No Black Caviar thread? Well, here it is.

[CoronadosQuest]

...am I really witnessing an attempt to draw conclusions based on the comparison of fractional times in races that were run a year apart, on different ground, with different configurations... in Europe?

I just... I don't... is this real life?

My mind is just as confused. Why is this discussion even happening.. what is the point? What end result are we trying to achieve by comparing last year's race to this year's race? And the biggest question is: How is this tied with Black Caviar's race tomorrow?

GO BC! Go show them who the best filly in the world is!

[arkle]

Oh, wow. You think rounding off to 2 seconds and adding that to the 14+ seconds that he ran, and coming up with the 16+ seconds that the second place finisher ran is "just making stuff up?"

It's not my credibility that you're hurting.

Ok, this must be some new branch of mathematics I am not familiar with.
Here it is once again... http://www.turftrax.co.uk/pdf/tracki...1%20Report.pdf
Those show the internal splits that each individual horse ran, timed by a chip in each horse's saddle pad.
Where in there do you see 16s+ for any horse for the final furlong?

What Timeform said is.. "it follows that Frankel's 11 lengths winning margin was equivalent, more or less, to 2 seconds." .
That is winning margin for the full 8f of the race.
Where does it say he ran the final furlong 2 seconds faster than any other horse?

[Indychase]

I may be off by half a furlong. I just watched the race again, because I remembered Frankel and Excelebration being lapped on each other until the final furlong -- hence why I estimated that time in my head. It was definitely within the 2 furlong mark -- maybe 1 1/2 furlongs to go -- that Frankel finally got a length ahead of him, and then pulled away from him.

So that is where my error comes in -- part of what I was counting in the final furlong actually is in the 2nd to last furlong split (which officially is almost 1.40 seconds difference). So it still looks off by .60 of a second to me.

You do know that the horses are timed by a chip, right? There's really no reason for you to be inaccurately eyeballing it.

[Kurenai]

This is getting beyond ridiculous. Am not even gonna try to talk some sense into this, this time.

Personally I hope that Nelly does something amazing today. Only a few hours to go and I'm already nervous! *crosses fingers for Nelly*

[PerfectSoul]

Still trying to find a live feed. I have HRTV, but from the way the schedule looks, they aren't showing the race live. Grrrr!

Edited to add: HRTV has Royal Ascot live now. My error.

[Ballerina]

The field

http://www.bookies.com/horse-racing/...15-45/betting/

[Blue Jeans]

Only an hour and a half to go! GO BLACK CAVIAR!

$775,000 Diamond Jubilee Stakes (gr. I, race 3, 10:45 a.m. EDT), 6 furlongs, (turf).
PP, Horse, Wgt., Jockey, Trainer
1. Sirius Prospect (KY), 130, S.W. Kelly, D.K. Ivory
2. Genki (Ire), 130, G. Baker, R. Charlton
3. Hitchens (Ire), 130, F.M. Berry, D. Barron
4. Krypton Factor (GB), 130, K. Fallon, F. Nass
5. Moonlight Cloud, (GB), 127, T. Jarnet, F. Head
6. The Cheka (Ire), 130, T. Queally, E. Johnson-Houghton
7. Es Que Love (Ire), 123, S. de Sousa, M. Johnston
8. Soul (Aus), 130, L. Dettori, S. bin Suroor
9. Jimmy Styles (GB), 130, R. Hughes, C. Cox
10. Pastoral Player (GB), 130, D. Holland, H. Morrison
11. Restiadargent (Fr), 120, M. Guyon, H.A. Pantall
12. Bogart (GB), 123, P. Makin, K. Ryan
13. Society Rock (Ire), 130, J. Murtagh, J. Fanshawe
14. Royal Rock (GB), 130, T. Durcan, C. Wall
15. Black Caviar (Aus), 127, L. Nolen, P. Moody


Read more on BloodHorse.com: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1yccGnzOB

[arkle]

Live BBC feed.
http://tykestv.eu/channel3.php

[Defcon One]

Thanks for the live link. The race that was just on there...turned it one in the middle of it. Don't know what it was, don't know who the jockey or horse was, but down the stretch there was a horse running dead last, dropping back fast, totally and absolutely beaten, and without hope...and getting the crap whipped out of him by the jockey.

Personally, I'd like to put that jockey under a whip. 50 lashes sounds about right.

[arkle]

Nellie in da house!
Walking around the paddock right now. Looks very relaxed.

[bare it all]

Relying on some play by play from the forumites since I'm watching the hubs play tennis!

Go Nelly!

[BARNFOUR]

26 minute warning....

[Kurenai]

Nelly looks really relaxed. That's what her trainer always says: he's afraid she might fall asleep until she steps onto the track, then she's transforming into something else. Waaaah, so excited!

[second_glance]

Nellie in da house!
Walking around the paddock right now. Looks very relaxed.

Glad she is. :-) I'm too nervous to enjoy the buildup!

[Whos the Cowboy]

This is why I love racing, no matter where the race is run.
Go Nelly-You're the world's horse!

[Citation07]

It's kind of funny watching everyone crane to get a look at her. Can't blame them.

[arkle]

Great to see Peter O'Sullevan in the parade ring... one legend comes to see another.

[Whos the Cowboy]

The greatness of her ability is that she is a great breaker and is always in good position in the race

[janpal]

Heard she is going to be ridden out today. That should be a sight to see! BC looks beautiful in the paddock.Large group has gathered at Australia's famous square to watch her -- neat!

[CoronadosQuest]

She is tossing her head quite a bit. I am nervous!