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  1. #1261

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Thanks for the link!

    The other day, a commentator in a local TV program 'World Racing' said: 'Too many telephone inquires about DI to cope with has been rushing in Shadai from abroad.'

    Interesting is the following line in the article:
    'We can also note the combination of Halo and the similarly-bred Sir Ivor (broodmare sire of Alzao) 2x4,...Deep Impact has already begun to prove very effective when bred back over Northern Dancer line mares...Northern Dancer/Sir Ivor cross, might also go well here.'

    Interesting because that is one of the points for a successful breeding with DI to which some bloodstock critics in Japan, such as Mr Motomu Kuriyama (http://www.miesque.com/motomu/), has been repeatedly referring.

    Other examples are:
    'Mares with Caerleon in their dam's side have been successfully bred to DI; this is 'a sure thing', illustrated by, for example, Joie de Vivre, Tosen Reve, Danon Shark, Para la Salud, and etc. Other than that, French Deputy and Vaguely Noble are well-matched with DI. These may be called successful formulae.

    Also mares having Glorious Song, Devil's Bag, Angelic Song, and Saint Ballado get on well with DI, as seen in horses like Danon Ballade, Frere Jacques, Adam's Peak, and Vexina (all graded winners).'

    With Beauty Parlour:
    'Her 2nd sire Day is Done is packed with Round Table, Sir Gaylord, and Aureole that are well matched with DI. Also, she shares Artaius, Habitat, Aurelore≒Electric Flash with Marbye (dam of Marcellina, Jpn 1000 Guineas '08).'
    (From the bloodstock blog by Mr Motomu Kuriyama)
    The Select Sale this summer will be interesting to watch because Azeri's daughter by Zenno Rob Roy will come on the ring, and a full brother (yearling secession) as well as a full sister(foal secession) to Deep Brillante are listed by Paca Paca Farm of Dr Harry Sweeney. The foal reportedly looks exactly like the Jpn Derby winner.
    Last edited by Uma; 06-01-2012 at 06:54 PM.

  2. #1262

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyxa View Post
    Saonois is entered in two Gr2 in may on 2000/2200m and then in the Jockey Club (2100m).

    Here a photo of his victory in the Prix Policeman (LR 2000m).
    Aww.. Saonois(FR) wins the Prix du Jockey Club(G1).

    I am very happy for him and his sire Chichicastenango.
    It's really too bad he passed.

  3. #1263

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by tachyon View Post
    Aww.. Saonois(FR) wins the Prix du Jockey Club(G1).

    I am very happy for him and his sire Chichicastenango.
    It's really too bad he passed.
    It really is a shame about Chichicastenango, but hopefully Saonois and others will carry on the line. I feel like the filly out of Daiwa Scarlet surely has a bright future.

    Saonois shocks at 33-1 (with race replay)
    http://www.anddownthestretchtheycome...result-saonois

  4. #1264

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Yes, very good run of Saonois… and Saint Baudolino too, who's second. Good day .

    Upper Lake, another son of Chichicastenango, won the last race. He is the brother of a horse I loved when I started to watch races, Kappelmann, who died on the track… so very very happy to see his little brother win this day.

    Beautiful story for Saonois, who ran last year a "claim" race (? don't know the right word…) but also for his young jockey, Antoine Hamelin, who has become a pro just on the 1st of april… and won his first Grade 1 race.


    Saint Baudolino (2°), Saonois (1°), Nutello (3°), Kesampour (4°), Top Trip (5°), and outside, Sir Jade (11°).


    Peer Gynt had his first runner on the 23 of may, Aurore Béré, but it wasn't very good. The 2yo filly finished far away from the winner.

  5. #1265

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Barocci (JPN)
    Your Comment: Deep Impact

    Date: June 13, 2012
    Track: Belmont Park

    Race: 3
    Distance: One And One Sixteenth Miles
    Surface: Turf
    Age: 3U
    Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
    Purse: $77,000
    Jockey: Julien R. Leparoux
    Trainer: Christophe Clement
    Last Raced: 05/13/2012 at BELMONT PARK in Race 7
    Finish Position: 2nd

    Woo Hoo!
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  6. #1266

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by Starine View Post
    It really is a shame about Chichicastenango, but hopefully Saonois and others will carry on the line. I feel like the filly out of Daiwa Scarlet surely has a bright future.
    Saonois shocks at 33-1 (with race replay)
    http://www.anddownthestretchtheycome...result-saonois

    Yes. Chichicastenango did get a very nice group of mares with support from the Shadai where he stood.
    His first Japanese-bred babies (2010 foals) whom are expected to make their debuts this year include;

    Admire Kimboshi(JPN) c : Chichicastenango(FR) x Promotion(JPN), by Hector Protector(USA) : 1/2 to Admire Main
    Cenote Lucita(JPN) f : Chichicastenango(FR) x Princess Lucita(JPN), by Sunday Silence(USA) : dam is 1/2 to Meisho Doto
    Daiwa Reine(JPN) f : Chichicastenango(FR) x Daiwa Scarlet(JPN) , by Agnes Tachyon(JPN) :
    Famille(JPN) c : Chichicastenango(FR) x Kiss to Heaven(JPN), by Sunday Silence(USA) :
    L'Alpe dHuez(JPN) c : Chichicastenango(FR) x Be Positive(JPN), by Sunday Silence(USA) : dam is full to To the Victory
    Man in the Moon(JPN) c : Chichicastenango(FR) x Dance in the Mood(JPN), by Sunday Silence(USA) :
    Pier Glass(JPN) f : Chichicastenango(FR) x Croupier Star(JPN), by Sunday Silence(USA) : 1/2 to Asakusa Kings
    Tenango(JPN) c : Chichicastenango(FR) x Fusaichi Mignon(JPN), by Sunday Silence(USA) : dam is 1/2 to Fusaichi Concorde, Unrivaled; full to Born King
    unnamed(JPN) f : Chichicastenango(FR) x Great Sunrise(GB), by Caerleon(USA) : 1/2 to Red Desire
    unnamed(JPN) f : Chichicastenango(FR) x My Vivien(JPN), by Dancing Brave(USA) : 1/2 to Meisho Samson


    I look forward to seeing them.
    Last edited by tachyon; 06-08-2012 at 08:47 PM.

  7. #1267

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyxa View Post
    Yes, very good run of Saonois… and Saint Baudolino too, who's second. Good day .

    Upper Lake, another son of Chichicastenango, won the last race. He is the brother of a horse I loved when I started to watch races, Kappelmann, who died on the track… so very very happy to see his little brother win this day.

    Beautiful story for Saonois, who ran last year a "claim" race (? don't know the right word…) but also for his young jockey, Antoine Hamelin, who has become a pro just on the 1st of april… and won his first Grade 1 race.


    Saint Baudolino (2°), Saonois (1°), Nutello (3°), Kesampour (4°), Top Trip (5°), and outside, Sir Jade (11°).


    Peer Gynt had his first runner on the 23 of may, Aurore Béré, but it wasn't very good. The 2yo filly finished far away from the winner.
    Yes, that's indeed a beautiful story for Saonois(FR).
    It also looks like that Chichicastenango is capable of upgrading his mares.
    And I was glad that Saint Baudolino(IRE), Pivotal(GB) x Alessandoria(GB) by Sunday Silence(USA), did well, too.
    Wasn't that the happiest exacta in the French Derby one could imagine?

    Finally, I hope that Peer Gynt will sire his first winner soon.

  8. #1268

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    She is not a stallion.
    Still I would like to post her achievement in this thread....

    Biwa Heidi(JPN), 1993M. Caerleon(USA) x Aghsan(IRE) by Lord Gayle(USA), has become the first broodmare to produce five graded-stakes-winners in JRA.
    Her eighth foal Tosen Rave(JPN), 2008 colt by Deep Impact(JPN), scored his first graded victory in the G3 Epsom Cup 1800m turf at Tokyo today.


    1st. (#6) Tosen Reve(JPN) : Deep Impact(JPN) x Biwa Heidi(JPN) by Caerleon(USA)


    The other graded winners out of Biwa Heidi are:

    -- Admire Japan(JPN) : 2002H by Sunday Silence(USA)
    Winner in Yoyoi Sho(G3). Placed in Satsuki Sho(G1) and Japanese Derby(G1).
    Standing at Breeders Stallion Station.

    -- Admire Aura(JPN) : 2004H by Agnes Tachyon(JPN)
    Winner in Shinzan Kinen(G3), Yoyoi Sho(G2) and Kyoto Kinen(G2). Placed in Japanese Derby(G1).
    Standing at Yushun Stallion Station.

    -- Buena Vista(JPN) : 2006M by Special Week(JPN)
    Winner in Hanshin Juvenile Fillies(G1), Oka Sho(G1), Japanese Oaks(G1), Victoria Mile(G1), Tenno Sho Autumn(G1), Japan Cup(G1), Kyoto Kinen(G2) and Tulip Sho(G3). Placed in Dubai Sheema Classic(G1), Arima Kinen(G1)(twice), Takarazuka Kinen(G1)(twice), Shuka Sho(G1), QE2 Commemorative Cup(G1).
    Broodmare at Northern Farm.

    -- Joie de Vivre(JPN) : 2009F by Deep Impact(JPN)
    Winner in Hanshin Juvenile Fillies(G1).


    Biwa Heidi herself was a G1 winner and champion 2yo filly who defeated the great Air Groove(JPN), 1993M. Tony Bin(IRE) x Dyna Carle(JPN) by Norhtern Taste(CAN), in Hanshin Juvenile Fillies(G1)(formerly Hanshin Sansai Himba Stakes) in 1995.
    Air Groove has so far produced three graded-stakes-winners -- Admire Groove, Forgettable and Rulership.

    Both Biwa Heidi and Air Groove are at Katsumi Yoshida’s Northern Farm.
    Last edited by tachyon; 06-17-2012 at 01:49 AM.

  9. #1269

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by serenassong View Post
    Barocci (JPN)
    Your Comment: Deep Impact

    Date: June 13, 2012
    Track: Belmont Park

    Race: 3
    Distance: One And One Sixteenth Miles
    Surface: Turf
    Age: 3U
    Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
    Purse: $77,000
    Jockey: Julien R. Leparoux
    Trainer: Christophe Clement
    Last Raced: 05/13/2012 at BELMONT PARK in Race 7
    Finish Position: 2nd

    Woo Hoo!
    I can't stay up late tonight.
    But I will probably get good news when I wake up tomorrow morning.
    Go, Barocci!!

  10. #1270

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by tachyon View Post
    I can't stay up late tonight.
    But I will probably get good news when I wake up tomorrow morning.
    Go, Barocci!!
    Unfortunatley, all the turf races have been moved to the main track, so Barocci(JPN) did scratch, darn it!
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  11. #1271

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by serenassong View Post
    Unfortunatley, all the turf races have been moved to the main track, so Barocci(JPN) did scratch, darn it!
    Ugh.
    Turf races in the states are frequently moved to the main track, aren't they?
    But I guess that we can save the fun for later.

    And.. good luck to Howe Great on Saturday!!!! (hope it won't rain in NY!!)

  12. #1272

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by tachyon View Post
    And.. good luck to Howe Great on Saturday!!!! (hope it won't rain in NY!!)
    You'd be surprised... Belmont has kept races on its turf course even when it's a complete bog.

  13. #1273

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Howe Great (Hat Trick) finished 2nd in the G3 Hill Prince at Belmont.

    I would have preferred a win.
    But he carried top weight and gave the winner Summer Front 3lb.
    I hope he will continue to do well.

    Go, Howe Great!!

  14. #1274

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by tachyon View Post
    ---------
    Biwa Heidi herself was a G1 winner and champion 2yo filly who defeated the great Air Groove(JPN), 1993M. Tony Bin(IRE) x Dyna Carle(JPN) by Norhtern Taste(CAN), in Hanshin Juvenile Fillies(G1)(formerly Hanshin Sansai Himba Stakes) in 1995.
    Air Groove has so far produced three graded-stakes-winners -- Admire Groove, Forgettable and Rulership.

    Both Biwa Heidi and Air Groove are at Katsumi Yoshida’s Northern Farm.
    And today, Air Groove(JPN), 1993M. Tony Bin(IRE) x Dyna Carle(JPN) by Norhtern Taste(CAN), produced her fourth graded-stakes-winner, as her ninth foal Gullveig(JPN), 2008F by Deep Impact, scored her first graded victory in the G3 Mermaid Stakes 2000m turf at Hanshin .


    1st. (#3) Gullveig(JPN): 2008F. Deep Impact(JPN) x Air Groove(JPN) by Tony Bin(IRE)

    The other graded winners out of Air Groove are;

    -- Admire Groove(JPN) : 2000M by Sunday Silence(USA)
    Winner in QE2 Commemorative Cup(G1)(twice), Rose Stakes(G2), Hanshin Himba Stakes(G2) and Mermaid Stakes(G3). Placed in Oka Sho(G1), Shuka Sho(G1) , QE2 Commemorative Cup(G1) and Tenno Sho Autumn(G1).
    Broodmare at Northern Farm

    -- Forgettable(JPN) : 2006H by Dance in the Dark(JPN)
    Winner in Stayers Stakes(G2) and Diamond Stakes(G3). Placed in Kukuka Sho(G1).
    In training.

    -- Rulership(JPN) : 2007H by King Kamehameha(JPN)
    Winner in QE2 Cup(G1, Hong Kong), AJCC(G2),Kinko Sho(G2), Nikkei Shinshun Hai(G2) and Naruo Kinen(G3)
    In training.

    Air Groove herself was a legendary runner who was awarded the Horse of the Year in 1997. She won Oaks(G1), Tenno Sho Autumn(G1), Osaka Hai(G2), Sapporo Kine(G2)(twice), Mermaid Stakes(G3) and Tulip Sho(G3). She also runnered-up in the Japan Cup (twice, 1997 and 1998).


    The rivalry between the two great mares of the same age keeps going!!

  15. #1275

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Roses in May(USA) sired his second graded-stakes-winner, when Dream Valentino(JPN) H5, out of Cosmo Valenti(JPN) by Meiner Love(USA), won the Hakodate Sprint Stakes(G3) 1200m turf at Hakodate yesterday, which was his third consecutive stakes win. And he defeated Lord Kanaloa, grandson of Saratoga Dew and one of the best sprinters of the country.

    Dream Valentino could now be seen as one of the top contenders for the G1 Sprinters Stakes in September, along with Lord Kanaloa(C4) and Curren Chan(F4).

    Hakodate Sprint Stakes (G3) 1200m turf (firm), Hakodate Racecourse, June 16. 2012

    1st. (#2) Dream Valentino(JPN) H5. Roses in May x Cosmo Valenti(Meiner Love x Ibuki Roman)
    2nd. (#1) Lord Kanaloa(JPN) C4. King Kamehameha x Lady Blossom(Storm Cat x Saratoga Dew)
    Last edited by tachyon; 06-18-2012 at 06:35 AM.

  16. #1276

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Lets try this again:
    Barocci (JPN)
    Your Comment: Deep Impact

    Date: June 20, 2012
    Track: Belmont Park

    Race: 8
    Distance: One And One Fourth Miles
    Surface: Turf
    Age: 3U
    Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
    Purse: $77,000
    Jockey: Julien R. Leparoux
    Trainer: Christophe Clement
    Last Raced: 05/13/2012 at BELMONT PARK in Race 7
    Finish Position: 2nd

    Turf course should be fine, but it is supposed to be very hot that day.
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  17. #1277

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Summer Front deserves to win, what he did, really, i'm impressed ! Sad for Howe Great, but it's a good second place.

    And about Barocci (hope he will be fine tomorow), his sister Beauty Parlour didn't win the Prix de Diane (GrI fillies 3yo 2100m), but finished 2 behind Valyra.



    Valyra only ran two times before the Diane, and not any stakes. But she is trained by Jean-Claude Rouget, who already won this race with Stacelita

    Just one photo for pleasure.

  18. #1278

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Thanks for local information, Lyxa!

    I suppose many racing fans in Japan watched the Prix de Diane live via the Net, and were chagrined at the result! Glad she managed to stay when other front-runners suffered from the pace in the first half.

    Many Deep Impacts in Japan were first said to be milers because they've been extremely good around the distance. Some still argue for that, and yet his progeny started to stay if well harnessed, which might be rather difficult due to their inherited urge to go faster; the sire was basically 'a speed horse.' (Katsumi Yoshida, Northern Farm)

    Anyway, truly surprising was that grandchildren by Sunday Silence, such as Dabirsim and BP, remarkably succeeded from a few crops in France. Hope they stay in trainining safe and sound.

  19. #1279

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Thanks Lyxa for the update.
    It was a shame that Beauty Parlour couldn't live up to favorism.
    But she did show her class and was very game (I wonder if Soumillon took over the lead a little bit too early...??).
    I believe that Beauty Parlour will win a few more G1s at least.

  20. #1280

    Re: Japanese Stallions

    Quote Originally Posted by serenassong View Post
    Lets try this again:
    Barocci (JPN)
    Your Comment: Deep Impact

    Date: June 20, 2012
    Track: Belmont Park

    Race: 8
    Distance: One And One Fourth Miles
    Surface: Turf
    Age: 3U
    Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
    Purse: $77,000
    Jockey: Julien R. Leparoux
    Trainer: Christophe Clement
    Last Raced: 05/13/2012 at BELMONT PARK in Race 7
    Finish Position: 2nd

    Turf course should be fine, but it is supposed to be very hot that day.
    Go Barocci!!

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