Arlington did not offer to run the meet under the terms of the 2011 contract.Originally Posted by equine
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...rts/705029955/
Arlington did not offer to run the meet under the terms of the 2011 contract.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...rts/705029955/
It appears that there are 57 entries for the 10 AP races on Saturday (Derby Day), and it is unofficially estimated that if there is no agreement by then, maybe 20 of the 57 will scratch.
Correction: There are nine races Saturday, not ten.
Last edited by Vic in Chicago; 05-02-2012 at 02:04 PM.
There are reports circulating in Chicago (unconfirmed) that a deal is being finalized tonight, to be announced tomorrow.
Presumably, the 20% purse reductions will be rolled back, and the CD feed will be opened up into Illinois so the tracks here can accept wagering on the Derby. Presumably, and hopefully, all the other issues are being resolved as well.
However, Arlington will still be stuck with crappy fields for opening weekend. (And hopefully the Horsemen's solidarity will have proved a point to CDI.)
They better have an agreement, because the CA simulcasts are about to be pulled, too!
Thanks for posting the link. I read the original in ARL.s press release.
Heard a rumor NY is also considering blocking their signal to ARL as well.
There's a lot of links on barn to wire as well.
"I believe that this year we are either going to make or break the entire Illinois Racing Industry."
http://barrington.suntimes.com/news/...eady-pace.html
Yes, they did:
"Arlington did offer to run the meet under the 2011 agreement while the two sides continue to negotiate, but the ITHA wasn't biting." (From your link.)
Marcus Hersh is reporting on Twitter that they've signed a 2012 contract. Signals should be okay for the weekend, but the cards for the first two days will still kinda suck. (Okay, the latter is my interpretation of what he actually wrote. ;-))
First rule: Try always to do what's right for the horse. The people part will work out. -- Josh Pons, Merryland, 2007
It is true that a deal has been reached.
http://www.barntowire.com/2012/APrelease120502.html
http://itharacing.com/weeklywhinnies...etaillist/MTgz
It is also true that Horesmen in California and NY were planning to pull their simulcasts from Illinois, seriously ratcheting up the pressure on AP.
One major development in this little soap opera was the effectiveness of the IL Horsemen in rallying Horsemen in other states to their cause. Going forward, that's certainly a game-changer in IL, and potentially other states. Hopefully it will give CDI (and perhaps other entities) pause before they try to unfairly bully the Horsemen again.
For the folks still a little confused on exactly what the whole dust-up was all about, Neil Milbert wrote a piece in the Tribune last night that explained it pretty well.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,7358399.story
Bottom line: AP will be open for business pretty much as usual Friday except for extremely short fields Friday and Saturday. (In hindsight, they should have delayed Saturday's entries for one day - until today.) Sunday's fields should be very full. Plus, they will have all simulcasts this weekend.
More details of the new contract should be revealed today, but it kind of feels like, relatively speaking, a win for the Horsemen. Due in large part, I'm sure, to the solidarity shown by the Horsemen in other states. With the short fields in Chicago, and the potential loss of simulcasts from KY, NY, and CA, AP/CDI was faced with a devastating loss of product, so they finally came to the table.
It looks like you were correct and they did offer a 30-day continuation period, but that just so happened to cover the biggest betting days of the year. Sorry about that. It's confusing stuff, but I'm glad the horsemen stuck together and held off Arlington.
Last edited by gravano; 05-03-2012 at 07:44 AM.
It's never crashed on me all of the years I've been betting. This is the first year I'm heading to the track to watch and bet the Derby.
Have fun cheering on those Dorochenko horses!
What are Dorochenko horse?
Are the races always like this on Derby day? (allow, maiden claiming, claiming...) No wonder they have no business.
He's an unusual trainer who has an awful lot of entries. He had the longshot that won the La Derby, hero of order.
http://www.drf.com/news/arlington-tr...rnight-success
oh, that dude. The one who buys cheap horses and makes them expensive.
That really was the best line from the derby trail.
Grav, have you been there for the Derby? I've been to ARL for the Million but never the Derby. Is it as crowded as the Million? Any ideas the best time to go? I know it opens at 11am Saturday, but after looking at the card, I'm thinking, why?
And I have to ask, you're name isn't Dan, is it?
Interesting story on how and why the agreement was reached.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...rts/705039625/
So now that our friendly little intra-mural street brawl is resolved, it's full speed ahead for horse racing in Chicagoland! Hawthorne had a very good Spring Meeting...let's hope Arlington has a good Meeting also.
And speaking of Chicagoland, we'll be rooting for our local boy - Take Charge Indy - to bring home the Roses on Saturday. Now that the Oakster is retired, Giant Oak Nation is looking for a worthy successor. "Indy Nation" anyone?
Go Indy Go!
http://www.nwherald.com/2012/05/01/m...derby/apme26o/
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