Anyone heard of Midlife Crisis Thoroughbreds?

[JT Dancer]

http://www.midlifecrisisthoroughbreds.com/home

They have Achilles of Troy and one other stallion that used to be at Fever Stallions. Is this another Paragello farm?

[Flanders]

No. I don't know where to start with the article I found. The article reads like Paragallo dumped a bunch of crap horses on this guy for free. And the guy thinks he is going to breed the next world champion, that part was from the webpage you listed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/sports/30horse.html

[HolyBull]

No. I don't know where to start with the article I found. The article reads like Paragallo dumped a bunch of crap horses on this guy for free. And the guy thinks he is going to breed the next world champion, that part was from the webpage you listed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/sports/30horse.html

Wow apparently this horse called Big Unit is going to be the sire of the next world champion. World champion of what?

However, I guess New York Hero isn't total junk.

[Flanders]

Wow apparently this horse called Big Unit is going to be the sire of the next world champion. World champion of what?

However, I guess New York Hero isn't total junk.

I think there is more going on here than the article said. Why the hell would Paragallo send this guy 5 stallions and 10 mares for free?

[wooley85]

[QUOTE=Flanders;139065]I think there is more going on here than the article said. Why the hell would Paragallo send this guy 5 stallions and 10 mares for free?[/QUOTE

Paragallo is banned from NY racing in any form, and The Jockey Club will NOT register any Paragallo "owned" horses.
http://jockeyclub.com/mediaCenter.asp?story=447

The Ky guy is probably a front for Paragallo who probably is pulling the strings and probably helping with $$$...selling the guy bs...

Unfortunately, Paragallo had some very good race horses...Lord of The Thunder and NY Hero were good racers. I think he had a 2nd in the Preakness.

The problem was Paragallo was really the trainer dictating to real trainers. ..overruling them, like one trainer he had, Pedersen who quit when Paragallo ran an injured horse over her objections. Might have been Achilles of Troy.
Paragallo is a sociopath. Still trying to maneuver around.

Lest anyone forget what an amoral thing Paragallo is:

http://paragallomaresatsquirrelwood.blogspot.com/

[HolyBull]

"he lives with his father and mother, Emerson and Sue"

What a success!

And, yes, something is up here. I'm not sure if this guy even realizes he's part of some kind of scam.

[halo]

And he's sending a mare to Unbridled's Song? Like Paragallo gave him that too?

Will be interesting to follow the ownership in that one. I smell a rat here.

[Pronzini]

And he's sending a mare to Unbridled's Song? Like Paragallo gave him that too?

Will be interesting to follow the ownership in that one. I smell a rat here.

I did too but it could be a foal share.

[wooley85]

I did too but it could be a foal share.

How does that work...a "foal share" with a criminal who CAN't register any TB's with the JC?

[SCHARM456]

Sounds as if Paragallo wants to race horses vicariously. Pay all the bills and such and have this guy race them in his name. Hopefully the law prevents this.

[wooley85]

I don't see anything particularly odd here. Everyone with excess horses wishes they had someone to whom they could send a bunch. One may think the taker of these horses isn't being very realistic of his chances of success, but he's not the first and won't be the last and we all probably have at least an itsy piece of that dream in us which is why we do it.

As for the UBS season, it sounds like a gift with the agreement that they split the proceeds on the sale of the offspring.

Just what the breeding industry needs in 2010...more unwanted horses.

I realize you have always been ambivalent re Paragallo and his crime. Did you follow that sad tale? Paragallo would pick and choose which of the 177 horses would be fed. The rest were deliberately starved...not worth wasting a penny on anything...full of mites, starving until they dropped dead. THAT is ALL on the record.

Now, you are defending Paragallo sending more "excess horses" to some backyard KY breeder...as if their aren't enough unwanted horsses. Exactly, what do YOU think is going to happen to the dregs he breeds with this guy?

Reputable breeders cannot sell their stock...but Paragallo and Backyard Breeder Joe are going to be shooting for the stars...Exactly how many G-1 winners did Paragallo breed in the 20 years he was breeding hundreds, and hundreds, if not thousands of horses?

And where do you believe Paragallo's rejects went? The lucky ones did in situ on the farm.

And now, you are defending the same actions that finally got Paragallo convicted. Did Paragallo EVER offer money to the state and rescues that helped 150 of Paragallo's starving horses? NO. But you hardily endorse Parafallo's right to be the money man in another ill-fated breeding venture with another lowlife.

And that JC rule is like everything else in the KY horse business...a sham.

[wooley85]

Wooley, in your desire to see Paragallo burned at the stake, you lose rationality.

Paragallo needed to get rid of a lot of horses. He didn't send these to slaughter or to someplace where they're being starved, but instead to a man who to our knowledge is taking good care of them. So where's the grievance? That he's going to breed them? That's not against any laws, and it's also against no JC rules, which rightly don't tell us that we can't breed any mare worth less than $100,000 (or whatever level of worth they could put on the mares).

As for any money that you think he should've paid for his crimes, that was up to the judge, not you and not me.

I'm not "hardily endorsing" anything -- I'm asking for more thought to be put into these discussions instead of letting yourself be led by your emotions. It's irrational to conclude that someone shouldn't be able to do something unless it's against the law or one can make a strong case for a law or rule that should be passed that would preclude this from happening. No one has offered that.

Paragallo's entire stock was confiscated in NY. All 177 horses on his farm....most of them... the dead walking. None of these horses were saved by Paragallo for breeding or any the purpose.

Paragallo had a few stallions "stashed in LI". Now, he is going to continue the "backyard breeding" routine with some KY back yard breeder. I fail to understand how anyone can condone this amoral behavior....including you.

Murder is against the law and people do it. So, becasue Paragallo has his conviction for 2 years in jail pending on appeal in NY, he isn't breaking any law repeating his routine with a backyard KY breeder...and according to you...that is A-OK.

Well, I have a different set of moral principals than you do.
I don't care if Paragallo isn't breaking any law. He is an amoral sociopath that has tortured helpless animals. I have a big problem with that. Obviously, you don't.

[Moonglow756]

Instead of slamming the guy, why doesn't someone pick up the phone and call Greg McAfee at MidLife Crisis and ask him some questions? He's very friendly. From what I've read on this thread nobody has bothered to call him and ask about his farm and stallions.

[Psychotic Parakeet]

Instead of slamming the guy, why doesn't someone pick up the phone and call Greg McAfee at MidLife Crisis and ask him some questions? He's very friendly. From what I've read on this thread nobody has bothered to call him and ask about his farm and stallions.

Moonglow756,

It is useless in trying to talk sense around here. What you suggested is excellent. Whether or not someone will have the druthers to do so is another question.

[wooley85]

Moonglow756,

It is useless in trying to talk sense around here. What you suggested is excellent. Whether or not someone will have the druthers to do so is another question.

And the conversation will go like this you "stupids"


ME: Hey Gregg I understand you are in business with Ernie Paragallo.

Greg: He is a great guy. Owns part of UBS. I'm going to breed a KD winner.

Me: Oh really. How is that going to happen?

Greg: Ernie is going to get me a couple of seasons to UBS. You know, "he owns UBS"

Me: Ah Greg, Ernie maybe owns only a few seasons to UBS. He has sold off 90% of his ownership.

Greg: That is not true. Ernie owns the horse and we are going to breed a KD winner.

Me: How do you feel being in business with a "horse torturer"?

Greg: Ernie is a great guy. That trouble in NY was all media hype.

Me: You know, Ernie is a convicted felon...got 2 yrs in jail which he is appealing for starving 177 horses at his farm in NY.

Greg: That is not true. Ernie told me that the NY racing people were "jealous "of him.

Me: The NYT had pictures of scores of starving and diseased horses at his farm.

Greg: The horses were thin becasue they just came off the track. Nothing was wrong with them. We are going to breed a KD winner. Me and Ernie.

Me: But Greg, ther NYS police and the Humane Society confiscated his farm and
scores of starving and dying horses.

Greg: That is not true. Ernie was railroaded by NY. We are going to breed a KD winner.

Me: But Greg, a judge in NY saw the pictures, heard testimony and gave Ernie 2
in jail.

Greg: All a mistake. Ernie is a great guy. We are going to breed a KD winner.

Me: Ernie Paragallo cannot register any horses with the Jockey Club.

Greg: Not true. Ernie is a great guy. We are going to breed a KD winner.

Me: But if Ernie's name is listed as owner, you cannot register the foal withthe JC.

Greg: Ernie is a brilliant businessman and breeder. He is going to lend me his stallions
so we can breed a KD winner. That is why Ernie picked me to be his partner.

Me: The market is really tight now. Well known breeders can't sell. Why will
you and Ernie succeed?

Greg: Ernie is a great guy. We are going to breed a KD winner.

[pokeyman]

Wooley, FWIW-I agree with you. Just letting you know that you are not on an island about this......

[wooley85]

Wooley, FWIW-I agree with you. Just letting you know that you are not on an island about this......

Ditto.

"Everyone" has amnesia.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...elty_case.html


http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/201...years-in-jail/


http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1I7...ed=0CCYQsAQwAQ


http://www.equineconnection.org/foru...&tid=152&iid=1


http://equinejustice.blogspot.com/20...paragallo.html

[wooley85]

No one has amnesia. Giving someone some horses has nothing at all to do with what Paragallo was convicted of.

Of course it does...The ONLY reason Paragallo is "giving STALLIONS HE OWNS" to this "backyard breeder" is PRECISELY BECASUE PARAGALLO CANNOT REGISTER HIS FOALS WITH THE JC.

That is perfectly clear...except to you who continue to defend Paragallo's actions.

The FACT is, for whatever reason, you have, for years defended the opposite position than the one I have taken...going back to the first Michael Gill blow-up in Delaware. You are the one wearing the blinkers. Your apparent dislike of me clouds your reality. THAT is a FACT.

[Moonglow756]

Wooley, I'll bet you don't have the guts to call MidLife Crisis yourself. So easy to hide behind a computer screen and keyboard and spew your venom. Let us know when you grow a pair.

[pokeyman]

Wooley, I support your statements. Sometimes, it's better to agree to disagree as, people on this forum can get nasty and personal. So, hold your head up and try to ignore!