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Thread: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

  1. #21

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Ha! Odds of something like this happening here? Nil.

    The dramatic impact that the unbeaten mare has on the sporting landscape will be further underlined when the AFL concedes to a request to have the starting time of the Adelaide-Geelong match on Saturday week altered so football fans can see the champion mare have her last Australian start before leaving for England.


    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horse...#ixzz1tTKhzs3d
    First rule: Try always to do what's right for the horse. The people part will work out. -- Josh Pons, Merryland, 2007

  2. #22

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by LifeAtZen View Post
    Thanks, I wasn't watching the race very closely as I was in the middle of something else at the time, so I didn't catch that.
    No prob

  3. #23

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    This cracked me up!

    @mmmhotbreakfast: Peter Moody confirmed that the vehicle taking @blackcaviar2006 to Adelaide was done for speeding in Stawell.

    (@ about 3:30 pm)
    First rule: Try always to do what's right for the horse. The people part will work out. -- Josh Pons, Merryland, 2007

  4. #24

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Anyone else think BC is the greatest mare of the past decade...or several decades?

  5. #25
    Epiphany
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    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingFilly View Post
    Anyone else think BC is the greatest mare of the past decade...or several decades?
    I think Victoria does based on the odds her competition goes off at, but the rest of us are holding reservations til we see a bit more.

  6. #26

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingFilly View Post
    Anyone else think BC is the greatest mare of the past decade...or several decades?
    I find it hard to compare, but she moves so effortlessly and is so handy.
    I can't think of many better than her.

  7. #27

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    What about:

    * Makybe Diva
    * Sunline
    * Zarkava

  8. #28

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Australia Post has issued a beautiful set of commemorative stamps to celebrate her 20 victories. Pack includes lovely photo:






    http://www.stampland.net/?p=7311
    First rule: Try always to do what's right for the horse. The people part will work out. -- Josh Pons, Merryland, 2007

  9. #29

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by doriemus View Post
    What about:

    * Makybe Diva
    * Sunline
    * Zarkava
    I didn't know Sunline or Zarkava, but I'd agree with you on Makybe Diva. But she wasn't a sprinter.

  10. #30

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Song of Solomon View Post
    Ha! I can only say she's the best turf sprinter I've ever seen (though, granted, I'd be hard pressed to name another turf sprinter).

    I can't make heads or tails of foreign turf runners. It's almost as different to our racing as quarter horse racing. The 2000 Guineas is a perfect example when you compare it to our Derby. About half the field in the Guineas were making their first start of the year, with all the others making their second start. The horse named their favorite was making his first start since last Oct and only his 3rd career start, yet there he was first at the wire. What do they have to make this horse correctly the favorite?
    Then the following day in the 1000 Guineas the short price favorite (who was making her first start of the year) was well beaten by 10L (a huge distance of turf), by her 25/1 stablemate who was making her 3rd start of the year and 14th career start (13/3-1-2 coming into the race), who romped home in uber impressive fashion.
    Ya just never know. I guess that's why they run the races.

  11. #31

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    I hope she wins. But far, far more important, I hope she comes back home safely.

  12. #32

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    She has a following like we will never see stateside. We came close with Z, but there will never be anything like Black Caviar.

  13. #33
    Skywalker
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    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by bare it all View Post
    She has a following like we will never see stateside. We came close with Z, but there will never be anything like Black Caviar.
    I disagree. It has never happened before, but if a filly were win the triple crown (which has never been done before), she would be just as big, especially if she had a good story and name behind her.

    Let's say a Ruffian type came around and won the TC, because of the way social media works today, her effort to win the Triple Crown in the Belmont would get more attention than anything imaginable. You probably would be looking at 250,000 trying to get into Belmont Park (which it simply couldn't hold) and the country would come to a stand still.

    A colt doing it, no, but a filly winning the TC, would probably have 1 in every 2 tv sets in America tuning in.

  14. #34

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Rachel Alexandra was the filly had she run in the Derby. The Preakness would have been a gimme, and she wouldn't have faced a full gate in either the Preakness or the Belmont.

  15. #35

    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker View Post
    I disagree. It has never happened before, but if a filly were win the triple crown (which has never been done before), she would be just as big, especially if she had a good story and name behind her.

    Let's say a Ruffian type came around and won the TC, because of the way social media works today, her effort to win the Triple Crown in the Belmont would get more attention than anything imaginable. You probably would be looking at 250,000 trying to get into Belmont Park (which it simply couldn't hold) and the country would come to a stand still.

    A colt doing it, no, but a filly winning the TC, would probably have 1 in every 2 tv sets in America tuning in.

    I'd like to think that, but then we would listen and read about what nags she was beating. How she was slow beating slow horses. Then we would have the doomsday group talking how racing is doomed. PETA protesting at every turn.

    We will never have what oz has - admiration for the horse, her jock, the connections. The sport itself. This will never happen in America. Ever.

  16. #36
    Skywalker
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    Re: 20/20 Vision: Can Black Caviar do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whos the Cowboy View Post
    Rachel Alexandra was the filly had she run in the Derby. The Preakness would have been a gimme, and she wouldn't have faced a full gate in either the Preakness or the Belmont.
    Rachel Alexandra could never have won the Belmont and highly doubtful the Derby. She couldn't even get 10f as a 4yr old. She simply was nothing special once you got to to 10f distances. In fact, I think the Preakness proved she would not have been able to even beat Mine That Bird at 10f. 12f, no way.

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