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Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:06 pm

Oh no OH NO he'd been doing so well!! He looked so fabulous in Twitter updates just yesterday!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

Please please please let him survive & recover. :cry: :cry: :cry:

https://www.racing.com/news/2017-10-17/ ... lfield-cup
Admire Deus is battling for life with the Japanese galloper being transferred from Warrnambool to Ballarat for emergency surgery after breaking down on Tuesday morning.

Jarrod McLean, Darren Weir's foreman at Warrnambool, said on Tuesday morning that the horse, who was to run in Saturday's $3.15million BMW Caulfield Cup, had sustained a serious leg injury that had put his life in danger.

"I reckon it's still touch and go," McLean told RSN 927's Racing Pulse.

"As far as rehabilitation goes it’s a horrific injury and I would be surprised if he raced again."

McLean explained what exactly happened in what was supposed to be Admire Deus' final piece of work for Saturday's Cup.

"He was out having his final gallop - Johnny Allen came down to partner him," McLean said.

"Absolutely no criticism of the club, absolutely beautiful surface to gallop on, it's just one of those things.

"He was working with his mate Burning Front, and about 100m out, he came to his outside to join him and hopefully run past him - initially it looked like he had broken a leg. Johnny had him pulled up quite quickly, but kept him to his feet.

"We were able to get him into the horse ambulance and back to our stables. We've since had a scan and an X-ray, and there's no breaks or fractures, but there is fragments of bone. On scan, it looks like he's done the ligaments in the lower part of the suspensory.

"It's pretty horrible - the pastern joint is close to the ground.

"We've made him as comfortable as we can - we've put a splint on him - and he's in the process of being transported to Ballarat for further information."
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Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:07 pm

Not the news I was expecting, but not the news I wanted either. :cry:

https://www.punters.com.au/news/waiting ... us_163120/
Japanese import Admire Deus remains under the care of vets at the Ballarat Clinic after suffering a horrific leg injury in a track gallop at Warrnambool on Tuesday.

Australian Bloodstock's Jamie Lovett said vets were doing everything to keep Admire Deus comfortable.

"There’s no change, we’re probably in a holding pattern with the horse," Lovett told RSN.

"The vets are doing everything they can to make him comfortable, but it’s a pretty horrific injury he’s sustained."

"Unfortunately the prognosis is probably not that good, but we are giving him every chance."

Lovett said surgery was not possible at this stage.

"His fetlock is basically not in a good way."

"We can’t (operate) at this stage, they’re trying to stabilise the fetlock and there’s issues with blood supply.

"He’s comfortable and that’s the main thing from our point of view."

Admire Deus had firmed into favouritism for the Caulfield Cup at the start of the week and Lovett said Darren Weir had the horse in great order.

"Talking to Weiry yesterday, the horse had the perfect preparation."

"He made comment there’s not a sounder horse in the stable, it’s just one of those things."

Admire Deus finished fourth in the Group One Tenno Sho back in April before heading to Australia.
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Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:44 am

lurkey mclurker wrote:Oh no OH NO he'd been doing so well!! He looked so fabulous in Twitter updates just yesterday!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

Please please please let him survive & recover. :cry: :cry: :cry:

https://www.racing.com/news/2017-10-17/ ... lfield-cup
Admire Deus is battling for life with the Japanese galloper being transferred from Warrnambool to Ballarat for emergency surgery after breaking down on Tuesday morning.

Jarrod McLean, Darren Weir's foreman at Warrnambool, said on Tuesday morning that the horse, who was to run in Saturday's $3.15million BMW Caulfield Cup, had sustained a serious leg injury that had put his life in danger.

"I reckon it's still touch and go," McLean told RSN 927's Racing Pulse.

"As far as rehabilitation goes it’s a horrific injury and I would be surprised if he raced again."

McLean explained what exactly happened in what was supposed to be Admire Deus' final piece of work for Saturday's Cup.

"He was out having his final gallop - Johnny Allen came down to partner him," McLean said.

"Absolutely no criticism of the club, absolutely beautiful surface to gallop on, it's just one of those things.

"He was working with his mate Burning Front, and about 100m out, he came to his outside to join him and hopefully run past him - initially it looked like he had broken a leg. Johnny had him pulled up quite quickly, but kept him to his feet.

"We were able to get him into the horse ambulance and back to our stables. We've since had a scan and an X-ray, and there's no breaks or fractures, but there is fragments of bone. On scan, it looks like he's done the ligaments in the lower part of the suspensory.

"It's pretty horrible - the pastern joint is close to the ground.

"We've made him as comfortable as we can - we've put a splint on him - and he's in the process of being transported to Ballarat for further information."
This sounds really bad, hoping he can pull thru.
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:11 pm

Two horses just went down before the finish line in the 7th at Santa Anita...Hawk's Journey and Warren's Crystalized, if I heard correctly. :(
You know it's bad when Wrona goes to the word "crashed."

ETA: Joe Talamo is up and walking, Israel Ocampo being transported to the hospital with what may be a broken nose and injured wrist. TVG keeps going on and on about how dangerous the sport is for riders (we know that), but aren't giving any news on the two horses, other than WC went down and the other horse fell over.
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:04 pm

According to Bloodhorse - Warren's Crystalized was euthanized due to severe fractures of her front legs. It sounds horrible.
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:35 am

I just don't have a good feeling, at all... :cry: :cry: :cry:
Admire Deus decision on Sunday
Andrew Eddy@fastisheddy 21 October, 2017

The fate of injured Japanese stayer Admire Deus will be known on Sunday.

Trainer Darren Weir told reporters at Caulfield after the win of Snitzepeg that an insurance veterinarian will examine the horse's badly damaged leg which forced him out of the Caulfield Cup and instead into a fight for his life.

A solemn Weir confirmed that a decision would be made regarding the stayer's future by the end of the weekend.

"There are two options," he said. "They operate on him on Monday or they put him down."

Admire Deus was shaping as one of the favourites for the Caulfield Cup until he broke down badly at the end of a track gallop at Warrnambool on Tuesday.
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:17 am

"...an insurance veterinarian..." ???

Are we talking about a situation where INSURANCE will decide whether it's worth trying to save the horse? :shock:
Yeah, I have a real bad feeling, too. :evil:
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:37 am

I think I read it the other way... that the connections may have decided it's best to euthanize, but it has to be approved by the insurance company? I think that's the standard practice?

I dunno. Miracles have happened... but I just don't know. :( :( :(
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:11 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:"...an insurance veterinarian..." ???

Are we talking about a situation where INSURANCE will decide whether it's worth trying to save the horse? :shock:
Yeah, I have a real bad feeling, too. :evil:
Here in the UK, certain injuries are deemed serious enough to warrant immediate euthanasia and the insurers will pay out. Other injuries require two seperate vets to perform assessments prior to euthanasia to determine whether an insurance payout can be given. Its designed to protect horses from being euthanised in cases where they could be saved / have good prognosis purely so the owner can collect the insurance pay out.
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:12 pm

How much longer will this drag on... they keep saying he's comfortable, I hope to God that's actually true.
Vets to make call on whether to euthanise Admire Deus today
Leo Schlink, Herald Sun
an hour ago

ADMIRE Deus’ fate will be known today.

The stricken Japanese star remains under sedation at the Ballarat Veterinary Clinic as experts decide whether to operate on the import or euthanise him.

The former Caulfield and Melbourne Cup favourite suffered an horrific suspensory ligament injury to his nearside leg during trackwork at Warrnambool six days ago.

Darren Weir said Admire Deus was “comfortable as possible.”

“But I think everyone is aware this is a very, very serious injury,” he said. “A decision will be made this afternoon.”

Admire Deus, which was bought from Japanese interests by Australian Bloodstock, was inspected by an insurance agency vet yesterday.

He will be scoped again today by other vets before a decision in made on his future.

The unusual nature of the injury prompted Ballarat veterinary experts to seek other opinions on the best course of treatment.

But there are increasing fears the chestnut could suffer terminal laminitis if blood flow to a badly damaged joint is compromised.
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:49 pm

Seriously, we had a horse with the same injury and they put him down immediately. What's the point of having them endure more pain and suffering? It's not fair. I know some can be saved. But their quality of life is limited.
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:11 am

Izvestia wrote:Seriously, we had a horse with the same injury and they put him down immediately. What's the point of having them endure more pain and suffering? It's not fair. I know some can be saved. But their quality of life is limited.
But then again, limited quality of life may be better than no life? If the surgery is feasible (medically and financially), I lean towards giving him the chance.
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:10 pm

Do you think Barbaro had quality of life?

And if money was the answer, then why do so many badly injured horses (Irap) take a turn for the worse? The reality is that most of them with injuries like that don't make it. And it's a long, drawn out, painful death. It's awful.
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:58 pm

Has there been any news about Admire Deus?
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:03 pm

Izvestia wrote:Do you think Barbaro had quality of life?
At the end, no, Barbaro didn't have quality of life, and to their credit, they had him put down. Yes, maybe a few weeks too late.
Izvestia wrote: And if money was the answer, then why do so many badly injured horses (Irap) take a turn for the worse? The reality is that most of them with injuries like that don't make it. And it's a long, drawn out, painful death. It's awful.
When it becomes obvious that they won't make it, they get euthanized, and that process works just as fast or slow, is just as painful or painless as when they are euthanized on the track.

You should have noticed by now that a lot of them are "good patients" and seem to accept their hospitalization as almost a game, as long as things overall continue to get better.
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:15 pm

IIRC, Barbaro was improving. The complicated surgical repair to his broken leg was healing, and he even got to go outside to graze for a couple of days. His prognosis seemed hopeful.
Then he got laminitis. I forget whether if was the 'healthy' rear leg or his front legs, but things went downhill quickly.
I remember the shock I felt. It seemed like one day he was improving...and the next day he was gone. :shock: :(
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:43 pm

Sure, Barbaro's bad leg was healing, but the rest of him was degrading.He just looked skinny and unhealthy, especially as it worsened and they kept him alive.

Having just had a horse with an IV in his neck for 4 days with a staph infection- they really let you know when they aren't feeling well. I just don't think trying to save them is the most humane thing. Even if you have all the money in the world.
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:27 pm

short_lead wrote:Has there been any news about Admire Deus?
Still NOTHING. Either they STILL haven't made a decision, or it's made but they don't want to say for whatever reason (ideally that he came out of surgery & is doing well, but I am so not optimistic that would be the actual news)... argh!!! :x
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:54 pm

Admire Deus has had surgery and so far so good according to an Aussie publication.
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:59 pm

Finally an update! And not what I was expecting, I am (cautiously, sooooo cautiously) happy for him and hoping for a speedy and unremarkable recovery! :::crosses everything:::
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Admire Deus has had surgery and is recovering well. Still a long road to go but going in right direction. Thanks for all the well wishes.
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