticipation, Greyvitos was pretty much wiped from the grid.

Somebody forgot to tell Greyvitos, though. By February the colt was threatening his keepers with bodily harm if they didn’t loosen his leash. They complied. Since Feb. 26, the gray son of Malibu Moon has worked 3, 4, 5, and then 6 furlongs on Tuesday over a drying track at Del Mar, with exercise rider and head traveling lad Fernando Cano in the irons.

“He does whatever you want him to,” Cano said later Tuesday morning as a well-cooled Greyvitos tortured a mouth full of green alfalfa. “He’s our big horse.”
More: http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-kitching ... and-injury
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:58 pm

from DRF.....

McKinzie targeted for Santa Anita Derby, Justify to Arkansas Derby, per Baffert
He's known to call audibles, but "as of today," as trainer Bob Baffert put it this morning, McKinzie will remain at Santa Anita for the Santa Anita Derby on April 7 and Justify will head to Oaklawn Park for the Arkansas Derby on April 14.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:02 pm

Anyone know any updates on Analyze Itwho won nicely on the turf in NY and CA last year?
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Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:16 pm

Squeaky wrote:Anyone know any updates on Analyze Itwho won nicely on the turf in NY and CA last year?
Equibase has the details of his weekly workouts at Palm Meadows. His 4F time is improving. Compared to other horses working on those days he does seem to be falling back towards the middle of the group, but I have of course no idea how hard they're pushing him.
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Mask (3-Year-Old Colt)
Date: March 16, 2018
Track: PALM MEADOWS TRAINING CENTER
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 49:10 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 8/57
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Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:34 am

My Boy Jack (3-Year-Old Colt)
Date: March 17, 2018
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.00:40 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/11
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Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:51 pm

Zatter (3-Year-Old Colt)
Date: March 17, 2018
Track: LOS ALAMITOS
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 49:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 7/11
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Prince Lucky (3-Year-Old Colt)
Date: March 17, 2018
Track: PALM BEACH DOWNS
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.01:50 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 3/10
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Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:50 am

Squeaky wrote:Anyone know any updates on Analyze Itwho won nicely on the turf in NY and CA last year?

It is my understanding that he is running on Opening Day at Keeneland.
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Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:20 pm

Thanks!
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Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:43 pm

A Different Style (3-Year-Old Colt)
Date: March 19, 2018
Track: PARX RACING
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.01:56 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 4/15
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Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:17 pm

Bolt's back a bit stiff again. He looked much better than previously in his last work before San Felipe, pay that masseuse some overtime!

https://www.xbtv.com/video/tc18/bolt-do ... 18th-2018/
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Papa Caballero (3-Year-Old Gelding)
Date: March 20, 2018
Track: LOS ALAMITOS
Distance: Three Furlongs
Time: 36:80 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/7


Builder (3-Year-Old Gelding)
Date: March 20, 2018
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.01:20 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 19/47
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Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:45 am

Do you mean Bolt looks better or worse than before San Felipe? What makes you think is back us stiff? I did notice a shorter stride and not reaching out as much ( more up and down movement).
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Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:38 am

I'm skeptical of any Medaglia d'Oro baby doing a mile and a quarter. But for the Travers, he pretty much struggled with the distance and pretty much his progeny does, as well, on the dirt.
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Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:57 am

Squeaky wrote:Do you mean Bolt looks better or worse than before San Felipe? What makes you think is back us stiff? I did notice a shorter stride and not reaching out as much ( more up and down movement).
I noticed the short-strided work, also
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Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:02 pm

Ballerina wrote:I'm skeptical of any Medaglia d'Oro baby doing a mile and a quarter. But for the Travers, he pretty much struggled with the distance and pretty much his progeny does, as well, on the dirt.

The theory that Medaglia D'Oro couldn't get 1 1/4 falls apart under any legitimate scrutiny. His second place finish in the 2003 BC Classic, when he engaged a rapid pace involving Congaree, remains one of the better losing performances in BC Classic history. His second in the Dubai World Cup was similarly impressive. Finishing behind Pleasantly Perfect in those races is hardly an indication that he couldn't handle the distance. The same could be said for his Pacific Classic behind Candy Ride, whose win that day was probably the best performance in the history of that race. Using a horse's finishing position as the ultimate determinant of any horse's performance in a given race can easily result in deceptive analysis. Medaglia D'Oro was a close second in the Belmont Stakes at 1 1/2 miles as well. Distance was not a problem for this horse. Perhaps the race dynamics and competition were tougher in his 1 1/4 races. His speed figures in those races certainly back up that opinion.
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Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:15 pm

thinair wrote:
Ballerina wrote:I'm skeptical of any Medaglia d'Oro baby doing a mile and a quarter. But for the Travers, he pretty much struggled with the distance and pretty much his progeny does, as well, on the dirt.

The theory that Medaglia D'Oro couldn't get 1 1/4 falls apart under any legitimate scrutiny. His second place finish in the 2003 BC Classic, when he engaged a rapid pace involving Congaree, remains one of the better losing performances in BC Classic history. His second in the Dubai World Cup was similarly impressive. Finishing behind Pleasantly Perfect in those races is hardly an indication that he couldn't handle the distance. The same could be said for his Pacific Classic behind Candy Ride, whose win that day was probably the best performance in the history of that race. Using a horse's finishing position as the ultimate determinant of any horse's performance in a given race can easily result in deceptive analysis. Medaglia D'Oro was a close second in the Belmont Stakes at 1 1/2 miles as well. Distance was not a problem for this horse. Perhaps the race dynamics and competition were tougher in his 1 1/4 races. His speed figures in those races certainly back up that opinion.
Yeah, well he sill finished 2nd a lot of times.
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