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Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:30 am

Treve wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:24 am
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Mylute wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:07 pm
He would have to have a homozygous gray mate to have one, if my genetics studies from 7th grade haven't failed me.
That isn't how it works in Thoroughbreds. Grey is a color modifier. If one parent is grey then every foal has a 50% chance to be grey. Of course there can be homozygous grey Thoroughbreds, Linamix, Swing Til Dawn, Al Hattab, are a few I can think of.
25% chance of being grey is one parent is heterozygous grey. 50% chance of being grey if both parents are heterozygous grey, and 100% chance of being grey if one parent is homozygous, if I recall the probability breakdown correctly.
So my 7th grade life science has or has not failed me? Lol.
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Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:04 am

Mylute wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:30 am
Treve wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:24 am
Flanders wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:48 am

That isn't how it works in Thoroughbreds. Grey is a color modifier. If one parent is grey then every foal has a 50% chance to be grey. Of course there can be homozygous grey Thoroughbreds, Linamix, Swing Til Dawn, Al Hattab, are a few I can think of.
25% chance of being grey is one parent is heterozygous grey. 50% chance of being grey if both parents are heterozygous grey, and 100% chance of being grey if one parent is homozygous, if I recall the probability breakdown correctly.
So my 7th grade life science has or has not failed me? Lol.
Ah depends on how you look at it :D your 7th grade class was partly right, but potentially misleading?
Homozygous grey will guarantee a grey foal, as grey is dominant and only needs one copy to be expressed. Since a homozygous horse has two copies, they will always transmit one to the offspring (this is why double dilutes like cremello and perlino horses are 'guaranteed colour producers' as they will necessarily throw buckskin, palomino or smokey black).
But a heterozygous grey parent also has a chance at throwing a grey foal, it's just not guaranteed they will inherit that lone copy of the gene. But if they do, since grey is dominant, the foal will be grey.
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John F Kennedy (Galileo/Rumplestiltskin), a G3 winner and full brother to G1W Tapestry, standing at Haras Abolengo in Argentina.

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Does he look a wee bit short-legged for a Galileo? :oops:
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Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:32 am

Treve wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:24 am
Flanders wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:48 am
Mylute wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:07 pm
He would have to have a homozygous gray mate to have one, if my genetics studies from 7th grade haven't failed me.
That isn't how it works in Thoroughbreds. Grey is a color modifier. If one parent is grey then every foal has a 50% chance to be grey. Of course there can be homozygous grey Thoroughbreds, Linamix, Swing Til Dawn, Al Hattab, are a few I can think of.
25% chance of being grey is one parent is heterozygous grey. 50% chance of being grey if both parents are heterozygous grey, and 100% chance of being grey if one parent is homozygous, if I recall the probability breakdown correctly.
No its 50% if one parent if heterozygous grey, either they give the gene or they don't, its a 50/50 chance. If both parents are heterozygous grey then its 75%.
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Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:42 am

Flanders wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:32 am
Treve wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:24 am
Flanders wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:48 am

That isn't how it works in Thoroughbreds. Grey is a color modifier. If one parent is grey then every foal has a 50% chance to be grey. Of course there can be homozygous grey Thoroughbreds, Linamix, Swing Til Dawn, Al Hattab, are a few I can think of.
25% chance of being grey is one parent is heterozygous grey. 50% chance of being grey if both parents are heterozygous grey, and 100% chance of being grey if one parent is homozygous, if I recall the probability breakdown correctly.
No its 50% if one parent if heterozygous grey, either they give the gene or they don't, its a 50/50 chance. If both parents are heterozygous grey then its 75%.
This is correct. And a homozygous grey will always have grey foals, as every offspring will inherit a grey gene, which is dominant.
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:06 am
Does he look a wee bit short-legged for a Galileo? :oops:

I was thinking the exact same thing when I just now saw this picture. But, wow, Galileo sure stamps his progeny, doesn't he?
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mariasmon wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:55 pm
John F Kennedy (Galileo/Rumplestiltskin), a G3 winner and full brother to G1W Tapestry, standing at Haras Abolengo in Argentina.

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I like his name, ha.

Also, Galileo + Rumplestiltskin = JFK? :lol:
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Not a new photo, but one I know hasn't been posted here before. According to the farm's Facebook page he was pensioner this year due to lack of interest. A shame because he has a strong family, and also according to their FB he has had several winners this year. I wanted to share it because I like to think people like black thoroughbreds as much as I do.

Planet Five (Storm Cat x Six Perfections, by Celtic Swing)

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Mylute wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:11 am
mariasmon wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:55 pm
John F Kennedy (Galileo/Rumplestiltskin), a G3 winner and full brother to G1W Tapestry, standing at Haras Abolengo in Argentina.

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I like his name, ha.

Also, Galileo + Rumplestiltskin = JFK? :lol:
He was favourite for the Epsom Derby at one point, and was way hyped before and after he broke his maiden, hence the Tier 1 Coolmore name (up there with the likes of George Washington, Camelot, Australia), unfortunately, he just didn't improve as a 3 year old.
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Mylute wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:25 pm
Not a new photo, but one I know hasn't been posted here before. According to the farm's Facebook page he was pensioner this year due to lack of interest. A shame because he has a strong family, and also according to their FB he has had several winners this year. I wanted to share it because I like to think people like black thoroughbreds as much as I do.

Planet Five (Storm Cat x Six Perfections, by Celtic Swing)

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Oh, it's been posted. A long time ago, by me.
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Flanders wrote: Of course it seems like a lot but there are no true outcrosses anymore or at least none that anyone would use. I would imagine it is close to impossible to find a horse that doesn't have either Mr. Prospector or Northern Dancer in its pedigree somewhere.
Manhattan Cafe, Tagula, Mizzen Mast, Aikenite, Skipshot, Musketier, Network, Lauro, Balko, Robin des Champs, among many others.
Ok so from your list there is one US based stallion that people actually use, Mizzen Mast. But he is 20 years old and has no heir apparent as his 3 sons at stud have zero stakes winners between them.
Manhattan Cafe was the only other one of that list that was successful, he stood in Japan and died in 2015. I think the rest of them have 1 stakes winner amongst them. That was what I meant by or at least none that anyone would use. Breeders flock to the hot lines and when someone, for example Calumet, tries to bring in outcross stallions breeders don't use them. If there are outcrosses and no one uses them, its pointless.
Going through oldish posts here but I wanted to say that Revolutionary is advertised as being free of Northern Dancer on WinStar's website, since I couldn't say it when I wasn't able to get an account on here.

But knowing WinStar he'll be exported soon because he's not churning out juvy winners like Uncle Mo.
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:41 pm

Revolutionary is a great-grandson of Mr. Prospector. It's relatively easy in the US to find a horse free of Mr. P or ND, but not both. That was Flanders' point.
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Sessions by Lonhro out of Seances by Canny Lad
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Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:09 pm

Here's a newer photo of Bobby's Kitten shared by Ramsey Farm's Facebook

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