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    Epiphany
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    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Horsebagger View Post
    So, the owner's explanation is that he thinks the mare prefers it there?

    comical.
    I think it is nice that he wants her near and since he can well afford to ship her in style (I assume he will fly her) and she does ship well, and he feels better knowing how she is cared for everyday at his own farm, makes sense to me.

    I can tell you that Ann Moss gave this scenario serious consideration for Zenyatta, down to buying her a CA farm. She was talked out of it, and I don't think it would be appropriate for Z's large size and temperament.

    He could always change his mind, too, but in all my years I have yet to find a boarding farm of any kind and any rate do things the way I'd like them done myself. She is his million dollar plus toy.

    Mares are flown late in term all over the world, not that I am a fan of it, but just sayin'...

  2. #42

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Epiphany View Post
    I think it is nice that he wants her near and since he can well afford to ship her in style (I assume he will fly her) and she does ship well, and he feels better knowing how she is cared for everyday at his own farm, makes sense to me.

    I can tell you that Ann Moss gave this scenario serious consideration for Zenyatta, down to buying her a CA farm. She was talked out of it, and I don't think it would be appropriate for Z's large size and temperament.

    He could always change his mind, too, but in all my years I have yet to find a boarding farm of any kind and any rate do things the way I'd like them done myself. She is his million dollar plus toy.

    Mares are flown late in term all over the world, not that I am a fan of it, but just sayin'...
    Not taking issue with anything you said. But that's not what HE said according to another poster. He's projecting human and personal emotions on the mare when he can't legitimately draw those conclusions yet. If he would have said "I am attached to her, I paid a lot for her and I want her as near to me as possible as often as possible", I would not have called it comical.

  3. #43

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Epiphany View Post
    I think it is nice that he wants her near and since he can well afford to ship her in style (I assume he will fly her) and she does ship well, and he feels better knowing how she is cared for everyday at his own farm, makes sense to me.

    I can tell you that Ann Moss gave this scenario serious consideration for Zenyatta, down to buying her a CA farm. She was talked out of it, and I don't think it would be appropriate for Z's large size and temperament.

    He could always change his mind, too, but in all my years I have yet to find a boarding farm of any kind and any rate do things the way I'd like them done myself. She is his million dollar plus toy.

    Mares are flown late in term all over the world, not that I am a fan of it, but just sayin'...
    I am not at all familiar with boarding farms. But if that is the case, I can buy the risk of shipping her. I just can't see the WA bred angle for such a potentially valuable foal. Wouldn't you prefer Ca, NY or Kentucky bred conditions.
    Everyone come home sound

  4. #44

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Horsebagger View Post
    Not taking issue with anything you said. But that's not what HE said according to another poster. He's projecting human and personal emotions on the mare when he can't legitimately draw those conclusions yet. If he would have said "I am attached to her, I paid a lot for her and I want her as near to me as possible as often as possible", I would not have called it comical.
    well, i thought it would be obvious to all what he meant and it wasn't that he thought his horse cares where she lives. i took it to mean that he has a state of the art facility and doesn't see any point in leaving her in kentucky for a year. i am the one who said that she would be the star at his place and that might not even be true considering some of the horses that pass thru on rehab

  5. #45

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Well said, drjohnh.

    If some of you actually saw the place - or toured it extensively as many of us have - you would not be so dismissive. I guarantee it.

  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forego View Post
    Both my come-from-behind girls bred to Bernardini... I approve!

    We heard the news from Mark Dedomenico himself at Blind Luck's Meet & Greet at Pegasus Farms this afternoon. Snow kept the attendance down (most of Puget Sound freaks out at the sight of a snowflake) but it was great to meet Blind Luck and her connections and hear her news. She will be off to Kentucky to be bred and then come back to Pegasus here in WA to foal out...

    I'll upload a few pics taken on my crappy cell phone... my friend with the decent camera bailed out when it started to snow heavily...

    There must have been another TCH poster there with a camera... yes? No?

    Come on, PNWers - help me out!
    I was there with my cameras, I'll see if I have some good pics to share

  7. #47

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Epiphany View Post

    I can tell you that Ann Moss gave this scenario serious consideration for Zenyatta, down to buying her a CA farm. She was talked out of it, and I don't think it would be appropriate for Z's large size and temperament.
    Wouldn't Z have been happier in CA with her family and fans? I don't get her being in KY, actually. Why is she better off there than in CA, with great weather and her own farm?

  8. #48

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    I'm excited for blind luck's first foal

  9. #49
    Epiphany
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    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by EquineAnne View Post
    Wouldn't Z have been happier in CA with her family and fans? I don't get her being in KY, actually. Why is she better off there than in CA, with great weather and her own farm?
    Because the risk of shipping her back and forth is not worth it and it is stressful for them. It is better to let her be a horse as much as possible. Fans visiting her is not good for her, either, it is just a bio security risk. She gets gobs of attention and inside visitors, though.

    She is a big mare and maintaining her health -- while heavy with foal - is not to be taken lightly. And the Mosses don't ALREADY own one of the top rehab farms outside of KY.

    She is in the heart of lush horse country, with the best vet care in the world, a refined mare care program that is tried and tested, the best limestone infused grass (something lacking in CA), and frankly, a light KY winter this year so far, and very consistent care. She also has David Ingordo, Dottie's son and the bloodstock guy who picked her out at the Kee Sale. supervising her like his own child, as he works at Lane's End.

    I would never be a fan of Z flying back and forth. Ultimately each owner has to decide what is best for their special once in a lifetime horse and him or her self. Ann's initial thoughts on the matter were about emotional attachment, and in the end she did what worked for her mare and herself.

  10. #50

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Nice.

  11. #51

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Luckiernini! Happy for her.
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  12. #52

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Epiphany View Post
    I would never be a fan of Z flying back and forth.
    Neither would I. It was clear that she didn't ship that great while racing, I couldn't imagine her shipping that much once retired and in the broodmare life.

    They chose a perfect place in Lane's End.
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  13. #53

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Epiphany View Post
    They often go together.

  14. #54
    Epiphany
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    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Most horses, like humans, are imperfect. Horsemen don't look for pretty they look for good conformation as it relates historically to mechanical function of stride and how a horse moves in general, which if it all fits together well, tends to reduce the chance of stress and injury to said horse at high speed.

    Obviously some are more of the "pretty is as pretty does" variety.

    But it is a rare person that would look to breed ill conformed ugly and hope it stays sound.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Woodford View Post

  15. #55

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick1323 View Post
    I am not at all familiar with boarding farms. But if that is the case, I can buy the risk of shipping her. I just can't see the WA bred angle for such a potentially valuable foal. Wouldn't you prefer Ca, NY or Kentucky bred conditions.
    I could be wrong, but I think it might mean he is planning to keep the foal.

  16. #56

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Woodford View Post
    What a homely lookin' thing he was, that John. Who knew...?
    Animal Kingdom, Eblouissante, Amazombie, Somali Lemonade, Royal Delta,
    Archwarrior, Flashy Gray, Antonia Autumn, Verrazano, Mr Commons, Midnight Lucky
    2012 Thoroughbred In Memoriam
    Once upon a time there was a horse named Kelso. But only once. ~ Joe Hirsch

  17. #57

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Lest we forget why she sold for $11K. ;-)

    First rule: Try always to do what's right for the horse. The people part will work out. -- Josh Pons, Merryland, 2007

  18. #58

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by GinTalking View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think it might mean he is planning to keep the foal.
    Of course, but I think he is also not planning on running in any state bred races anywhere.
    Everyone come home sound

  19. #59

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick1323 View Post
    Of course, but I think he is also not planning on running in any state bred races anywhere.
    Agree. Clearly he is shooting for the moon and hoping for some more fun on the track.

  20. #60

    Re: Blind Luck to be Bred to Bernardini!

    One of the major WA breeders sends at least one mare to be bred to a KY stallion every year - but all their babies are registered as WA-bred. So apparently they are foaling here, or saying that they are. It's not like it's never been done.

    Pegasus is nicer than just about anything in KY. He can afford the shipping. Don't see a problem with it. She's traveled more and farther before...
    "The horse. Here is nobility without conceit, friendship without envy, beauty without vanity. A willing servant, yet never a slave." - Ronald Duncan

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