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    Imagining looks like a future turf star

    Has the pedigree and today he looked like a horse with grade 1 wins down the road. 4yr old season should be HUGE.

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    Re: Imagining looks like a future turf star

    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker View Post
    Has the pedigree and today he looked like a horse with grade 1 wins down the road. 4yr old season should be HUGE.
    the wire to wire winner in the turf MAIDEN???
    Time was not close to anything meaningful got an easy lead and was not challenged...Powder puff 1:50 after a 50 half....That is maiden quality alright

    The YARDSTICK of quality is pace pressure...have that same guy stick around a 1:11 and then come on later in 31 seconds and you might have something, but not walking around the course with nonwinners.
    Last edited by zilzal; 09-21-2011 at 11:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker View Post
    Has the pedigree and today he looked like a horse with grade 1 wins down the road. 4yr old season should be HUGE.
    You have some opinion.

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    Re: Imagining looks like a future turf star

    look for Monument Hill or Gathering Cloud to be on the board in the next one, 7th Belmont

    may have to consider the 5 as well in exotics
    Last edited by zilzal; 09-21-2011 at 12:11 PM.

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    the usual on the green the BOTTOM ZACTA with ALL on top

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    Re: Imagining looks like a future turf star

    Could it be between 8 and 6 again in the 8th at Belmont? with the 5 prompting early

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    Re: Imagining looks like a future turf star

    9th is difficult as it could be amongst 5 easily 1 3 9 10 14

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    Re: Imagining looks like a future turf star

    Quote Originally Posted by zilzal View Post
    9th is difficult as it could be amongst 5 easily 1 3 9 10 14
    9 12 8 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker View Post
    Has the pedigree and today he looked like a horse with grade 1 wins down the road. 4yr old season should be HUGE.
    I Agree!!!

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    Re: Imagining looks like a future turf star

    Quote Originally Posted by raven View Post
    I Agree!!!
    based upon what? A single powder puff win against as soft a turf pace as any horse will ever meet?

    Strange

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    Quote Originally Posted by zilzal View Post
    based upon what? A single powder puff win against as soft a turf pace as any horse will ever meet?

    Strange
    It Is My Opinion!!! And B.T.W I Am strange, i am a horseplayer!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raven View Post
    It Is My Opinion!!! And B.T.W I Am strange, i am a horseplayer!!
    would be nice to have some objective evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker View Post
    Has the pedigree and today he looked like a horse with grade 1 wins down the road. 4yr old season should be HUGE.
    I hope so, he ran really well today. I love his pedigree.
    Last edited by Allspice; 09-21-2011 at 03:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allspice View Post
    I hope so, he ran really well today. I love his pedigree.

    Imagining ran a nice race. Went w-w on lead. Won by 5+ in hand.

    Beat a field of expensively bred 3yr old maidens. 7/10 had less than 2 life time races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 85wooley View Post
    Imagining ran a nice race. Went w-w on lead. Won by 5+ in hand.

    Beat a field of expensively bred 3yr old maidens. 7/10 had less than 2 life time races.
    beat a field of powder puffs..Wait until this one meets a real pace challenge and THEN tell me how great it is.

    Breeding is a theoretical bunch of guesses. PERFORMANCE in a contest separates that theoretical form the REAL

    Ever actual study genetics? First, none of the breeders actually knows what genes produce what. Second, they are using phenotype to try and reproduce genotype,which by itself is really ridiculous, and third, based upon the studies of human genetics which has fewer chromosomes (quote from Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine, p. 340 13th edition.."The independent assortment of chromosomes into gametes during meiosis produces an enormous diversity among the possible genotypes of the progeny. For each 23 pairs of chromosomes, there are 1 to the 23rd power different combinations of chromosomes that COULD occur in a gamete, and the likelihood that one set of parents will produce two offspring with the identical complement of chromosomes is 1 in 2 to the 23rd power or 1 in 8.4 milling (assuming no monozygotic or identical twins.)"

    Don't know what genotype causes the phenotype and horse have 64 chromosomes which INCREASES the variability generating the offspring...A FEEBLE probability at predicting the genotype of the offspring.
    Last edited by zilzal; 09-21-2011 at 05:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zilzal View Post
    beat a field of powder puffs..Wait until this one meets a real pace challenge and THEN tell me how great it is.

    Breeding is a theoretical bunch of guesses. PERFORMANCE in a contest separates that theoretical form the REAL

    Ever actual study genetics? First, none of the breeders actually knows what genes produce what. Second, they are using phenotype to try and reproduce genotype,which by itself is really ridiculous, and third, based upon the studies of human genetics which has fewer chromosomes (quote from Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine, p. 340 13th edition.."The independent assortment of chromosomes into gametes during meiosis produces an enormous diversity among the possible genotypes of the progeny. For each 23 pairs of chromosomes, there are 1 to the 23rd power different combinations of chromosomes that COULD occur in a gamete, and the likelihood that one set of parents will produce two offspring with the identical complement of chromosomes is 1 in 2 to the 23rd power or 1 in 8.4 milling (assuming no monozygotic or identical twins.)"

    Don't know what genotype causes the phenotype and horse have 64 chromosomes which INCREASES the variability generating the offspring...A FEEBLE probability at predicting the genotype of the offspring.
    Blah..blah...blah...your stock in trade "baffle 'em with bullshrt"

    I WATCH races and KNOW what I saw. Horse ran a very nice race.

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    Re: Imagining looks like a future turf star

    Quote Originally Posted by 85wooley View Post
    Imagining ran a nice race. Went w-w on lead. Won by 5+ in hand.

    Beat a field of expensively bred 3yr old maidens. 7/10 had less than 2 life time races.
    Yep. Best part is he doesn't need the lead. He closed from way back in his first two when he finished second. Went about five or six wide in his first to miss by a neck and was about that wide in his second race as well but wasn't able make up much ground on the leader who won by about three or so.
    Last edited by Allspice; 09-21-2011 at 05:38 PM.
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    Re: Imagining looks like a future turf star

    Quote Originally Posted by 85wooley View Post
    Blah..blah...blah...your stock in trade "baffle 'em with bullshrt"

    I WATCH races and KNOW what I saw. Horse ran a very nice race.
    It is a sad place that knowledge is somehow a dirty word these days..what a pity

    Go to the library, if you know how to find it, discover Harrison;s book and find that entry

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    Serena's Song's dam is running again? <tic>

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    Yeah, probably after her sex change.

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