Dutrow denied

[algobbi]

A Licensing Review Committee of the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission on Wednesday denied Rick Dutrow a racing license, putting in jeopardy the trainer’s ability to start horses at any time this year in the state.

The review committee, meeting in a conference room of the offices of Travis Burr, chairman of the Licensing Review Committee, denied the license after questioning Dutrow for just more than hour about his license application, which was filed Tuesday afternoon.

http://www.drf.com/news/kentucky-com...racing-license

[Vertigo]

Actually pretty bummed to have Amen Hallelujah and Court Vision scratch, but this is definitely very good news

[pat]

Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups

It appears hysterical morons have succeeded in the campaign to oust one of the few competent trainers in the business. While the TRF and other gross offenders get a pass.

[wesley30]

Like!!!!!

[PJMIII]

Good for Kentucky. Glad to see them take this action. Hopefully New York is paying attention.

[ricquelle]

Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups

It appears hysterical morons have succeeded in the campaign to oust one of the few competent trainers in the business. While the TRF and other gross offenders get a pass.

Dutrow, who was not represented by legal counsel at the hearing, said most of the drug-related offenses on his record were due to overages of therapeutic medications. In the instances of the two most significant violations, for illegal medications for which the horses tested positive, Dutrow said neither he nor his staff were aware of how the medications could have been in the horses’ systems during the post-race tests.

He also said any misinformation on his license applications were not intentional but were due to the fact others completed the paperwork for him, and he just signed it.



Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1JQfBhRIc

IMO...Competent trainers don't "just not know how medications get into their horses on multiple occasions (conveniently the most significant violations) nor do they let someone else fill out the license paperwork for them and just sign it without ensuring it is correct (esp. when he knows he is being scrutinized so closely)".

Rick has an excuse for everything...and it is never his fault.

[Ty88]

Dutrow is a scapegoat. Worse offenders will go right on doing what they do. The sport will pat its back and look prideful over this and I doubt the worst guys, the guys that actually kill horses, will ever get their own. Dutrow doesn't kill horses. They're after him because they don't like his mouth, and I've read articles where more people comment on how annoying he is than how many drug positives he has. This is a schoolyard beat-down of the fat outcast kid disguised as a lawful proceeding. It's shameful.

[TapitsGal]

does Dutrow have any Derby contenders this will affect?And I do feel bad for the guy.

[gravano]

I can't tell if this means Court Vision won't run in the Makers Mile. Anyone know?

[ricquelle]

I can't tell if this means Court Vision won't run in the Makers Mile. Anyone know?

Because of the denial, two horses trained by Dutrow were set to be scratched from stakes races at Keeneland on Thursday and Friday. Barring a legal maneuver that would award Dutrow a license prior to post time, Amen Hallelujah – solely owned by IEAH – will be scratched from Thursday’s Vinery Madison Stakes, while the second, Court Vision – owned in partnership by IEAH – will be scratched from the Grade 1 Maker’s Mark Mile on Friday.

http://www.drf.com/news/kentucky-com...racing-license

Sounds like he will be scratched to me.

Also sounds like IEAH may be removing their horses:

Michael Iavarone, president of IEAH Stables – which owned Dutrow’s 2008 Kentucky Derby winner Big Brown – said Wednesday following the decision that the partnership is now considering whether to remove its 10 horses from the trainer. “That’s all got to be discussed with our partners,” Iavarone said. “Obviously, we can’t be in a position where our horses can’t run in certain jurisdictions.”\

[GeorgeWashington]

He deserves it because he is an arrogant jerk about this stuff. He gets positives and just sort of acts like it is a joke. I bet they denied him because he was arrogant and acted untouchable.

[Man o' Taz]

does Dutrow have any Derby contenders this will affect?And I do feel bad for the guy.

Flashpoint?

[Paladin]

Flashpoint?

Yep, that's about it but he's 27th on the earnings list.

[pat]

IMO...Competent trainers don't "just not know how medications get into their horses on multiple occasions (conveniently the most significant violations) nor do they let someone else fill out the license paperwork for them and just sign it without ensuring it is correct (esp. when he knows he is being scrutinized so closely)".

Rick has an excuse for everything...and it is never his fault.

Even Dr. Rick Arthur admits 85% of all bad tests are not due to purposely doping horses. They are unintentional accidents, malicious sabotage or pure mistakes. Dutrow's record of bad tests is better than a lot of the celebrity pretty-boy trainers. Dutrow's infractions are mostly administrative (and failure to make lip contact with the arse of the elite).

[Horse's Rear]

Dutrow's infractions are mostly administrative (and failure to make lip contact with the arse of the elite).

Which, in and of itself, is remarkable, considering the size of the target.

[Purcocious]

Dutrow is a scapegoat. Worse offenders will go right on doing what they do. The sport will pat its back and look prideful over this and I doubt the worst guys, the guys that actually kill horses, will ever get their own. Dutrow doesn't kill horses. They're after him because they don't like his mouth, and I've read articles where more people comment on how annoying he is than how many drug positives he has. This is a schoolyard beat-down of the fat outcast kid disguised as a lawful proceeding. It's shameful.

Would you happen to have somewhere to look at how many violations other trainers have had? 64 infractions seems like a lot to me, but I suppose it could be relatively low compared to others. You just never see those numbers until something like this comes up.

[Holla]

Would you happen to have somewhere to look at how many violations other trainers have had? 64 infractions seems like a lot to me, but I suppose it could be relatively low compared to others. You just never see those numbers until something like this comes up.

Of the 64 infractions, I do believe 13 are drug positives. Mostly bute and lasix overages. A positive or two for clenbuterol. The rest are for things like not having the foal papers on file, coming late to the paddock, and assorted other administrative boo-boos.

I can't remember the exact number for Asmussen, but if I remember correctly when this all was being bandied about in 2008 during Big Brown's run, Asmussen's record is somewhat similar to Dutrow's. I can't be positive about that though, because I never downloaded the reports.

[Harrison Bergeron]

Of the 64 infractions, I do believe 13 are drug positives. Mostly bute and lasix overages. A positive or two for clenbuterol. The rest are for things like not having the foal papers on file, coming late to the paddock, and assorted other administrative boo-boos.

I can't remember the exact number for Asmussen, but if I remember correctly when this all was being bandied about in 2008 during Big Brown's run, Asmussen's record is somewhat similar to Dutrow's. I can't be positive about that though, because I never downloaded the reports.

Here you go (according to Paulick)
http://staging.digome.com/paulickrep...trow-74-to-72/

and here's Dutrow's from DRF

http://www.drf.com/blogs/bad-rap-sheet?page=4

[Holla]

Here you go (according to Paulick)
http://staging.digome.com/paulickrep...trow-74-to-72/

and here's Dutrow's from DRF

http://www.drf.com/blogs/bad-rap-sheet?page=4

I'm just curious - weren't some of the violations noted on the record later expunged when conditions were met? I think that's why I have a lower number of violations. Of course, I could just be splitting hairs. I've been known to do that.

Never mind - I just noticed you posted the article from Steve Crist that went into further detail.

[Wando]

Of the 64 infractions, I do believe 13 are drug positives. Mostly bute and lasix overages. A positive or two for clenbuterol. The rest are for things like not having the foal papers on file, coming late to the paddock, and assorted other administrative boo-boos.

I can't remember the exact number for Asmussen, but if I remember correctly when this all was being bandied about in 2008 during Big Brown's run, Asmussen's record is somewhat similar to Dutrow's. I can't be positive about that though, because I never downloaded the reports.

I'm curious I remember reading when Rachel was still running that Asmussen was supposed to serve a 6 month suspension, the second such suspension. Did he ever serve it or is he still appealing or was it changed?