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    Flower Alley

    How much does this help his career? He's been pretty spotty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    How much does this help his career? He's been pretty spotty.
    Well, they'll advertise the crap out of this win, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariasmon View Post
    Well, they'll advertise the crap out of this win, that's for sure.
    Just like they advertised Leroidesanimaux last year for his Derby winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolefromsimhorseracing View Post
    Just like they advertised Leroidesanimaux last year for his Derby winner.
    There's a difference. Leroi stands in FL not much advertising you can do there.

    Flower Alley stands at Three Chimneys who does a TON of advertising for their horses. Well I should actually say they used to, but this may get them back in the game.

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    Distorted Humor is a top sire...so Flower Alley should get some decent PR. Flower Allley was a very good race horse. Fast but not really a 1 1/4 mile horse who ran well in the TC races. Won Travers and earned 2.5M on track.

    Flower Alley might be a "bargain" compared to the 150k stud fee of his sire.
    He is already on the board with a Derby winner.

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    Epiphany
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    I'd guess he goes to 15k next year or knowing 3C's they try on 20k and then silently discount it. One hit wonders don't help unfashionable sires that much. But FA is BY Distorted Humor.

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    I would still send a mare to Leroidesanimaux before I would send one to Flower Alley, and I am in KY.

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    Flower Alley is a fairly young sire. I think his first crop consists of 4 year olds. Only approx 65 total runners so far total. He doesn't have a large volume of foals like some of the other new stallions.

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    I dont know where you pulled that number from. He's had 120 starters, 69 winners.

    4 crops
    267 foals
    3 crops of racing age
    203 foals of racing age

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    Re: Flower Alley

    So suppose you were Harvey Clarke and bought I'll Have Another's dam for $80,000 as a two year old, raced her (1 start, 1 win late in her 3yo year, earnings $25,800), paid $25,000 to breed her to Flower Alley and sold the subsequent Kentucky Derby winner as a yearling for $11,000 (for a net loss of mucho mucho money). Would you now breed the mare back to Flower Alley?

    I'm thinking I'd probably head to Distorted Humor.

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    She was bred last year to Midnight Lute. I certainly hope they do better by her this year. Distorted Humor is a great idea!

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    Don't forget that his best runner from his oldest crop was privately purchased and retired shortly after running poorly in the Kentucky Oaks last year. Lilacs and Lace wasn't really that consistent but she was a G1SW.

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    Re: Flower Alley

    I didnt forget, I thought she had been injured.

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    Re: Flower Alley

    She wasn't injured, the new owner wanted her retired and bred.

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    Re: Flower Alley

    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    She was bred last year to Midnight Lute. I certainly hope they do better by her this year. Distorted Humor is a great idea!


    Distorted Humor's stud fee is what...150k This breeder didn't appear to be "big time KY breeder". Can he finance the stud fee if he doesnt happen to have 150k in his "checking account"?

    Better idea poster above...sell the mare and next owner can breed mare to big time sire like DH.

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    Re: Flower Alley

    Lilacs and Lace ran a troubled trip in the Oaks. Purchased and sent to Japan to be bred last year.

    As for 3 Chims advertising - they haven't posted a thing yet on their website as of Sun 5pm. can you blame them for striking while the fire is hot?

    T Times ad had this
    DISTORTED HUMOR’S
    ONLY SON TO SIRE A G1 SW

    Referring to the filly. Now the only DH with 2 G1SW. The 'fourth year' numbers include his crop of 2yos, probably none have run yet. Lot's of breeders love the 'big horse' angle where the overall numbers are moderate, but the SWs that show up run very big.

    Nothing like siring a Derby winner - with potential for a classic winner. He himself won the Travers beating the best of his generation - and a good second in the BC Classic. Could have won HOTY with a win there.

    Still a bargain at $12k IMHO

    jm

    jm




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    Re: Flower Alley

    Quote Originally Posted by Joltman View Post
    Lilacs and Lace ran a troubled trip in the Oaks. Purchased and sent to Japan to be bred last year.
    She must have been bred here because she was bred to Henrythenavigator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Song of Solomon View Post
    Considering the date, I wonder who he did breed her to.... and whether he's happy or kicking himself. ;-)

    I'd be looking to sell her right now too.
    She's been covered by Gio Ponti.

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    Epiphany
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    Re: Flower Alley

    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    She was bred last year to Midnight Lute. I certainly hope they do better by her this year. Distorted Humor is a great idea!
    You won't think Lute is such a bad deal for her next year.

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    Epiphany
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    Re: Flower Alley

    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    She wasn't injured, the new owner wanted her retired and bred.
    LOL.

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