Havre de Grace to November Fasig-Tipton

[Intelligent Male]

The Saint Liam attraction amounted to a median price of $22,000 at Keeneland November last year for Saint Liam mares.

I don't think the fact that she's be a sire who died young is an attraction for anyone - it's not like his one crop was chock full of top horses (although he did sire this one extraordinary one).

Buyers who place a premium on top notch racemares will be there for her but there are some buyers who place the largest premium on pedigree or on mares who've already proven themselves as producers of top horses.

That's the great thing about the top breeding stock sales - there's something for everyone.

I don't think the current economics of the industry support her bringing a record price, but she will surely bring a boat load of money relative to the current economic reality.

Maybe Mitt Romney and his wife can buy her and venture into breeding Thoroughbred racehorses, and then the NY Times can run an article about how many starving African orphans they could have fed with that money (or how many absolutely fabulous gay weddings they could have traveled to).

[Pronzini]

Maybe Mitt Romney and his wife can buy her and venture into breeding Thoroughbred racehorses, and then the NY Times can run an article about how many starving African orphans they could have fed with that money (or how many absolutely fabulous gay weddings they could have traveled to).

Nothing the NYT writes any more surprises me but cheek aside, Mitt is having enough PR problems with "Rafalca at sport". A venture in TB racing would seal the deal of out of touch rich guy.

Who was the last President to own racehorses in office--George Washington?

[islandgirl45]

The Saint Liam attraction amounted to a median price of $22,000 at Keeneland November last year for Saint Liam mares.

I don't think the fact that she's be a sire who died young is an attraction for anyone - it's not like his one crop was chock full of top horses (although he did sire this one extraordinary one).

Buyers who place a premium on top notch racemares will be there for her but there are some buyers who place the largest premium on pedigree or on mares who've already proven themselves as producers of top horses.

That's the great thing about the top breeding stock sales - there's something for everyone.

I don't think the current economics of the industry support her bringing a record price, but she will surely bring a boat load of money relative to the current economic reality.

Maybe Mitt Romney and his wife can buy her and venture into breeding Thoroughbred racehorses, and then the NY Times can run an article about how many starving African orphans they could have fed with that money (or how many absolutely fabulous gay weddings they could have traveled to).

It may be difficult when we're 100 days away from the November elections, but could you keep this stuff in the political forum and out of the horse-related forums?

[Miss Woodford]

Nothing the NYT writes any more surprises me but cheek aside, Mitt is having enough PR problems with "Rafalca at sport". A venture in TB racing would seal the deal of out of touch rich guy.

Who was the last President to own racehorses in office--George Washington?

Ulysses S. Grant bred and raced trotters.

Andrew Jackson operated a full-scale racing stable from the White House and entered runners in the name of his nephew.

[northport]

Saint Liam was a wonderful horse who sadly, was taken from us way too soon. I think Havre will be purchased by Frank Stronach.

I have a feeling about this. Only time will tell...

If she is expected to fetch a price in the Ashado range, I cannot see Stronach paying that much for her. Usually I would say it would be between Coolmore and Godolphin, but Yoshida has been buying the best mares from all over the world in the last decade or so...

[TapitsGal]

What happens if the reserve isn't met? Does Porter take the highest private bid?

I can't see a horse like Havre De Grace not meeting her reserve.You would think that a horse like her would be a must have in any broodmare band

[mariasmon]

I can't see a horse like Havre De Grace not meeting her reserve.You would think that a horse like her would be a must have in any broodmare band

Not if she is overvalued by Mr. Porter. Recall that Ginger Punch also failed to meet reserve a few years ago, although she was ultimately sold privately. Grace is a good-looking mare and she could really run, but her pedigree doesn't match Royal Delta's, Playful Act's or even Ashado's. I think that's ultimately where she'll get dinged.

It will really come down to who wants her and how deep their pockets are. Darley hasn't really been buying broodmares/prospects much in the US the past few years. I don't think Coolmore will pay in the $8-9 mil range. Frank Stronach was bidding on Royal Delta last year, but the $8.5 mil was obviously more than he was willing to go.

Summer Wind Farm usually picks up one really nice new broodmare a year, but they've never gone that high on any of them. I'll be interested to see what Besilu spends on yearlings this year. I suppose they're a possibility, although they really spent aggressively last year. Unfortunately, I think the Japanese are the likeliest, as they've been paying big money regularly and pedigree seems less important to them.

[bare it all]

That was my thought, too, MM, that maybe Porter is over-valuing her? I have to imagine the private offers for her weren't in the "few hundred thousand" range. To be a fly on the wall in his office with his bloodstock agent...

I wish we could get the "inside scoop" on what happened after-the-fact a la IHA. Porter is usually pretty forthcoming with information about his stable, but I don't think he would be when it came to to dollars, though.

[mariasmon]

I don't think there's anything WRONG with her pedigree at all. I just don't think it's outstanding.

[easy goer gal]

I've been following the articles on The Bloodhorse about HdG's sale with interest. I believe that Porter made a comment along the lines of "I hear she looks like a million bucks. I'm hoping for about 10 times that..." Of course, it was just an off the cuff comment, but I was surprised by that sort of estimate. I mean, I wouldn't think any broodmare could possibly be profitable at that price. I guess if you've got a breeding operation like Godolphin and want the best pedigrees in your foals for generations, maybe then it's worth it. Porter seems to think she'll be a prestige buy - that someone will want her to own a HOY winner above anything else. We'll see. I know the game's not all about money, but there also aren't many people out there who could spend that sort of money on a mare that will not cover nearly her purchase price in her lifetime.

[ChampionCurlin]

I've been following the articles on The Bloodhorse about HdG's sale with interest. I believe that Porter made a comment along the lines of "I hear she looks like a million bucks. I'm hoping for about 10 times that..."

Taylor Made posted pictures of HdG on their FB. She is stunning.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...12777604_n.jpg

[TapitsGal]

I've been following the articles on The Bloodhorse about HdG's sale with interest. I believe that Porter made a comment along the lines of "I hear she looks like a million bucks. I'm hoping for about 10 times that..." Of course, it was just an off the cuff comment, but I was surprised by that sort of estimate. I mean, I wouldn't think any broodmare could possibly be profitable at that price. I guess if you've got a breeding operation like Godolphin and want the best pedigrees in your foals for generations, maybe then it's worth it. Porter seems to think she'll be a prestige buy - that someone will want her to own a HOY winner above anything else. We'll see. I know the game's not all about money, but there also aren't many people out there who could spend that sort of money on a mare that will not cover nearly her purchase price in her lifetime.

The Japanese could or the Maktoums

[second_glance]

Dams of I'll Have Another and Bodemeister will also be offered at this sale.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/sal...ig-tipton.aspx

[janpal]

Taylor Made posted pictures of HdG on their FB. She is stunning.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...12777604_n.jpg

Happy to see her looking so good and galloping around after suffering her ankle injury. She looks ready to tackle her next career. Thanks for posting the pic.

[serenassong]

I think that she will have gorgeous babies.

[starrydreamer]

I don't think there's anything WRONG with her pedigree at all. I just don't think it's outstanding.

I agree. Her pedigree isn't BAD... it's just not stunning. Playful Act is a full sister to Percussionist (and Changing Skies, but she was only 2 when Playful Act was sold)... and she was sold in 2007, before the financial crisis had really taken effect. (Though considering that Magnificient Style has since produced 2 more G1 winners, you have to wonder if the bidders had seers looking into the future or something.)

I think it's pretty obvious we'll be seeing an astonishing hammer price on Havre de Grace. I'm just not certain it will break records. My best guess is that she goes to Japan... but if she stays here, it'll be great.

[moonwalker]

Benjamin Leon of Besilu was interested in the St. Liam female family last fall; maybe he will show an interest in St. Liam's HOTY daughter.

Though my guess is she'll end up in Japan.

Mary MMM

[Flanders]

Taylor Made put more photos up on Facebook on Wednesday, including some with Plum Pretty.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2814200&type=1

[janpal]

Taylor Made put more photos up on Facebook on Wednesday, including some with Plum Pretty.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2814200&type=1

Thanks for posting. She looks like a million dollars ........ or should I say, nine or ten. ;-)

[flytothestars]

What dates is that sale in November? I am trying to squeeze a time between now and October to see her at Taylor Made before she goes in the sale