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Re: Stallion News

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:17 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Gio Ponti was pretty good on turf, and maybe Shadai thinks that Drefong's offspring will tap into that. Japan has bought many horses, both stallions and mares, who have what one might think are dirt pedigrees. Their foals have done just fine on the green stuff. ;)
Maybe they also want to bring some of that speed into the mix for all their distance-lovin' mares?

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:51 am
by Treve
Wasn't Yoshida explaining in that documentary "Global Impact" about Japanese tb that unlike a lot of turf racing in the rest of the world, Japanese turf tracks tend to be of a firmer going and so they favour horses that have good turn of foot? He was theorizing that that was why Sunday Silence blood had such an impact on the breed there because he brought spectacular turn of foot not previously seen in the types of stallion that were imported up to that point.
It would make sense then, that even though they breed for middle, classic and stayer distances, they always also want to keep adding or maintaining speed/acceleration/turn of foot. A characteristic of a lot of prominent american dirt runners ;)

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:14 am
by BaroqueAgain1
They sure loved/love Lord Kanaola and he was fast. One of the best sprinter/milers I've seen in recent years.
IMHO, I think Drefong will do well there.

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:45 am
by Sparrow Castle
I sure hope Drefong does well in Japan. I think he'll be a good fit there for the reasons Treve wrote. I am really rooting for this son of Gio Ponti. Can't wait to see which mares they send to him.

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:37 am
by tachyon
Northport wrote:Interesting news about Drefong, I hadn't seen any release about that until now. Shadai really is stepping into new territory with a dirt sprinter by Gio Ponti. Tbh, I don't really get it.
It was in 2003 when Shadai introduced Swept Overboard(USA) to Japan soon after the mighty stallion End Sweep(USA) had passed away.
Swept Overboard(USA) died last month after proving himself a very good stallion for either surface in Japan.
I suspect that Shadai recruited Drefong(USA) as a potential successor to Swept Overboard(USA).

There's no breeder who don't appreciate the speed.
And, in general, dirt runners can easily turn out to be good stallion for the turf, while turf runners rarely become good stallions for the dirt.
Sunday Silence was a dirt runner, of course. ;)

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:46 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Csaba will move to R Star Stallions in Indiana
Csaba, a Grade 3 winner and young stallion, will relocate for the 2018 breeding season to R Star Stallions in Anderson, Ind., where he will stand for an advertised fee of $2,000 with considerations for stakes mares and stakes producers.

The 8-year-old son of Kitten’s Joy previously stood at Pleasant Acres Stallions in Morriston, Fla., for $2,500. His first foals are 2-year-olds of 2018.

Csaba won 13 of 36 starts over four seasons of racing for earnings of $682,440. He won two editions of the Grade 3 Fred W. Hooper Stakes and the listed Memorial Handicap, with single wins in the Grade 3 Hal’s Hope Stakes, and the non-graded Harlan’s Holiday Stakes, Skip Trial Stakes, Tripical Park Derby, and El Kaiser Stakes.

His four additional graded stakes placings include a runner-up effort in the Grade 2 National Museum of Racing Hall of Fame Stakes and a third in the Grade 3 Palm Beach Handicap.
http://www.drf.com/news/csaba-will-move ... ns-indiana

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:07 pm
by mariasmon
Oooh. Now I can go visit Csaba!

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:53 pm
by bare it all
The lovely Kingmambo stallion Archipenko has died at 13. Fast-spreading lymphoma.

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:30 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Taylor Made Farm added 36 new photos to the album: California Chrome arrives to Taylor Made — at Taylor Made Farm.
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California Chrome, 2x Horse of the Year, arrived safely to Taylor Made Farm on December 15, 2017 at about 8:30am.
California Chrome has been breeding in the southern hemisphere in Chile at Haras Sumaya.
Welcome Home, Chrome! Enjoy the rest and relaxation!
https://www.facebook.com/taylormadeadva ... =3&theater

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:38 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
There is an article on Bloodhorse.com about Chrome's return to TM: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... qus_thread. Among the things mentioned in the article is this:

The dual classic winner and seven-time grade 1-winning son of Lucky Pulpit—Love the Chase, by Not For Love, was bred to 110 mares while standing at Oussama Aboughazale's Sumaya Stud near Santiago, Chile. His Southern Hemisphere mares included 12 graded/group winners, another 15 listed black-type winners, and 22 black-type producers.

Lady Pelusa (ARG) (by Orpen), the dam of unbeaten Robert Bruce (CHI)—last year's Chilean champion 2-year-old and this year's winner of the Chilean Triple Crown—was among the high-profile mares he was bred to. California Chrome's book also included Chiliean-bred grade/group 1 winners Noble Belleza (Happy Hunting) and Viene Canando (Gstaad).

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Just wanted to say how sorry I am about Archipenko

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:26 pm
by Sparrow Castle
A Long Road Home for Mr Speaker
When Mr Speaker (Pulpit) set foot on the grounds at Lane’s End Farm Friday to begin preparations for the 2018 breeding season, his return represented the culmination of a year-long ordeal that left the third-year stallion quarantined in Chile being treated for piroplasmosis, a tick-borne disease found in horses.

After covering 117 mares while fully syndicated in his first year at Lane’s End in 2016, Mr Speaker was shipped to stand his initial Southern Hemisphere season at Haras Cordillera in Chile. When the GI Belmont Derby winner returned to Miami at the conclusion of the year in December 2016, he was not permitted to re-enter the United States due to a positive test–a development that left the Lane’s End team searching for answers.

“He was tested when he left Chile, but they didn’t get the results until he got to Miami,” said Bill Farish, general manager of Lane’s End. “He was tested again when he got to Miami, and he was positive for piroplasmosis. They said the option was to send him back to Chile…So he got back there and there was a very lengthy treatment protocol that took a long, long time to work. He tested basically every month for a year. Thankfully, he’s testing negative again.”

The recent negative tests opened the door for the Mr Speaker’s return to America earlier this month. After spending a week in quarantine in Miami, the stallion was finally cleared to make his way back to Kentucky.

“It was quite a surprise,” Farish said, reflecting on the past year. “It really is a blow to syndicate members and to us whenever you have a young stallion entering his second year at stud. When you can’t have that second season, it’s tough.”

When asked about Mr Speaker’s future prospects, Farish said it has been a work in progress calling attention to the fact he has returned to the United States. Because Mr Speaker was absent for the entirety of what would have been his second year at stud in North America–effectively putting a halt to the continuity of his career–the young stallion will likely need to prove himself all over again in 2018.
http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/a- ... mr-speaker

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:55 am
by Sparrow Castle
Melissa Bauer-Herzog‏ @mbauerherzog
17m17 minutes ago
According to a post from @oakhurstequine in Oregon on Facebook, 1996 #KYDerby winner Grindstone has been pensioned from public breeding duties. The first #KYDerby winner to stand in OR, he has been joined in recent years by Giacomo.
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Oakhurst Farm‏ @oakhurstequine
Oct 4
Grindstone at 24! He's loves his visitors and personal fan club!
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Raised A Secret GSP (Songandaprayer - Sensitive Soul by Bernstein) joins Giacomo and Slew’s Saga for 2018.

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:44 am
by Ridan_Remembered
Grindstone looks fabulous in that photo.

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:30 am
by oldgraymare
Grindstone is "not commercially breeding". Does that mean he will meet a few carefully chosen private mares?

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:05 pm
by Izvestia
I love Grindstone! Worked with a few of his babies, they were awesome. He did well out here, I hope he has a happy retirement!!

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:15 pm
by Northport
oldgraymare wrote:Grindstone is "not commercially breeding". Does that mean he will meet a few carefully chosen private mares?
Sounds like it. Probably just shareholder mares.

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:43 pm
by serenassong
Northport wrote:
oldgraymare wrote:Grindstone is "not commercially breeding". Does that mean he will meet a few carefully chosen private mares?
Sounds like it. Probably just shareholder mares.
Or maybe "AI" with other breeds(QH)- like they did with Storm Cat and Favorite Trick among others. Both are gone- but I seem to remember reading that there is still some Favorite Trick swimmers around.

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:13 pm
by middleground
Per the Jockey Club, Grindstone was bred to 4 mares last year.

He's still a great looking horse and got a few nice runners early on in his stud career.

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:43 am
by Sparrow Castle
Duke of Mischief Relocated to Indiana
Freshman sire Duke of Mischief will be relocated from Northwest Stud in Central Florida to the Equine Veterinary Hospital of Northern Indiana, near Wakarusa, where he'll stand for $2,000 for 2018.

The 11-year-old multiple graded stakes winner of nearly $2 million is now owned solely by his breeder, Marilyn McMaster, who bought out the partners with whom she raced the son of Graeme Hall.

Duke of Mischief did his best racing from 4 to 6, when he won four graded stakes, including the Oaklawn Handicap (G2), Charles Town Classic Stakes (G3), Philip H. Iselin Stakes (G3), and the Ft. Lauderdale Stakes (G3). As a sire, his progeny are expected to improve with age.

"He was not getting enough support in Florida," said Dan Boik, manager of McMaster Farm. "He will be more of a classic-type horse, so we think he'll do better with a different group of mares. Indiana also has a strong sire stakes program. We think we'll have more success with Indiana-breds."
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Duke of Mischief will stand for the 2018 season for $2,000 in Indiana
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... to-indiana

Re: Stallion News

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:43 am
by serenassong
Sparrow Castle wrote:Duke of Mischief Relocated to Indiana
Freshman sire Duke of Mischief will be relocated from Northwest Stud in Central Florida to the Equine Veterinary Hospital of Northern Indiana, near Wakarusa, where he'll stand for $2,000 for 2018.

The 11-year-old multiple graded stakes winner of nearly $2 million is now owned solely by his breeder, Marilyn McMaster, who bought out the partners with whom she raced the son of Graeme Hall.

Duke of Mischief did his best racing from 4 to 6, when he won four graded stakes, including the Oaklawn Handicap (G2), Charles Town Classic Stakes (G3), Philip H. Iselin Stakes (G3), and the Ft. Lauderdale Stakes (G3). As a sire, his progeny are expected to improve with age.

"He was not getting enough support in Florida," said Dan Boik, manager of McMaster Farm. "He will be more of a classic-type horse, so we think he'll do better with a different group of mares. Indiana also has a strong sire stakes program. We think we'll have more success with Indiana-breds."
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Duke of Mischief will stand for the 2018 season for $2,000 in Indiana
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... to-indiana
I have been seeing alot of nice horses either in or going to Indiana. Could work out very well, and the next big horse may come from their program. They seem to be promoting and doing the right things.