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    Empire Maker to Japan

    Per Ed DeRosa of the Thoroughbred Times. Watch their site for more.

    "Juddmonte has sold Empire Maker to JBBA for stud duty in Japan"
    http://twitter.com/EJXD2/status/3213293917306880
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    Harrison Bergeron
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    Re: Empire Maker to Japan

    Quote Originally Posted by Railbird View Post
    Per Ed DeRosa of the Thoroughbred Times. Watch their site for more.

    "Juddmonte has sold Empire Maker to JBBA for stud duty in Japan"
    http://twitter.com/EJXD2/status/3213293917306880
    I'll make some popcorn while waiting for the "OMG we better watch out for him, remember what they did to Ferdinand" posts.

    The money is in that neck of the woods, I'm sure we'll see more horses sent to places that are in a better financial position.

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    Re: Empire Maker to Japan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harrison Bergeron View Post
    I'll make some popcorn while waiting for the "OMG we better watch out for him, remember what they did to Ferdinand" posts.

    The money is in that neck of the woods, I'm sure we'll see more horses sent to places that are in a better financial position.
    =X
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrison Bergeron View Post
    I'll make some popcorn while waiting for the "OMG we better watch out for him, remember what they did to Ferdinand" posts.

    The money is in that neck of the woods, I'm sure we'll see more horses sent to places that are in a better financial position.
    The fact is Japan does NOT have alot of open land. If a stallion or mare doesn't live up to expectations, there is no where for them to go...Japan does not have "horse rescues" or "retirements"
    If horses cannot breed and produce successfully, they have no purpose there. That is a FACT.
    Last edited by wooley85; 11-12-2010 at 01:50 PM.

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    Someone told me this the other day and I said no possible way. Wow. He's already gone, by the way.
    Nobody said giving Kirstie Alley a colonic would be easy.

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    Re: Empire Maker to Japan

    Quote Originally Posted by wooley85 View Post
    The fact is Japan does NOT have alot of open land. If a stallion or mare doesn't live up to expectations, there is no where for them to go...Japan does not have "horse rescues" or "retirements"
    If horses cannot breed and produce successfully, they have no purpose there. That is a FACT.
    So what is their purpose here if they cannot breed and produce successfully?

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    Wow i am shocked about this. Juddmonte gave no hint when i visited the recent summer. They loved this horse, it is so obvious- talked a lot about him unlike the other boys they had and also tugged on his tongue. so cute.

    Sorry to see him go.

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    Re: Empire Maker to Japan

    Quote Originally Posted by Song of Solomon View Post
    I'm shocked. If it were another owner, I'd chalk it up to the inability to turn down that big of offer, but with this owner? Puzzling.
    That's how I feel. Did not see this one coming.

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    He'll probably have a Triple Crown winner next year.

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    Re: Empire Maker to Japan

    Quote Originally Posted by Song of Solomon View Post
    I'm shocked. If it were another owner, I'd chalk it up to the inability to turn down that big of offer, but with this owner? Puzzling.
    I too was shocked, but you know, Empire Maker has had some nice runners, but NOT with Juddmonte. All those great mares of theirs that he was bred to and what do they have to show for it? They're also selling a lot of their first crop fillies at Keeneland too.

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    Re: Empire Maker to Japan

    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    So what is their purpose here if they cannot breed and produce successfully?
    They have a chance of avoiding the dog food can... to retire somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    So what is their purpose here if they cannot breed and produce successfully?
    They have a chance of avoiding the dog food can... to retire somewhere or find second career.

    You must be one of those people in FL that "eats their unproductive"mares to make that comment.

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    Wow.

    I have no doubt Empire Maker will NOT end up at the slaughterhouse, but certainly his unsuccessful get will.

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    I didn't see this coming either, but I've always thought he's underperformed with the breathtaking quality of mares he had been receiving.

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    it make sense, he really is a turf sire at the end of the day. they value that more over there than we do here.


    sad to see him go though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerEssence View Post
    Wow.

    I have no doubt Empire Maker will NOT end up at the slaughterhouse, but certainly his unsuccessful get will.
    They would in the USA too.

    You're forgetting that many stallion stations, including the JBBA, are located in the rural island of Hokkaido, and Japanese farms DO pension their studs. There's definitely a Ferdinand clause in the sales contract.

    As we've learned, even relatively successful stallions are not immune from being sent abroad. See: Black Tie Affair, Victory Gallop, Lion Heart, Cuvee, Johannesburg, Dehere, Stravinsky, Wild Rush, Afleet, Coronado's Quest, Forty Niner...

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    the more i think about it the more it just makes sense. eh's a pefect japanese stallion. favors turf but can get you a good dirt horse, will run all day doesn't have any sunday silence blood.

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    Re: Empire Maker to Japan

    Quote Originally Posted by wooley85 View Post
    They have a chance of avoiding the dog food can... to retire somewhere or find second career.

    You must be one of those people in FL that "eats their unproductive"mares to make that comment.
    I just find it extremely arrogant that Americans think they take care of their horses so much better than anyone else in the world, and give them long retirements. You might be stunned to know how many horses have been put down because they are "unproductive".....here......not there.

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    Hate to see horses going to Japan....especially this one.

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