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stark
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:44 pm

So the pari-mutual clerks want to go on strike.

Let's see if I got this right.....
I own a restaurant and sometimes a Thursday night turns out to be pretty slow, so as the owner I decide to tell a couple of the waitresses, a busboy and a bartender that they can go home early today because the amount of business doesn't warrant the amount of staffing we have on hand.

But in a similar situation at DelMar, the union clerks want to be guaranteed that they will not be sent home, that the staffing requirements will remain in place no matter the customer demand.

Does that really make sense to anybody?

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... rike-in-ca
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:05 pm

Lots of horses entered for 10 race card on opening day, enjoy!

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbHors ... -20180718D
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:49 pm

stark wrote:Lots of horses entered for 10 race card on opening day, enjoy!

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbHors ... -20180718D
Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the overnight listing linked above, extra race 8 for the following day.....
ain't never seen any condition quite like that!!!

X8 EXTRA RACE NO 8 MAIDEN CLAIMING
Purse $43,000. For Maidens, Two Years Old.
Weight 120 lbs.
CLAIMING PRICE $150,000
FIVE FURLONGS
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:18 am

stark wrote:So the pari-mutual clerks want to go on strike.

Let's see if I got this right.....
I own a restaurant and sometimes a Thursday night turns out to be pretty slow, so as the owner I decide to tell a couple of the waitresses, a busboy and a bartender that they can go home early today because the amount of business doesn't warrant the amount of staffing we have on hand.

But in a similar situation at DelMar, the union clerks want to be guaranteed that they will not be sent home, that the staffing requirements will remain in place no matter the customer demand.

Does that really make sense to anybody?

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... rike-in-ca
It is the state of the UNIONS in California - GET RID OF THEM - I so hope they do not disrupt the meet... >>/??? I have not heard any other track have these issues..ANYONE??
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:59 pm

When unions are criminal, only criminals will have unions (called monopolies, cartels, restraint of trade). There's nothing wrong with wanting a predictable schedule and income. I don't think those restaurant workers are happy about their unpaid day off either.
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:11 pm

Diver52 wrote: There's nothing wrong with wanting a predictable schedule and income.
While that is true, the individuals also have to recognize that their profession is being replaced by automation. Fans everywhere, except maybe the Kentucky Derby and DelMar's opening day are embracing either the ATMs located throughout the plant or their favorite ADW platform on their cellphone.

In a warped sense of way, I'm kinda LOL that discontent with the human tellers will lead some patrons to wager through somebody like TVG......and what happens then.....DelMar doesn't get as big o' piece of the pie and everybody except for Todd Shrupp is unhappy!

I think that's called shooting yourself in the foot MR. Union boss.
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:31 pm

It is the state of the UNIONS in California - GET RID OF THEM.....

Perhaps a little light reading on what it was like for American workers before they had unions would be in order? :roll:
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:45 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Perhaps a little light reading on what it was like for American workers before they had unions would be in order? :roll:
What year are you directing me too, I will read up, promise!

Just one question for you.....do you think we as a society in America would roll back in time without unions today like the Local 280, California's Pari-Mutuel Employees Guild?
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do you think we as a society in America would roll back in time without unions today like the Local 280....

With the loss of just that one union? Of course not.
What worries me is that there seems to be a lot of chipping away at unions across the country. When it becomes a lot more than 'just one union,' then IMHO workers could see important safeguards rolled back by employers who will have fewer obstacles to treating employees like the proverbial dirt. :? :(
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:47 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: When it becomes a lot more than 'just one union,' then IMHO workers could see important safeguards rolled back by employers who will have fewer obstacles to treating employees like the proverbial dirt. :? :(
I want to be very careful as I know the house rules call for no politics, but it seems like a pretty slow time right now, if anybody objects I will hit delete!

Curious about two big unions in particular....auto workers and teachers.
Do you really think those employees would be treated like dirt without representation?

And back to the original convo, the tellers..... I think they are on a par with tellers at Bank of America. I think the latter makes about $12 an hour with marginal benefits. How do you think that compares with a tenured teller at Del Mar, I'll guess they make at least double that of the BofA teller, no?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:21 pm

stark wrote: Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the overnight listing linked above, extra race 8 for the following day.....
ain't never seen any condition quite like that!!!

X8 EXTRA RACE NO 8 MAIDEN CLAIMING
Purse $43,000. For Maidens, Two Years Old.
Weight 120 lbs.
CLAIMING PRICE $150,000
FIVE FURLONGS
Well, it doesn't look like they used the race on Thursday, but it begs the question....
Is $150,000 claiming price the highest you've ever seen?

What kind of 2YOs would you expect to see, slow well bred first timers?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:30 pm

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Unheralded Midwest-based conditioner Victoria Oliver is an excellent under the radar trainer with a strong flat bet profit the last five summers @DelMarRacing as she's 4-14 with those four winners paying $23.60, $20.40, $20.20 and $15.20. She's got Pastime in R3 this Thursday.
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:44 pm

stark wrote:
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: When it becomes a lot more than 'just one union,' then IMHO workers could see important safeguards rolled back by employers who will have fewer obstacles to treating employees like the proverbial dirt. :? :(
I want to be very careful as I know the house rules call for no politics, but it seems like a pretty slow time right now, if anybody objects I will hit delete!

Curious about two big unions in particular....auto workers and teachers.
Do you really think those employees would be treated like dirt without representation?

And back to the original convo, the tellers..... I think they are on a par with tellers at Bank of America. I think the latter makes about $12 an hour with marginal benefits. How do you think that compares with a tenured teller at Del Mar, I'll guess they make at least double that of the BofA teller, no?
Teachers aren’t exactly treated with overriding reverence with representation. I’d pick another example.
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Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:57 pm

Put kindly, the photographers' agreement as it currently sits is a joke.

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Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:03 pm

Regarding that little cheap claiming race :roll: , does Bob need to get rid of a turtle or two?
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Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:22 pm

Nice to see that the pari-mutual clerks agreed to come to work.
Nice to see big full fields.
Nice to hear TrevorDenman again.
Nice to see typical guys tweet o' the day. ;) https://twitter.com/Quigleys_Corner/sta ... 4210574336
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:47 am

stark wrote:
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: When it becomes a lot more than 'just one union,' then IMHO workers could see important safeguards rolled back by employers who will have fewer obstacles to treating employees like the proverbial dirt. :? :(
I want to be very careful as I know the house rules call for no politics, but it seems like a pretty slow time right now, if anybody objects I will hit delete!

Curious about two big unions in particular....auto workers and teachers.
Do you really think those employees would be treated like dirt without representation?

And back to the original convo, the tellers..... I think they are on a par with tellers at Bank of America. I think the latter makes about $12 an hour with marginal benefits. How do you think that compares with a tenured teller at Del Mar, I'll guess they make at least double that of the BofA teller, no?
what about tips. I tip if I hit a IRS ticket ---to the teller who cash the ticket and the one who sold me the ticket.
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Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:54 am

BigDonOKC wrote: what about tips. I tip if I hit a IRS ticket ---to the teller who cash the ticket and the one who sold me the ticket.
If it makes you feel better, if you think there's some sort of good luck karma attached, go for it, there's no reason not to be generous.

Just please don't confuse these folks with minimum wage earners in the gambling world who depend on tips to supplement a meager salary, such as card dealers, slot attendants, valet parking, bellhops, room maids etc. on your next trip to the casino.

Personally, I got such a bad vibe back in the day from a few racetrack clerks who would habitually slow-pay my coins, let's say I was collecting $40.80, I would be more than happy to tip the 80 cents, but when it was like pulling teeth that they always accidentally forgot to give it to me, it was sort of a pet peeve with me, no bueno.

As for IRS signers, haven't had to worry about that since the tax law change, thank goodness.
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Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:02 pm

Wednesday July 25th
Race 7
Cougarll Grade3
Mile&OneHalf

1 Twentytwentyvision (KY) 7/G L T Baze 118 J W Sadler
2 Unapologetic (KY) 5/G L M E Smith 118 W Spawr
3 Little Scotty (KY) 5/G L A Espinoza 116 V Cerin
4 Hoppertunity (KY) 7/H L F Prat 125 B Baffert
5 Full of Luck (CHI) 5/H L K J Desormeaux 119 J Hollendorfer
6 Deal With It Dude (FL) 4/G L D Van Dyke 115 M W McCarthy
7 Prince of Arabia (KY) 5/H L S Elliott 119 J M Cassidy
8 Beach View (MD) 5/H L R Bejarano 116 L Powell
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:06 pm

Sunday July 22
Race 8
Eddie Read Grade ll
Mile&OneEighth on turf

1 True Valour (IRE) 4/C J P Spencer 120 J P Murtagh 15/1
2 Next Shares (KY) 5/G L R Bejarano 120 R Baltas 8/1
3 Flamboyant (FR) 7/G L B Blanc 120 P Gallagher 20/1
4 Bowies Hero (KY) 4/C L C S Nakatani 124 P D'Amato 8/1
5 Sharp Samurai (KY) 4/G L G L Stevens 120 M Glatt 7/2
6 Catapult (KY) 5/H L D Van Dyke 120 J W Sadler 15/1
7 Hunt (IRE) 6/G L F Prat 124 P D'Amato 3/1
8 Multiplier (KY) 4/C L V Espinoza 120 P Miller 20/1
9 Itsinthepost (FR) 6/G L T Baze 122 J Mullins 5/2
10 Prime Attraction (KY) 5/H L K J Desormeaux 120 J M Cassidy 20/1
11 Fashion Business (GB) Owner Link 4/G L J Talamo 120 P D'Amato 15/1
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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