Smarty Jones Kids

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Oooh.. that head is unfortunate. She's nice enough except for that head/neck set she's got. She's got a kind eye at least.
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Her head is a bit coarse, and the neck is a bit eweish, but she'll prolly get the length on it later on. I wouldn't worry too much about her.
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Eh, the neck maybe, but I don't see her "outgrowing" that ugly head. It is an unflattering shape and her slight pig-eyes won't go away either. Her neck might get better, but I don't think her head will.

Either way, the rest of her body is decent. Nice hip, nice legs. She's got slightly long pasterns, but they've got a nice angle to them. Her shoulder is a little weak, but otherwise nice. She's slightly over at the knee, but I've seen a lot of Smarty's that are and she still has time to outgrow that. Overall, she's got a nice build and a nice body and a big, unflattering head. The ill-fitting halter doesn't help.

[Silverbulletday]

The eye may be a tad on the small side, but as you said before, she's got a good expession. Pig eyes tend to indicate less-than-average intellegince, but that isn't necessarliy bad in a prospective racehorse.

This is just my opinion, as with ALL conformation discussion, but I really don't find her head that offensive and I like the rest of her - especially that shoulder. There's time enough to strengthen that later on.

The only part I don't like is that she's by Smarty. I really wasn't a fan of the horse while he was racing and I don't like his pedigree.

[Adieu]

I think the Forest Heiress filly looks pretty nice, but I do remember noticing that her head and neck were not exactly perfect when I first saw those pictures. I don't think her head is that bad, though, and I don't think it should affect how she runs much... :wink:

Actually if you look at the picture of her half-brother by Mineshaft he's got a similar look to his head and neck so I don't think you can give all the credit for that to Smarty (or Mineshaft) :tongue:

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And he's started already and could be a runner. But they've both obviously grown a lot since those pics were taken so it would be interesting to see how they look now.

As far as Smarty's pedigree, up close it definitely does not compare to Empire Maker's or Mineshaft's or Aldebaran's or Bernardini's, etc..., but I think it's nice enough and there have certainly been plenty of more than successful sires who on the surface didn't/don't appear to be ultra-regally bred. The book is still out on Elusive Quality so we don't know how he'll be as a sire of sires, but having Gone West as a grandsire is a good thing. And he does have that outstanding tail female family - which has produced many good and better runners and sires - to fall back on, and the 5x5x5 to one of the best sires ever in Bold Ruler (as well as the 5x6 to Somethingroyal, additional La Troienne, etc...). That coupled with his not perfect but pretty nice conformation and brilliant speed make me feel good about Smarty's chances to at least be a decent sire.

They always do say that speed is one of the most important ingredients in a stallion prospect, and Smarty was one of the fastest 3-year-olds in decades, and right up there as a 2-year-old when he did run after the gate accident. And he could carry that speed a distance of ground... we mostly just saw his cruising speed since he learned to rate pretty well, which is kind of scary (in a good way :wink. And he got it honestly with his sire being a world record setter for a mile and his broodmare sire a champion sprinter. He also got his stamina more honestly than some may think, having a conduit mare profile that would be considered almost perfect for the Classics and almost identical to that of Seattle Slew.

While we're on topic, I thought that maybe some Smarty fans would enjoy reading a little more in depth about his pedigree, so I went back and found a couple of interesting pieces that I saved from when he was running. I forget exactly where the one came from but it was a commentary by a pedigree expert type from another forum I'm pretty sure, and the other is by Steve Byk from before the Belmont (makes you think back to what could have been, but Smarty ran one of the best races you'll ever see win or lose, so he more than proved he was worthy) Pretty interesting stuff, at least I think... :smiley:



A very interesting piece from Steve Byk on both the overall and tail female aspects:

ON SMARTY'S PEDIGREE: Of Blue Hens, Mrs. Genter and Slew

With the Belmont Stakes looming as a final hurdle for Smarty Jones in his quest for the Triple Crown, talk of his breeding requires closer examination with the topic sure to be covered extensively over the next two weeks by the media. The colt is so obviously special, the type that enters the galaxy of racing on timetables like comets, with a multitude of contributions in his pedigree to account for his speed, tenacity and seemingly endless stamina.

Should he fulfill everyone's dreams for a new TC champion June 5, Smarty Jones' pedigree will be closely examined for years to come. It is a chart that is loaded with top quality products of many of the game's greatest breeding benefactors, especially that omnipresent petite doyen Frances A. Genter, who continues to extend her influence on racing a decade after her passing. Purple-blooded products of Genter (owner-breeder of Unbridled), Ogden Phipps, Meadow Farm, Col. Bradley and James Keene all weigh heavily as progenitors of Smarty, in an outrageous group of Hall of Fame horses and "Blue Hen" mares, including the queen mother herself LA TROIENNE, Smarty's seventh dam. In fact, it is the mothers in Smarty Jones' family tree that stand out above even the top sires dotting his pedigree.

Smarty is also a lasting tribute to the race business savvy of Roy Chapman's late friend, trainer and breeding advisor, the slain Bobby Camac. It was Camac who found and raced Smarty's dam I'll Get Along, a Genter-bred bay daughter of the brilliant Breeders Cup Sprint and Eclipse champion Smile (27/14-4-3, $1,664,000) and modest stakes winner Don't Worry Bout Me. A cantankerous race mare who won 12 races from 39 starts, I'll Get Along was in the money another 22 times and banked more than $270,000 after being purchased by the Chapmans at Keeneland for $40,000. Upon her retirement, Camac paired the mare with the vicious temperament first with Formal Gold and next with Elusive Quality. The Formal Gold filly, Be Happy My Love, has won once. The Elusive Quality colt is Smarty Jones.

Mrs. Genter was likely drawn to Smile as the top racing get of her own outstanding runner In Reality, who produced 81 stakes winners in his second career. Like Smile, In Reality met one of racing's standards for excellence winning more than he lost (27/14, $800,000), while missing the board only twice in his career. In Reality, second to Damascus in the '67 Preakness, won the Pimlico Futurity, Cowdin and Sapling at two, the Florida Derby and Fountain Of Youth at three and the Metropolitan and Carter at four, a record immediately noteworthy for its precociousness and tractability. Smile too met with early success winning sprint stakes at two, before stretching out with aplomb at distances up to 9f in the Arlington Classic and Fairmount Park Derby where he set a new track record (1.49.0).

In Reality and Elusive Quality's grandsire Mr. Prospector are the two "Chefs de Race" closest up in Smarty's pedigree, both exerting "Brilliant" and "Classic" influence on the Triple Crown hopeful. In Reality was a product of Mrs. Genter's famed Frizette winner and Blue Hen mare My Dear Girl. The two-year old Champion of 1959, My Dear Girl was sired by 1951 Santa Anita Derby hero and Brilliant-Classic Chef Rough'n Tumble, honored forever by history as the sire of Dr. Fager. My Dear Girl dropped Flamingo winner Superbity (11/8-1-0, $297,000) and Gentle Touch (dam of Dr. Carter) before meeting up with Tartan Stables' Champion sprinter Intentionally to create In Reality. Intentionally (Intent) was yet another 50%+ winner among Smarty's ancestors, going 18-7-2 in 34 starts for $652,000 in four years. He took the Belmont and Pimlico Futurities as a juvenile, the Withers, Jerome and Wright Memorial as a sophomore (equaling the world record for 8f of 1:33.1), the Equipoise Mile and Toboggan at four and the Aqueduct and Palm Beach Handicaps at five.

A top sire after his racing days, lntentionally got many excellent racers forgotten by time besides In Reality. Tentam, a son of Blue Hen Tamarett (by Tim Tam, and Elusive Quality sire Gone West's second dam), was by Intentionally and demonstrated versatile class in an 11 win career ($459,109) that featured victories in the Jim Dandy, United Nations, Metropolitan, Toboggan and Bernard Baruch. Intentionally is one of the Chefs that helps bolster Smarty's sustained speed as a "Brilliant-Intermediate" influence. Those traits come through Intentionally from one of the most significant sources of "Solid" aptitude (stamina) available in breeding, a mare (My Recipe) by A. G. Vanderbilt's immortal Hall of Famer and Broodmare sire legend Discovery.

My Recipe is hardly the only daughter of a major Broodmare Sire buried among Smarty's ancestors. Alanesian, sire of 1966 Santa Anita Derby winner Boldnesian (Bold Ruler), was a daughter of Blue
Larkspur mare Alablue and Intermediate influence Polynesian, thereby inbred 5x4 to Col. Bradley's history-making stud Black Toney. Black Toney, a product of the Keene Family, produced a litany of classic champions for Idle Hour including Bimelech, Black Gold, Black Helen and Broker's Tip, winner in the famed 1933 "Fighting Finish" Derby with Head Play, and the only horse in history whose lone career victory came in the Run for the Roses.

The very special Meadow Stud foundation mare Hildene, daughter of 1926 Derby winner Bubbling Over, appears in Smarty as well, as First Landing's dam. The Champion juvenile of 1958, First Landing was a winner of 19 races including the Champagne, Hopeful, Great American Stakes, Derby Trial and Saratoga Special. He was Hildene's biggest money winner, but she may be better known for producing two-year old Champion and 1950 Horse of the Year, Hill Prince. His Hall of Fame career included wins in 17 of 30 starts (again 50%+) with victories in the Preakness, American Derby, Jockey Club Gold Cup, Wood Memorial, Withers Stakes, Jerome and Cowdin to his credit, as well as placements in the Kentucky Derby, Dwyer, Sapling Stakes and Suburban.

Still unimpressed? Well not every foal from Hildene was a winner. In 1949 she came up with Satsuma by Bossuet. Satsuma was able to hit the board just once in eight tries, a maiden win worth $2,800. However she more than made up for her shortcomings as a runner for Meadow when paired with their own Bryan G. to produce a filly in 1959. Chris Chenery named her CICADA, and the rest was history.

While dam I'll Get Along's sire line adds speed and class to Smarty Jones' already brilliant Raise A Native line topside, it is her bottom that balances his chart perfectly with stout influences and unmitigated class. One need not look much further than her dam Don't Worry Bout Me for a source of Smarty's endurance. She won five times in 22 starts for Mrs. Genter, including the appropriate My Dear Girl, and as a daughter of Foolish Pleasure and Stolen Base was in bred 4x4 to Classic-Professional imparter and French Derby winner Tourbillon.

The mating of 1975 Derby winner Foolish Pleasure with Stolen Base (Herbager) represented a classic speed over stamina marriage. Herbager, the French Champion sophomore in 1959, was a top 10 sire in the U.S. between 1970-1975 delivering Classic-Solid attributes to his progeny. Stolen Base, a Phipps-Wheatley mare, was in the money 20 times in a 32 race career and produced a top runner in Grade I winner Basie (Delaware H.) for Mrs. Genter in a "nicking" match with In Reality (!). Her dam, Bases Full, was nothing special on the track, but hit paydirt as a mom producing Bold and Brave (Jerome, Hutcheson, Royal Palm) with Bold Ruler in 1963. Bold and Brave is remembered as the sire of the outstanding filly Bold'n Determined, a multiple Gr. I winner and Hall of Famer who won 16 of 20 and defeated Genuine Risk in the unforgettable 1980 Maskette.

The quality of Smarty Jones' dam line intensifies behind Bases Full with three straight Blue Hens, her dam Striking, grand dam Baby League and great grand dame of them all, La Troienne. The appearance of Striking in Smarty is an indication of how far regal blood reaches in lineage and the directions it can take. A typically modest winner as a runner, the daughter of Baby League and "Classic" plus WAR ADMIRAL became one of the immortal broodmares when she delivered Glamour from Nasrullah in 1953. Matched with Hall of Famer Round Table, Glamour got Poker, the broodmare sire of My Charmer, dam of Seattle Slew, and Bonnie's Poker, dam of Silver Charm. 11 years later, she was put to Swaps to produce Intriguing, a chestnut filly who again proved that the best dams are often not great runners.

Intriguing is the dam of Numbered Account, the Phipps Stable foundation mare whose production in the shed was mind boggling. In addition to delivering the important Dance Number and Polish Numbers, in 1976 she brought forth Private Account from a meeting with Damascus. Though solid on the track, Private Account was a font in the shed with sons like Brunswick and Corporate Report and an even more remarkable record as a Broodmare Sire. Daughters Chimes of Freedom (dam of Aldebaran and Good Journey), Classy Cathy (Ashland, Alabama and Gazelle winner), East of the Moon (European Champion Miler) and Inside Information (BC Distaff, 6 other Gr. I's) all have made their mark.

But when Ogden Phipps settled on him as a breeding partner for his one-time winning mare Grecian Banner, Private Account made history. While Phipps had no complaints with the second foal produced by the pair in Suburban winner Personal Flag (24/8-4-4, $1,259,000), he was slightly more tickled when they came back a year later and delivered one of the greatest fair-sexed racehorses of all time: Personal Ensign.

Getting back to Striking, she was one of five siblings of Baby League's unions with War Admiral, the fourth Triple Crown winner (and one of the four TC heroes to appear in Smarty's pedigree along with Gallant Fox, Omaha and Secretariat). Four of the five were winners, but the first was BUSHER. Bred and initially raced by Col. Bradley and then by Louis B. Meyer (MGM), the exceptional chestnut filly went 15-3-1 in 21 starts in a career that saw her swipe the Adirondack, Matron, San Vicente, Santa Margarita, Washington Park H., Hollywood Derby and Vanity and then birth the good Jet Action after retiring. Baby League was by Bubbling Over making this his second appearance in Smarty's chart (Hildene sire, above).

Bubbling Over's reappearance brings us back to where we started, the discussion of "how" Smarty Jones is able to win the way he has, remaining undefeated through his first eight career starts. Bubbling Over and Baby League themselves likely have a lot to do with it given that the father-daughter have been down this same road before as they coursed through the blood of Seattle Slew 27 years ago in his undefeated march towards the first Saturday in June.

The above sidebar mention of Glamour as a daughter of Striking was germane because she was the dam of Slew's Broodmare Sire Poker. The consideration of Busher son Jet Action figures in the plot by way of Slew's grand dam, Jet Action's daughter Fair Charmer. It was the union of Poker and Fair Charmer that produced Slew's dam My Charmer, hence inbreeding her to the War Admiral-Baby League family of siblings through two different daughters, Striking and Busher!

In addition to the similarity in damside breeding, Slew and Smarty share the Blue Larkspur-Black Toney influence from Alablue through Boldnesian's presence in their pedigrees. As a topper, the pair also have an equal number of dosage points (22) to their credit, with Slew's (7-6-4-5-0, DI 2.14) being slightly more stamina bent than Smarty's (10-3-8-1-0, DI 3.40), but not by much.

Though Smarty Jones still has to get through the next week and a half, and then through Belmont's treacherous mile and a half, it appears from a class standpoint he is an able candidate to follow in Seattle Slew's hoofprints as the second undefeated Triple Crown winner. In addition, with the realization that he carries the desirable R-A-N line top and such distinguished bottom blood, it may be just as likely that Smarty Jones adequately steps in for the departed Slew in the breeding shed as well.

And this one is basically an overview of the mares in his pedigree, which I found interesting:

The most powerful evidence of the capability in a pedigree is presented through the mares, not the sires. It's a smaller, more direct sampling, usually not more than 12 foals per mare (the breed average is closer to 6 and better mares between 8-9) while the sire may have 500 foals or more. Finding a sire in a pedigree that got a classic winner is to be expected; finding a mare that produced one is compelling. Even classic winning sires in the pedigree are accounted for by analyzing their dams.

While I find that the Dosage calculations offer no insight beyond what can be gained from simple examination, Ellen Parker's Reines-De-Course is a simple system that identifies superior producing mares. Since the mare?s designation as a reine is based on her own production and her daughters, it takes time to establish the credentials to be so accorded and thus they aren?t likely to be found in the most recent generations. Smarty Jones has 4 reines in his 4th generation, 9 in his 5th and 16 in his 6th. That's more than half of the mares in those generations are recognized as superior.

In his 5 generation pedigree, Smarty Jones has 31 mares, 30 of whom were stakes producers (13 reines). Cuadrilla is the lone exception yet her daughter, Fool-Me-Not, is the dam of Kentucky Derby winner and champion 2yo colt of 1974, Foolish Pleasure, sire of 2nd dam Don?t Worry Bout Me.

The female tail line is the only part of any horse's pedigree that can be examined female to female without going through a stallion to make the evaluation. These female lines have family numbers that designate a lineage that can, in a sense, be regarded as the pedigree?s backbone. The quality of the female tail and it's success in production gives us a lot of information about what might be expected of a foal tracing to that line. For example, Seattle Slew and Mr. Prospector are both tail female to the ancestress Myrtlewood from Frizette?s family 13c. The stronger the female tail, the stronger the foundation of the pedigree. The reason for this is simple; we expect stallions to be well bred or exceptional racers or both. Females in the tail line are individuals whose quality is at least half expressed through another female culminating in the dam of the horse being examined.

Smarty Jones' 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th dams are all stakes winners, the 3rd dam is stakes placed and all five are stakes producers. His 6th dam is reine-de-course Baby League and his 7th is La Troienne (reine) who is perhaps the most famous and successful foundation mare in North America in this century. It's great to have La Troienne in your pedigree, better to trace to her female tail.

Elusive Quality (sire) and I'll Get Along (dam) of Smarty Jones are both line bred on the family of Frizette (13c) and crossed with a strain of La Troienne (1x). The mating that produced Smarty Jones is therefore a line breed on these two most potent families.

Perhaps the questions about Smarty's pedigree are based on his dam's sire, Smile, who was champion sprinter in 1986. On closer examination of Smile's race record we find that he won 6 of 14 starts routing, earning $770,982 including the Arlington Classic -G1. His sire line descends from and is inbred to Man o'War, an all important distance North American distance influence.

Perhaps they're based on his sire, Elusive Quality who was at his best at middle distances on the turf (1:31.3 winning the Poker H. -G3). Seems there are lessons unlearned. Only a year ago Funny Cide wasn't supposed to get 10 furlongs because his sire didn't. A generation ago Stephen's Odyssey and Danzig Connection couldn?t get the Belmont for the same reason. After so many classic winners from Mr. Prospector's sire line you'd think this question would long ago have been answered.

Smarty Jones' pedigree is exceptional for the quality and production records of the mares in his pedigree. In the first 5 generations 31 mares appear, and 30 of those are stakes producers. That is an exceptional percentage of proven mares.

Interesting to note that not only are all of Smarty's dams tracing to La Troienne stakes producers, but aside from I'll Get Along they are all multiple stakes producers and I think all graded stakes producers. And I'll Get Along still has time... I'm eager to see what Smarty's gorgeous full sister can do and of course those Sadler's Wells babies.

I'll probably be a nervous wreck once his foals start running (I was bad enough waiting for Mineshaft's first winner ), but I'm not expecting the world. Just hoping that he can be a decent Kentucky sire and get some real standouts from time to time. And, just maybe, even better. Only time will tell...

[charismatic146]

That is interesting stuff! God, where do you find these things!?
I can't wait to see these babies run! There are definitely ones I'm partial to that I am very excited about!

[Adieu]

LOL, glad you found it interesting!! :smiley: I really hadn't thought about posting it before, but with the pedigree talk I figured some people (like you :wink might enjoy that stuff.

By the way, he has another named foal...

Propellor Jones, '07 colt out of Independent Grace by A.P. Indy.

I'm hoping they named him that for a reason (like that he runs like he has one :wink!!

[charismatic146]

Cute name. :wink:

[Silverbulletday]

Egad! That colt has an ugly neck.

[Taurus29]

I'm actually liking the name Propellor Jones! LOL! Let's hope he propels himself into the winner's circle.

As for the Forest Heiress young lady, I hope we get to see pics of her soon and see how she is looking now.

Adieu, thanks for all the info on Smarty's pedigree. Fascinating stuff! :grin:

[Adieu]

Here's another picture of the Kew Garden colt (she's the stakes producing half-sister to Folklore's dam, basically making her a 2nd cousin to Smarty... very cool breeding on this colt!!). But anyway, what a pretty picture and what a cute little guy...

[img width=475 height=317]http://i11.tinypic.com/4r1r9mt.jpg[/img]


And you can see the other pic of him and pics of the other foals born at Country Life Farm on their site... It says they were all taken in May I guess so obviously some were older than others and the Smarty baby was not very old at all. Too cute!! :smiley:

http://countrylifefarm.com/Foals/index.cfm

[charismatic146]

Aww he's very cute. I like the coloring.

[Taurus29]

Great pic of mom and baby. Thanks, Adieu.

[Adieu]

A few more Smarty babies born around the world... :smiley:

Filly out of Stinger (JPN), by Sunday Silence

Another filly by Smarty out of a champion daughter of Sunday Silence!! This one was foaled in Japan. Stinger is out of the Affirmed mare Legacy of Strength and is full to G2 winner Silent Happiness.


Filly out of Sweet Eternity (BRZ), by Effervescing

Sweet Eternity is a Brazilian champion and out of a G1 winner and it looks like is full to two other G1 winners and half to another. This filly was born in Brazil. I also think it's neat that her sire, Effervescing, is from the same Striking branch of the La Troienne family as Smarty. She's his second dam (very nice!!)!!


And born in Australia over the weekend...

Colt out of Venus by Atticus

Venus is out of the stakes placed Stormette, who is a half-sister to champions Storm Bird, Northernette, etc... And Venus herself is half to G1 winner Storm Trooper and multiple G3 winner Marillette and to the granddam of Stupendous Miss.



Also, Oaklawn will be having a race named in Smarty's honor starting next year, according to DRF. It will be part of the 3-year-old Derby trail for them, a mile race preceding the Southwest, Rebel and Arkansas Derby. The purse is $50K, so not as much as Smarty's other race, but hopefully it will get some nice runners and grow over time... :smiley:

[charismatic146]

YAY!! I bet that Stinger baby is gorgeous!

[charismatic146]

These are actually courtesy of Adieu. She has a couple pictures of the Rahy Rose filly.
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[windkeeper]

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Smarty's Gold - Colt out of Mandy's Gold (Gilded Time) :-*

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This is the one I'm going to follow. Born on my birthday - and his first colt?

[Adieu]

The Rahy Rose filly brought $350K!!

I was happy to see that D. Wayne Lukas, Bob Baffert (I think) and Nick Zito all got Smarty babies, among many other great people. I always remember just how much Mr. Lukas thought of Smarty when he was running... some of his comments gave me chills and so I was really hoping that he would get a Smarty baby and he did!! The filly out of Eishin Bridle, a stakes producing three-quarter sister to Buddha. I really hope she does him proud :smiley:

And Bob Baffert was quoted again pretty recently calling Smarty a true freak, so obviously he had similar thoughts. He got the colt out of Shootforthestars (I'm assuming) for Zayat Stables at only $60K I think. Which makes me think that he may have had some sort of an issue that they felt he was nice enough to take a chance on, because he was a beautiful baby and Mrs. Chapman must've thought the same because she bought his dam last year to breed her back to Smarty. But that's just a guess - maybe he is just *the dreaded* :wink: small or something. But even if small, these babies still have a lot of growing to do, so they still could really blossom.

And Nick Zito got the Carly's Crown colt for My MeadowView Farms for I think $350K, so best of luck to all of them!! :smiley:

I'll find some of the pictures of some of them next time (unless someone else wants to post them), though I'm sure a lot of you have seen some already.

[tachyon]

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YAY!! I bet that Stinger baby is gorgeous!
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I second that! :smiley:

[Adieu]

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[quote author=charismatic146 link=topic=12448.msg369297#msg369297 date=1188601207]
YAY!! I bet that Stinger baby is gorgeous!
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I second that! :smiley:
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Can't wait to see a picture of her!! :smiley: :wink:

Also I saw that Big Red Farm got the Smarty colt out of Confidently by Storm Cat, tachyon. For $350K I think. Confidently is a full sister to Yankee Gentleman and to Zing, the dam of Half Ours, and their dam is G1 winner Key Phrase. I remember reading that they really liked this colt as a foal, and I hope he does well in Japan :smiley:

[tachyon]

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[quote author=tachyon link=topic=12448.msg377652#msg377652 date=1190002967]
[quote author=charismatic146 link=topic=12448.msg369297#msg369297 date=1188601207]
YAY!! I bet that Stinger baby is gorgeous!
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I second that! :smiley:
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Can't wait to see a picture of her!! :smiley: :wink:

Also I saw that Big Red Farm got the Smarty colt out of Confidently by Storm Cat, tachyon. For $350K I think. Confidently is a full sister to Yankee Gentleman and to Zing, the dam of Half Ours, and their dam is G1 winner Key Phrase. I remember reading that they really liked this colt as a foal, and I hope he does well in Japan :smiley:
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I have been looking for a picture for a long time, but without success so far.
As soon as I get it, I will surely come back with it. :wink:

[charismatic146]

Definitely! That is probably a gorgeous baby!