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  1. #3201

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    [QUOTE=Happy Endings;131364]You are too hopelessly mired in this marginal industry to have a clue. Should Zenyatta win this Saturday, the landscape will change considerably.

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    You said it, not me. Horse racing is now a marginal industry. Joe the Plumber knows who Smarty Jones, Barbaro, and Big Brown is. Why? Because only horses that are vying for a TC are known to the general public. He does not know who Zenyatta is and will not know even if she wins on Saturday.

    You didn't answer my question about who Diana Taurasi is. No googling. I said she is known by 5 times more people than Zenyatta

    MG....you are right...fish in a barrel
    Last edited by Slewbopper; 11-03-2010 at 08:19 AM.
    Your don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.....RZ

  2. #3202

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandgirl45 View Post
    Here's the latest blog from Mike Smith, published Tuesday.

    Let's do it one more time

    http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/blog...-one-more-time
    interesting that he is talking about kickback, as that is a worry for me. she didn't like the kickback at oaklawn this year according to mike and there were only a few horses in front of her in that race.

  3. #3203

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjohnh View Post
    interesting that he is talking about kickback, as that is a worry for me. she didn't like the kickback at oaklawn this year according to mike and there were only a few horses in front of her in that race.
    She might not have liked it. But she still ran like it wasn't a problem...that's the important part. She's run and won twice on dirt...which means twice she's handled the kickback without a problem.

    Which brings me to this...Smith did say she didn't like the kickback at Oaklawn which is why he began to move her closer earlier than usual, leading to two of her largest margins of victory. Now add in the longer Churchill stretch.


    Just something for you handicappers to look at.

  4. #3204

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    i am thinking that she is likely to use up more energy running in a propped position than she would use just galloping along and that she is likely to need it more in this race.
    i can already tell it is going to be a lot more difficult to stop worrying about her race when i am not there watching her in the mornings as i have been the last two years!

  5. #3205

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secretariat Forever View Post
    She might not have liked it. But she still ran like it wasn't a problem...that's the important part. She's run and won twice on dirt...which means twice she's handled the kickback without a problem.

    Which brings me to this...Smith did say she didn't like the kickback at Oaklawn which is why he began to move her closer earlier than usual, leading to two of her largest margins of victory. Now add in the longer Churchill stretch.


    Just something for you handicappers to look at.
    Trevor: And down the stretch it is Swain 18 wide and Zenyatta scraping the paint on the grandstand rail......hahaha

    Seriously....she will take the Calvin route and bull her way through at some point turning for home. Just like last year, Mikey ain't going to be Mr. Timid in this race.
    Your don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.....RZ

  6. #3206

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    She is about to school in a few mintues

  7. #3207

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    Too cute, she was doing her little dance like she was getting ready to race

  8. #3208

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    she looks great!

  9. #3209

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandgirl45 View Post
    As well as (perhaps a little less live) mounts on Mine That Bird and Izshelegal.
    Hey! Stableboy likes her chances!

  10. #3210

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Endings View Post
    And with your mention of Seabiscuit as third best known you unwittingly support my comment. Why is he third best known over Kelso or others in the top 10? Because of the movie? Exactly the reason I think Zenyatta will be so well known. Because of her story.
    Which leads me to think that there will be a movie.

  11. #3211

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    A little bit of video from her tour of the track this morning:

    http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing/video.aspx

    The video that comes up in the box after the page loads is of her.
    First rule: Try always to do what's right for the horse. The people part will work out. -- Josh Pons, Merryland, 2007

  12. #3212

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    http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...e-at-churchill


    "She did fine," Shirreffs said with big smile on his face. "She seems very happy and really got over the track good."
    "She’s terrific," added Willard. "She couldn’t be training any better. She loves the dirt. I knew it two years ago, and I knew it going into Hot Springs (for the Apple Blossom at Oaklawn Park). She drives off it. It doesn’t have the trampoline effect like the synthetics. The crowd was great. They were mostly quiet, a couple yelled, but for the most part very accommodating."

  13. #3213

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    7' x 40' banner hanging in downtown Louisville -- this is the one the fans signed out at SA.

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...49.51125691909
    First rule: Try always to do what's right for the horse. The people part will work out. -- Josh Pons, Merryland, 2007

  14. #3214

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    Quote Originally Posted by second_glance View Post
    7' x 40' banner hanging in downtown Louisville -- this is the one the fans signed out at SA.

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...49.51125691909
    Cool! I signed it. Right between the 2 "O's" in "Good" ... I may not have been able to get there, but at least my ink did!
    Live life, don't just exist it!

  15. #3215

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tin Man View Post
    Cool! I signed it. Right between the 2 "O's" in "Good" ... I may not have been able to get there, but at least my ink did!
    Cool Tinny..... I am looking to bet against her. but you know what? On more than a few occasions I have bet on one horse and rooted another one home. Coastal over Bid comes to mind. Money doesn't matter when you are dealing with what should be.

    BTW....John Henry does not apply. I never ever bet against him. Only a fool would have done that.
    Your don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.....RZ

  16. #3216

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    [QUOTE=Slewbopper;131408]
    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Endings View Post
    You are too hopelessly mired in this marginal industry to have a clue. Should Zenyatta win this Saturday, the landscape will change considerably.

    QUOTE]

    You said it, not me. Horse racing is now a marginal industry. Joe the Plumber knows who Smarty Jones, Barbaro, and Big Brown is. Why? Because only horses that are vying for a TC are known to the general public. He does not know who Zenyatta is and will not know even if she wins on Saturday.

    You didn't answer my question about who Diana Taurasi is. No googling. I said she is known by 5 times more people than Zenyatta

    MG....you are right...fish in a barrel
    Joe the Plumber doesn't have a clue about Big Brown. Smarty Jones and Barbaro, maybe, but mostly due to their STORIES. Barbaro's well publicized injury, and Smarty Jones trainer dying, Smarty himself almost killing him self by bashing his head, and oh, yeah that little bit of trivia about being UNDEFEATED going into the TC series. Does he know the names of Giacomo, or Mine that Bird, or Street Sense, or even Super Saver?
    Undefeated horses draw attention, just like no-hitters in baseball, or undefeated teams. Everybody likes a winner.

    And I see you have no answer regarding Seabiscuit. I figured as much.

    Hey, I don't feel compelled to make you agree with me. I really don't care if you do. I'm happy to just sit back and let time prove me right. If she wins Saturday, just watch and remember who told you so.

    Yeah.

  17. #3217

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tin Man View Post
    Cool! I signed it. Right between the 2 "O's" in "Good" ... I may not have been able to get there, but at least my ink did!

    LOL!!

  18. #3218

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slewbopper View Post
    Cool Tinny..... I am looking to bet against her. but you know what? On more than a few occasions I have bet on one horse and rooted another one home. Coastal over Bid comes to mind. Money doesn't matter when you are dealing with what should be.

    BTW....John Henry does not apply. I never ever bet against him. Only a fool would have done that.
    I think Zen is the same. Only a fool will bet against her.

  19. #3219

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slewbopper View Post
    Cool Tinny..... I am looking to bet against her. but you know what? On more than a few occasions I have bet on one horse and rooted another one home.
    I've done it too Bopper. I've bet with and against Zenny a few times in her races.

    It's kind of an IF I'm gonna be bummed out, then at least making some money will ease the disappointment move.

    But regardless of whether I'd have made more by her loss or not, I've always WANTED her to win.

    No "reasonable" amount of money is worth her losing to me. But sometimes I put covers against her. Last year I had a side cover bet with GIio Ponti against her. I'm thinking of maybe covering with Haynesfield, QR, Lucky or Balme this time too. But I WILL single her in my trifecta, so I can load up behind her. My coveres would only be enough to pay for my trifecta cost should she somehow not win.
    Live life, don't just exist it!

  20. #3220

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    Quote Originally Posted by EquineAnne View Post
    I think Zen is the same. Only a fool will bet against her.
    Agreed ... I do covers sometimes just in case, but I NEVER leave her out of my MAIN bet.

    She's raced 19 times and never lost. Until she loses, how could one bet against her. She hasn't proven she knows what losing is.
    Live life, don't just exist it!

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