2019 derby prep races.

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BigDonOKC
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Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:32 pm

The first race of the year Jerome Stakes at Aqueduct race 8 at one mile. Small field 10 points

If they run off money should run 3-4-1-2-5-6
If they run off speed should run 6-3-2-1-5-4

Which will it be?????? :?

Could not get the race day program but will on race day,
but for now I see it 3-4-2-6 straight. :D :D :D
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Direct Order
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:12 pm

Mind Control took it.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:27 pm

did not hit straight super but hit the tri and exta and win straight 8-)
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:49 pm

SHAM RACE 9 AT SANTA ANITA I MILE 1-5-2019.
SPEED 5-6-2-3/7
MONEY PER RACE 6-5-1-7--2-3-4
STRAIGHT PLAY 6-5-1/7-1/7

LET SEE HOW I DO :?: :?: :?: :?:
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:56 pm

6-1-5/2-field

ex 6-1 straight :P :P
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Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:06 am

a 6-1 straight was a smart play :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:03 pm

Wake me up when the San Felipe and Rebel happens in two months. I wasn't a believer in Coliseum and we saw what happened in the Sham.

Florida Derby
Santa Anita Derby
Arkansas Derby

^ The only three preps worth paying attention to most of the time.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:30 am

This would be a 2018 prep, but has the Delta Downs Jackpot been completely discontinued forever?
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 pm

It was discontinued effective last year.

Its always interesting to see how races fall in and out of favor.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:52 pm

Somnambulist wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 pm
It was discontinued effective last year.

Its always interesting to see how races fall in and out of favor.
If that race wasn’t run on what is essentially a bullring, it would probably still be around. When CDI restructured the points a couple of years ago, the race was doomed. Most top trainers just don’t want to run their horses around in a circle even for crazy money.
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Curtis wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:52 pm
Somnambulist wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 pm
It was discontinued effective last year.

Its always interesting to see how races fall in and out of favor.
If that race wasn’t run on what is essentially a bullring, it would probably still be around. When CDI restructured the points a couple of years ago, the race was doomed. Most top trainers just don’t want to run their horses around in a circle even for crazy money.
Derby points had nothing to do with the end of the Delta Jackpot. The race was not run in 2017 because the hurricane had seriously impacted the market for Delta's casino business and management did not want to put up that purse money. Last year, the horsemen requested that the race not be restored and the money instead be distributed throughout the season.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:40 pm

Equi wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:15 pm
Curtis wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:52 pm
Somnambulist wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 pm
It was discontinued effective last year.

Its always interesting to see how races fall in and out of favor.
If that race wasn’t run on what is essentially a bullring, it would probably still be around. When CDI restructured the points a couple of years ago, the race was doomed. Most top trainers just don’t want to run their horses around in a circle even for crazy money.
Derby points had nothing to do with the end of the Delta Jackpot. The race was not run in 2017 because the hurricane had seriously impacted the market for Delta's casino business and management did not want to put up that purse money. Last year, the horsemen requested that the race not be restored and the money instead be distributed throughout the season.
I understand that but if the fields were better I think that it would still be going. Thanks for your response.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:34 pm

Curtis wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:52 pm
Somnambulist wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 pm
It was discontinued effective last year.

Its always interesting to see how races fall in and out of favor.
If that race wasn’t run on what is essentially a bullring, it would probably still be around. When CDI restructured the points a couple of years ago, the race was doomed. Most top trainers just don’t want to run their horses around in a circle even for crazy money.
CDI killing it is something entirely different than owners not wanting to run on a bullring. There are plenty of connections that would run around a bullring for nothings if it meant Derby points. That race actually ended up producing some incredibly good horses. Goldencents stuck out in my head, but when I looked back I completely forgot Big Drama and Exaggerator won it. Gunnevera, too.

There just aren't many races that I have witnessed the rise and fall of in my life. After 20 years of following this game am I finally a veteran?
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:22 pm

Curtis wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:52 pm
Somnambulist wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 pm
It was discontinued effective last year.

Its always interesting to see how races fall in and out of favor.
If that race wasn’t run on what is essentially a bullring, it would probably still be around. When CDI restructured the points a couple of years ago, the race was doomed. Most top trainers just don’t want to run their horses around in a circle even for crazy money.
I have always found the attitude regarding 'bullrings' like Delta and Charles Town…..interesting. Particularly since many (if not most) horses initially train on a myriad of four, five and six furlong training tracks at various Kentucky farms like Calumet, or train at Braeburn's and Aiken's 5 furlong track, or HighPointe and Sagamore's 6 furlong track and the likewise.
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:04 pm

hadrianmarcus wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:22 pm
Curtis wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:52 pm
Somnambulist wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 pm
It was discontinued effective last year.

Its always interesting to see how races fall in and out of favor.
If that race wasn’t run on what is essentially a bullring, it would probably still be around. When CDI restructured the points a couple of years ago, the race was doomed. Most top trainers just don’t want to run their horses around in a circle even for crazy money.
I have always found the attitude regarding 'bullrings' like Delta and Charles Town…..interesting. Particularly since many (if not most) horses initially train on a myriad of four, five and six furlong training tracks at various Kentucky farms like Calumet, or train at Braeburn's and Aiken's 5 furlong track, or HighPointe and Sagamore's 6 furlong track and the likewise.
I don’t really have a problem with bullrings but like most anything in life, they’re best in moderation. There was (hopefully still is) a huge CA Bred, Texcess, who ran second in a stake at Fairplex in his first start and later won the Delta Jackpot. He was a favorite of mine and probably reminded me of his sire as much as any horse. A prevailing thought has always been that big horses are at a decided disadvantage on a bullring but I always think it depends on the horse. Ancient Title, one of the greatest CA Breds ever, began his training at Fairplex back in the days when it was known as Pomona and it was a 1/2 mile. As a result he turned into one of the best turn running horses I’ve ever seen which was pretty devestating given the fact he was a speed type that usually beat his competition to the turns. No one thing really killed the race and as usual it’s more complicated than that. I do think that if CDI was not deminishing support of 2yo races with the Derby point system giving bigger barns more incentive to run there, track management may not have acquiesced to the horsemen. Som listed some nice winners above. A couple, like Texcess when he won it, were from relatively small barns and another from a barn who would probably run over asphalt in concentric circles for short term gain. Money works there but it didn’t seem to pull A-listers from Baffert, Pletcher, etc. Also horses run less and less and it’s a copycat sport. Justify isn’t going to lead connections towards arduous 2yo campaigns. Or perhaps my pontificating is far off the mark. Perhaps a book is in order, “The Rise and Fall of the Delta Jackpot.”
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I promise not to make that history my life's work.
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ElPrado2 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:22 pm
I promise not to make that history my life's work.
Yeah, there are times in life when one needs to assess whether the juice is worth the squeeze, and I like juice but.............😉
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The rain is starting.
Cairo Cat is headed to Rood & Riddle. He's not right and Kenny McPeek is sending him for tests.
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Says he won't be on the Derby trail.
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Somnambulist wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:34 pm
There just aren't many races that I have witnessed the rise and fall of in my life. After 20 years of following this game am I finally a veteran?
I have to remind myself that you are no longer that horse cray kid. I think by now you have torn up enough tickets to be considered a veteran.
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