Georgia Coalition Unveils Racetrack Design

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The Georgia Horse Racing Coalition, a group of business and civic leaders dedicated to bringing horse racing to Georgia, unveiled plans Jan. 16 for a mixed-use racetrack development designed by architectural design firm Populous.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ack-design
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I really, really want to live in a state with horse racing. Come on Georgia. We have the lotto, fireworks and beer on Sunday. How about some ponies?
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:53 pm

Georgia, as well as the Carolinas, have pretty thriving horse communities. It always surprised me that there wasn't at least one track in Georgia, considering it could be supported by a city like Atlanta. This sounds like a potential win/win, if it served as a multi-purpose facility during dark days and off-season.
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:38 pm

That design concept is really quite amazing. I really hope it works and gets the support it needs.
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:21 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:That design concept is really quite amazing. I really hope it works and gets the support it needs.

it's very cool.
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Insane Crazy wrote:Georgia, as well as the Carolinas, have pretty thriving horse communities. It always surprised me that there wasn't at least one track in Georgia, considering it could be supported by a city like Atlanta. This sounds like a potential win/win, if it served as a multi-purpose facility during dark days and off-season.
I don't think that you can legally bet in those states? Right? So in that sense I guess it makes sense. I wish all those laws would change. I imagine in the next 5 years they will.

The horse community there really is big. How does this work with something like GP, GPW and TB being close enough in the mix?

I don't really know if Atlanta would support it, but can't say I live there to know. They just have a lot of other sports going on there already.
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I live here in metro Atlanta and I think people would enjoy a boutique-type meet (I've heard some of the bring racing to GA folks mention Saratoga of the South). That would be different enough than Tampa/Gulfstream (which honestly are a further drive than Churchill or Keeneland). I can't imagine how well a longer-running meet would last. I wonder when they would aim to hold any meet of any length. The heat during the summer is much too oppressive to think of horses competing and people wanting to attend. I'd guess a late fall meet or early spring, but would they dare compete with a Saratoga or Keeneland? Maybe directly after but then what about BC schedule? What sort of horses would we draw? A lot of questions around that piece of the puzzle.

We do get the steeplechase circuit once in the spring and it's a huge hit. It's like a big day at Keeneland but no betting. We have no wagering allowed here in the state currently. Can't even legally open an account with TVG or Twinspires or whatnot. If I wanted an account, I'd have to use an out of state address. Silliest thing ever seeing as we have the lottery but "betting on horses" is worse somehow?
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I agree with the betting thing. The beer on Sunday thing still never made any sense to me (or mostly recently in KY when I had to wait to put in a brunch drink until 10am). I like vacationing in the South a lot and my jaded NY butt could barely come to grips with it.

For an strip of the country that doesn't have a huge exposure to racing anymore it would be nice to see it expand.
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bare it all wrote:We do get the steeplechase circuit once in the spring and it's a huge hit. It's like a big day at Keeneland but no betting. We have no wagering allowed here in the state currently. Can't even legally open an account with TVG or Twinspires or whatnot. If I wanted an account, I'd have to use an out of state address. Silliest thing ever seeing as we have the lottery but "betting on horses" is worse somehow?
Same here with all of that in NC. We'll never see a track--there's no initiative for anything like that. But I'd totally support one in GA. We just need to convince everyone that we won't all go to hell for placing a bet on the ponies.
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Somnambulist wrote:
Insane Crazy wrote:Georgia, as well as the Carolinas, have pretty thriving horse communities. It always surprised me that there wasn't at least one track in Georgia, considering it could be supported by a city like Atlanta. This sounds like a potential win/win, if it served as a multi-purpose facility during dark days and off-season.
I don't think that you can legally bet in those states? Right? So in that sense I guess it makes sense. I wish all those laws would change. I imagine in the next 5 years they will.

The horse community there really is big. How does this work with something like GP, GPW and TB being close enough in the mix?

I don't really know if Atlanta would support it, but can't say I live there to know. They just have a lot of other sports going on there already.
Oh, I'd forgotten about the betting thing. Duh. We can't bet here in MO, either. But Georgia has the people and regional spread to support it better than we ever could.

Love the idea of a boutique meet. Shortly after Keeneland, perhaps. Is the heat horrible in May or June? Would March overlap too heavily with the bigger circuits?
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Somnambulist wrote:I agree with the betting thing. The beer on Sunday thing still never made any sense to me (or mostly recently in KY when I had to wait to put in a brunch drink until 10am). I like vacationing in the South a lot and my jaded NY butt could barely come to grips with it.

For an strip of the country that doesn't have a huge exposure to racing anymore it would be nice to see it expand.
They FINALLY legalized alcohol on Sunday's in most counties in GA 2 or 3 years ago!!! From what I can tell, no additional folks have been cast into fire and brimstone and the hand of God hasn't crushed the state. We also can now buy fireworks - including the good ones and not just sparklers and black cats!! I have hopes for at least wagering to come within the decade... And really, a track doesn't feel like some crazy pipe dream anymore. The Reeves have some powerful friends in the right places.
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Somnambulist wrote: I imagine in the next 5 years they will.
They were saying the same thing 5 years ago. CDI took the state of Texas to court a year or two ago to get online wagering legalized and failed. It's amazing, but I'm not sure those laws are going to be easy to overturn. Georgia is the only state where I've even seen a decent, centralized push.
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dustino140 wrote:
Somnambulist wrote: I imagine in the next 5 years they will.
They were saying the same thing 5 years ago. CDI took the state of Texas to court a year or two ago to get online wagering legalized and failed. It's amazing, but I'm not sure those laws are going to be easy to overturn. Georgia is the only state where I've even seen a decent, centralized push.
Idk, I think this BS with Draft Kings and Fan Duel will spur convo. The NFL was getting a cut on that. They own a day of the week. Lots of big names did. I think all sports being legalized to bet on will be here before long.
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Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:52 am

Keeping my fingers crossed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/blog ... ml?ana=fbk
Legislation to legalize pari-mutuel betting on horse racing in Georgia cleared its first hurdle in the General Assembly Wednesday.

The state Senate’s Regulated Industries and Utilities Committee approved a constitutional amendment allowing Georgians to vote on horse racing this fall, the first step toward sending the proposal to the full Senate. Committee members also gave a “do pass” recommendation to a separate bill spelling out details of how horse racing would work in Georgia.
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Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:14 pm

This one has a TON of concept art for the facilities:

http://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2016 ... vision.php

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Resurrecting this thread because Dean Reeves and the Georgia Horse Racing Coalition haven't given up.

New Georgia Racing Bill Strips Out Gaming References
The latest bill in a decades-long string of legislative efforts to legalize pari-mutuel horse wagering in Georgia was filed on Wednesday.

In a change of tactics from similar bills that failed in recent years, this year’s version does not tie the sport to any racino/casino gaming and focuses strictly on creating a mixed-use Thoroughbred venue that would host boutique seasonal meets and other non-racing events.

According to the Atlanta Business Chronicle, which first broke the story, the Rural Georgia Jobs and Growth Act filed by Republican Senator Brandon Beach pitches horse racing as “an economic development boon for struggling rural communities, which could see the creation of a new industry surrounding the raising of racehorses.”
More: http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/ne ... eferences/

Horse racing bill introduced in General Assembly
https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/new ... embly.html
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