Farms and Fans

[Claim To Fame]

It was a gift from my husband for our 2nd anniversary. I love it and it shoots great photos.

My Dad trys to breed for soundness, and will not under any circumstances breed to an UBS line horse. He's also tries to avoid inbreeding in the first 4 generations. I have a friend who pulls OTTB's off the track for retraining as hunter/jumpers or pleasure mounts and has had issues with UBS horses not being sound enough for anything other then the occasional hack through the woods.

I love looking at UBS's but try to stay away from them. I'd like to avoid inbreeding but sometimes it's just too hard to pass up, and look really good on paper, we try to match them up physically and see if the sire had any major issues while running so for us we did a 4x3 to Mr. P.

[ourmims]

I love looking at UBS's but try to stay away from them. I'd like to avoid inbreeding but sometimes it's just too hard to pass up, and look really good on paper, we try to match them up physically and see if the sire had any major issues while running so for us we did a 4x3 to Mr. P.

That's his theory as well. He makes an attempt to breed to horses that retired sound, but if they did not come off the track sound then he looks to see if he throws sound horses. If he came off the track unsound and he throws unsound horses then it's a no for him.

[Catinca]

This time when I go there, after I'm finished w/ looking at Flatter I will take pictures of the burial site, they are all near the office right?

The main cemetery is, yes. There is also Marchmont, which is generally not open to visitors though.

[mariasmon]

I heard they'd changed the policy on Marchmont?

[Claim To Fame]

I heard they'd changed the policy on Marchmont?

I feel like an idiot for asking but whats Marchmont?

[mariasmon]

I feel like an idiot for asking but whats Marchmont?

It's another area of Claiborne that has a cemetery where a lot of notables are buried. Danzig, Phipps mares, etc.

[Claim To Fame]

It's another area of Claiborne that has a cemetery where a lot of notables are buried. Danzig, Phipps mares, etc.

WOW! Thanks MM

[flytothestars]

I heard they'd changed the policy on Marchmont?

like what is changed in the policy?

[Purcocious]

I went to Wintergreen to look at Pollard's Vision and Elite Squadron and nobody was there to show me around there was one groom but he didn't know much about either of them. It was a Tuesday at 11am so not like it was after hours, needless to say we were not happy and did not breed to them nor will we think about them.

Yeah, we ended up going with Nobiz at Darby Dan's instead. I believe I went early afternoon and they knew I was coming. You would think they would want me to get a nice look at the stallion I'm interested in breeding a mare to, but apparently not. And they probably wonder why we went elsewhere.

[Claim To Fame]

Yeah, we ended up going with Nobiz at Darby Dan's instead. I believe I went early afternoon and they knew I was coming. You would think they would want me to get a nice look at the stallion I'm interested in breeding a mare to, but apparently not. And they probably wonder why we went elsewhere.

It just amazes me, no offense to that farm but it's not like they have Giant's Causeway. Pollard's Vision is a nice horse but with that kind of treatment after setting the appointment and calling to double check they had nobody to show us and answer questions. A couple of days later John Greely called and asked if we were going to sign the papers...needless to say we told them we will be looking in a different direction.

When are you expecting your Nobiz baby? I was there to look at Suave and Perfect Soul last year and they ended up pulling out Nobiz and Tale Of Ekati as a bonus. Really nice people at Darby Dan. We were leaning to Suave until he got moved.

[mariasmon]

like what is changed in the policy?

Like, if you ask, somebody will probably take you over there. Whereas before, they usually said no.

[Hermes]

It just amazes me, no offense to that farm but it's not like they have Giant's Causeway. Pollard's Vision is a nice horse but with that kind of treatment after setting the appointment and calling to double check they had nobody to show us and answer questions. A couple of days later John Greely called and asked if we were going to sign the papers...needless to say we told them we will be looking in a different direction.

When are you expecting your Nobiz baby? I was there to look at Suave and Perfect Soul last year and they ended up pulling out Nobiz and Tale Of Ekati as a bonus. Really nice people at Darby Dan. We were leaning to Suave until he got moved.

Why would you have the contract if you weren't set on the horse? And did you tell Greely that your decision hinged on seeing the horse, and you did not feel that you were accommodated?

[Purcocious]

It just amazes me, no offense to that farm but it's not like they have Giant's Causeway. Pollard's Vision is a nice horse but with that kind of treatment after setting the appointment and calling to double check they had nobody to show us and answer questions. A couple of days later John Greely called and asked if we were going to sign the papers...needless to say we told them we will be looking in a different direction.

When are you expecting your Nobiz baby? I was there to look at Suave and Perfect Soul last year and they ended up pulling out Nobiz and Tale Of Ekati as a bonus. Really nice people at Darby Dan. We were leaning to Suave until he got moved.

Our Nobiz is a yearling this year and we ended up going back to Darby Dan's to breed our mare to Sun King for a 2011 foal. Working with them has been great. Ryan even drove up to our farm in Ohio (a good 5 hour drive) one afternoon just to look at our filly, take a few pictures, and see if we had made any decisions about what we wanted to do with her. It's really nice when a farm will make the extra effort, especially when you've been to one that doesn't.

[Claim To Fame]

Like, if you ask, somebody will probably take you over there. Whereas before, they usually said no.

Very interesting MM! I will have to see if they can take me over there. Last year we were there and it was toward the end of the breeding season and War Front had a mating and it was unusually loud and lots of banging around, at one point a couple of the guys that were showing us Arch, had to leave to help out. We got some alone time with Arch which was nice and we saw War Front come out and he was a little bloodied...We knew they had to take care of him so we left early and didn't have time to take pictures of the burial site as they were worried about War Front, later I found out he was ok.

[Claim To Fame]

Why would you have the contract if you weren't set on the horse? And did you tell Greely that your decision hinged on seeing the horse, and you did not feel that you were accommodated?

I didn't have the contract, apparently he left it with whoever was suppose to show us around. I told him what happened and he said he would find out what happened with the guy that was suppose to show us and get back to us, he never did. It was kind of strange for him to have a contract set up

[mariasmon]

If you're really lucky, maybe they'll let you see the pensioned stallions over there.

[Claim To Fame]

Our Nobiz is a yearling this year and we ended up going back to Darby Dan's to breed our mare to Sun King for a 2011 foal. Working with them has been great. Ryan even drove up to our farm in Ohio (a good 5 hour drive) one afternoon just to look at our filly, take a few pictures, and see if we had made any decisions about what we wanted to do with her. It's really nice when a farm will make the extra effort, especially when you've been to one that doesn't.

Ryan is a great guy. He said he is hoping for good things with Sun King, he told me if he had a mare and pedigree wasn't an issue he would go with Sun King.

[Claim To Fame]

If you're really lucky, maybe they'll let you see the pensioned stallions over there.

One can dream!

[mariasmon]

I'd be really excited to see Boundary and Lure.

[Hermes]

Very interesting MM! I will have to see if they can take me over there. Last year we were there and it was toward the end of the breeding season and War Front had a mating and it was unusually loud and lots of banging around, at one point a couple of the guys that were showing us Arch, had to leave to help out. We got some alone time with Arch which was nice and we saw War Front come out and he was a little bloodied...We knew they had to take care of him so we left early and didn't have time to take pictures of the burial site as they were worried about War Front, later I found out he was ok.

Just gonna say it. Posting this much info on a message board is not going to endear you to any farm. Especially Claiborne. They probably won't connect any dots or even read this, but I think it is really bad form to repeat an incident like that here.