Missing Pedigrees

[miesque1973]

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to post this in this group or in the breeding group. But either way, maybe somebody has some info?

I've got a list of Dansk (Danish) Oaks winners and just slogged my way through them all, hoping to get the full list posted at bloodlines.net before too long (the Dansk Derby is taking longer - many missing pedigrees!). But some of the winners' pedigrees elude me. In all cases, I've got sire/dam/broodmare sire and the 'alleged' family # of each filly, but I can't completely vouch for the accuracy of the information I have. So anyway...here's the fillies I can't find:

CINARAMA(Ger), bay 1961 Nebelwerfer
x Tutti(Ger), b. 1955 by Ticino
x Tulipane(Ger), 1944 by Janitor
x ??

Obviously, I need connections back to known mares on record.

The rest:

LUCIA, 1953 De Albertis
x Luminous, ??, by Felicitation
x ??
My list says Lucia is from family #16h

DOLLARPIGEN, 1952 Bois Mill
x Dollarprincessen, ??, by Rookwood
x ??
My list says Dollarpigen is from family #5i

SERVIA, 1951 Skymaster(DEN)
Serpenette, ??, by Sea Serpent
x ??
My list says Servia is from family #3g

AFFRIOLET, 1948 Merry Boy
x Affriolante, ??, by Gris Perle
x ??
My list says Affriolet is from family #2r

RADHEN AJU, 1947 Gangster
x Ballet, ??, by General Buller
x ??
My list says Radhen Aju is from family #14f

TEXAS GIRL, 1944 Gunnel
x Merula, ??, by Rameses
x ??
My list says Texas Girl is from family #26

If at all possible, I need each horses year of birth, country of birth, and coat color, as bloodlines.net really likes for info to be as concise and accurate as it can before stakes histories are posted for public viewing. If anyone can go back at least four generations from the Oaks winner in question, in the female line, that would be extremely helpful. I have to wonder if the female line of Cinarama will prove harder to trace - her 2nd dam was foaled right at the end of WWII in Germany. Was her dam 'confiscated' (i.e., stolen) by the Nazis? Hm...it made me wonder, though it could all just be my imagination and the pedigree is out there somewhere after all.

By the way, my Dansk classic list was linked to me by tachyon, and I'm having a ball with them. It's tough cutting my way through the winners' lists (and I have no idea what the color coat designations mean in the Excel file - "mbr hp" ???), but I've wanted to fiddle with the Scandinavian classic histories for so long! Between the Dansk Classics and also working on the Indian classics, I'm enjoying myself a lot! :grin:

~Miesque

[xfactor fan]

Tutti

http://www.pedigreequery.com/tutti4

Nebelwerfer

http://www.pedigreequery.com/nebelwerfer

Tulipane

http://www.pedigreequery.com/tulipane

At least parts of the pedigrees are in the Del Mar Pedigree database.

pedigreequery.com


Equine Line
http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/index.htm

Hope these help.

[miesque1973]

Looking for a rather obscure mare:

ARACHNE'S DAUGHTER, yob unknown, sired by Pelops. Dam of Dansk 2000 Guineas winner Arach (foaled 1933) & Dansk St. Leger winner Suomi (foaled 1941). I can't find her pedigree, but the Dansk classic winner lists show the mare is from family #16.

Beyond that, I can't find a thing. Weatherby's has locked me out (password worked yesterday! Grrrr!), and none of the other online databases have her.

~Miesque