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    Empire Maker

    Isnt there anyone with deep enough pockets to get this horse back home? Come on, Ill kick in a couple of hundred, lets get him back.

    Between him and Forty Niner, really a huge loss to our breeding industry.

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    Re: Empire Maker

    Ha! I'd send half the broodmare band to him at this point.
    Nobody said giving Kirstie Alley a colonic would be easy.

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    Re: Empire Maker

    Maybe Darley or Coolmore, but I doubt they would.

    I wish he was still here. ::sigh:: Our loss was their gain, on both him and Forty Niner.
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    Re: Empire Maker

    we keep sending our best stock to other countries. no wonder we're falling behind.

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    Epiphany
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    Re: Empire Maker

    I doubt he is for sale for any price now. But I would have said that before, too.

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    Re: Empire Maker

    Quote Originally Posted by sweettalk View Post
    we keep sending our best stock to other countries. no wonder we're falling behind.
    Yep and it'll bite us in the butt...real soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epiphany View Post
    I doubt he is for sale for any price now. But I would have said that before, too.
    That was what I was going to say. I believe the depth of the pockets isn't the issue--he simply is not for sale.

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    Re: Empire Maker

    You know, just because he's a leading sire here, doesnt mean he will be there. Very different mare population, and it might not be what he needs. Look at the dam sire line of his best horses here,
    Acoma (Danzig), Country Star (Metfield), Grace Hall (Ezzoud (IRE), Icon Project (Lord at War), Magical Feeling (Forestry), Mushka (Seeking the Gold), Pioneer (Lord at War), Royal Delta (AP Indy). Maybe he does best with our speedier mare population.

    Maybe they will just hate him and send him home.....

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    Re: Empire Maker

    Interestingly enough, the Japanese were actively pursuing every Empire Maker with earnest at the 2 yo in training sales. Save us some!
    Nobody said giving Kirstie Alley a colonic would be easy.

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    Epiphany
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    Re: Empire Maker

    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    You know, just because he's a leading sire here, doesnt mean he will be there. Very different mare population, and it might not be what he needs. Look at the dam sire line of his best horses here,
    Acoma (Danzig), Country Star (Metfield), Grace Hall (Ezzoud (IRE), Icon Project (Lord at War), Magical Feeling (Forestry), Mushka (Seeking the Gold), Pioneer (Lord at War), Royal Delta (AP Indy). Maybe he does best with our speedier mare population.

    Maybe they will just hate him and send him home.....
    LOL Halo. Did you just make a suggestion to them on purchases to make in November?

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    Re: Empire Maker

    His strike rate with Lord At War mares (granted, with very GOOD LAT mares) is amazing. Five of racing age, 2 G1 winners and a stakes placed winner.

    They might be old, but I'd be buying them all up and running to him if I were his Japanese interests.
    Nobody said giving Kirstie Alley a colonic would be easy.

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    I saw EM up close and personal in NY...Wood M, especially... and in the Belmont S.

    Impressive, good looking, tall, rangly horse with "alot of scope" as a 3yr old when I saw him. I bet he has filled out and will probably sire distance horses both on dirt and turf. Big loss.

    He'll become "the new SS".

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    Re: Empire Maker

    I know this is off topic, but how is his daughter, Country Star doing?
    I wanted to track her babies, but I haven't found any records.

  14. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimmieB View Post
    I know this is off topic, but how is his daughter, Country Star doing?
    I wanted to track her babies, but I haven't found any records.
    She was exported. I'm not sure where to though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    She was exported. I'm not sure where to though.
    Thank you! That explains the lack of news.

  16. #16

    Re: Empire Maker

    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    She was exported. I'm not sure where to though.
    Japan maybe?

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    Epiphany
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    Re: Empire Maker

    If she is still a Darley mare, she is likely in Ireland or England if exported. But I suppose Japan is possible, too, since they have an operation there, too.

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    Re: Empire Maker

    I'd lean toward Japan, she has no foals listed with the Jockey Club. Foals that are born in England and Ireland are listed with the US Jockey Club the year after they are foaled. However, she could just be a hard luck mare.

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    Re: Empire Maker

    Country Star doesn't show up in the Japanese Studbook as an imported mare. I think she is in the UK or Ireland.

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    Skywalker
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    Re: Empire Maker

    Exactly what has Empire Maker done this year on the TC trail?

    Not much.

    Empire Way, dud

    Exothermic, injured

    Bodemeister- yet to jump to the top
    Last edited by Skywalker; 04-01-2012 at 04:46 PM.

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