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Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:02 pm
by middleground
I'm new to these lists. To quote DFR: These standings provide a measurement of a sire’s ability to produce high-quality horses, not necessarily the most winners or highest earners. The results are interesting, especially for the 100+ horses.

http://www.drf.com/breeding/sire-list-beyer/

2017 leaders with runners over Beyer 90+:

1. War Front
2. Kitten's Joy
3. Tapit
4. Giant's Causeway
5. Candy Ride

2017 leaders with runners over Beyer 100+:

1. Kitten's Joy
2. Curlin
3. Lookin at Lucky
4. Dubawi
5. Scat Daddy (tie)
5. War Front (tie)
5. English Channel (tie)
5. Stormy Atlantic (tie)

Re: Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:05 am
by BaroqueAgain1
Kitten's Joy #1? Yeah, I'd say that's interesting. :shock:
And also very, very cool. 8-)

Re: Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:04 am
by Starspangled
That order is based on runs rather than runners?

Re: Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:54 pm
by middleground
Starspangled wrote:That order is based on runs rather than runners?

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Yes. The lists I posted above are ranked by runs over 100+, although I stated erroneously that they were by runners. You can, however also sort the rankings by the number of a sire's runners that have Beyer figures at 100+

According to the databases, Kitten's Joy's foals have hit BSP 100+ 17 times; six of KJ's foals achieved that figure.

If you ranked the sires by # of get to hit 100+ BSF:

1. Curlin (7 horses)
1. War Front (7)
1. Dubawi (7)

2. Smart Strike (6)
2. Galileo (6)
2. Kitten's Joy (6)

3. Lookin At Lucky (5)
3. Scat Daddy (5)
3. MDO (5)
3. Tapit (5)

However you sort the lists, you will find the names you more or less expect to find; Lookin At Lucky and Stormy Atlantic show up more often in the upper levels than I might have guessed, however.

Re: Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:03 pm
by Izvestia
Stormy Atlantic has always been a sire of very good horses, but flies under the radar because his sales aren’t through the roof, and a lot of them are turf horses. He’s one of my favourites!

Re: Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:19 pm
by Altanbarr
Interesting that Smart Strike and two of his sons are in the top ten, and two turf sires by El Prado.

Re: Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:58 pm
by bare it all
I think it's better to separate turf and dirt here. I also think the % of runners hitting that Beyer are interesting to note.

Top 5 Dirt Sires (by #horses 90+ Beyers)
Malibu Moon (10%)
Curlin (12%)
Candy Ride (10%)
Tapit (9%)
Quality Road (10%)

Top 5 Turf Sires (by # horses 90+ Beyers)
War Front (30% of runners) :shock:
Kittens Joy (10%)
Giants Causeway (12%)
English Channel (12%)
Scat Daddy (9%)

Re: Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:51 pm
by Flanders
bare it all wrote:I think it's better to separate turf and dirt here. I also think the % of runners hitting that Beyer are interesting to note.

Top 5 Turf Sires (by # horses 90+ Beyers)
War Front (30% of runners) :shock:

His numbers are always very good, across the board.

Re: Beyer Sire Lists

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:09 am
by serenassong
I found all of this very interesting, like playing around with it.