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Taking Shergar

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:32 pm
by Starine
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... hergar-838

What a handsome and talented horse he was.

I always thought the story of him becoming unmanageable and that necessitating his execution seemed strange because I have only heard remarkable things about his uncommonly gentle temperament from Richard Stone Reeves among others.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:41 pm
by sweettalk
i heard a theory that he wasn't killed, just sold off somewhere that they wouldn't be looking for him. a nice theory as it implies he didn't die (or wasn't machine gunned to death at least), but what the theory didn't cover was what he'd be doing after being sold/bought. i don't even remember where i saw it.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:08 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
I just know that even after all these years I still hate the people who did this, unknown though they might be. I hope there really is an afterlife where there really is justice, because far too often there is no justice in this world.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:33 pm
by barbaro111
Ridan_Remembered wrote:I just know that even after all these years I still hate the people who did this, unknown though they might be. I hope there really is an afterlife where there really is justice, because far too often there is no justice in this world.

I heard about this horrible story but never knew the details. I am unable to read the Bloodhorse article because I it is too horrific and I started almost sobbing---he was so beautiful and talented---I hope those who perpitrated this monstrous act had a miserable horrible life and suffered an agonising death

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:17 pm
by Somnambulist
barbaro111 wrote:
Ridan_Remembered wrote:I just know that even after all these years I still hate the people who did this, unknown though they might be. I hope there really is an afterlife where there really is justice, because far too often there is no justice in this world.

I heard about this horrible story but never knew the details. I am unable to read the Bloodhorse article because I it is too horrific and I started almost sobbing---he was so beautiful and talented---I hope those who perpitrated this monstrous act had a miserable horrible life and suffered an agonising death
This is terrible. Why would you ever wish that on someone?

Sanity is becoming..

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:35 am
by BaroqueAgain1
She's not alone...anyone who did what most experts believe was done to this beautiful stallion deserves more curses than I feel like typing.
I hate humans...just in case you were wondering. :evil:

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:56 am
by Ridan_Remembered
Somnambulist wrote:
barbaro111 wrote:
Ridan_Remembered wrote:I just know that even after all these years I still hate the people who did this, unknown though they might be. I hope there really is an afterlife where there really is justice, because far too often there is no justice in this world.

I heard about this horrible story but never knew the details. I am unable to read the Bloodhorse article because I it is too horrific and I started almost sobbing---he was so beautiful and talented---I hope those who perpitrated this monstrous act had a miserable horrible life and suffered an agonising death
This is terrible. Why would you ever wish that on someone?

Sanity is becoming..
Somnambulist, you are a most frustrating person. Always the scolding contrarian, which is tolerable for ordinary discussions, but this is no ordinary discussion. What the people who stole Shergar did to him is indeed monstrous and deserving of severe punishment. Since it isn't going to happen in this life, all we are left with is hoping it happens in the next, if there is a next life. There is absolutely NOTHING insane about barbaro111's point of view in this regard. In fact, it is far more natural, civilizing and honest than the simpering politically correct nonsense that is so pervasive in our society these days.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:36 pm
by Starine
Hoping some of our European posters will chime in...

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:41 pm
by luvthesales
Somnambulist wrote:
This is terrible. Why would you ever wish that on someone?

Sanity is becoming..
For what it's worth, I'm with you. I'm all for justice, in this life or the next. But I find such wishes unbecoming, even if I understand the sentiment.

I'm probably just a softie, though.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:16 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
luvthesales wrote:
Somnambulist wrote:
This is terrible. Why would you ever wish that on someone?

Sanity is becoming..
For what it's worth, I'm with you. I'm all for justice, in this life or the next. But I find such wishes unbecoming, even if I understand the sentiment.

I'm probably just a softie, though.
So you're a softie for people who steal innocent animals and cruelly slaughter them to make some weird political point and to try to extort money from the animal's owners?

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:59 pm
by Curtis
Ridan_Remembered wrote:
luvthesales wrote:
Somnambulist wrote:
This is terrible. Why would you ever wish that on someone?

Sanity is becoming..
For what it's worth, I'm with you. I'm all for justice, in this life or the next. But I find such wishes unbecoming, even if I understand the sentiment.

I'm probably just a softie, though.
So you're a softie for people who steal innocent animals and cruelly slaughter them to make some weird political point and to try to extort money from the animal's owners?
I think your complicating and misinterpreting the point. What they're saying, I believe, is that two wrongs don't make a right.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:09 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
Curtis wrote:[I think your complicating and misinterpreting the point. What they're saying, I believe, is that two wrongs don't make a right.
Horse puckey!!!! What "two wrongs" are you referring to, Curtis? Hmmmm? Are you seriously equating what barbaro111 wrote above with what the scum who stole Shergar did? Or are you going to backpedal and say I'm "complicating and misinterpreting" your point as well?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wishing that at least some pain be visited upon those who commit evil acts. Isn't that what the concept of Hell is all about? All too often (as in the Shergar case) justice is not found in this life, so human beings have long hoped it might be found in an afterlife. "For it is written, vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." Do you think the vengeance in that Bible verse refers to a slap on the wrist?

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:11 pm
by dustino140
It's amazing how people get so worked up about things they read online.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:17 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
dustino140 wrote:It's amazing how people get so worked up about things they read online.
Dustino, in this particular instance, it isn't about something read online. It's about matters as old as humankind, and that have stirred human passions ever since human beings began to understand the concepts of right and wrong.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:35 pm
by dustino140
Ridan_Remembered wrote:
dustino140 wrote:It's amazing how people get so worked up about things they read online.
Dustino, in this particular instance, it isn't about something read online. It's about matters as old as humankind, and that have stirred human passions ever since human beings began to understand the concepts of right and wrong.
Sure it is.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:06 am
by Starine
Dang. I was kind of hoping we could talk more about Shergar and his disappearance, and less about matters as old as humankind.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:46 am
by Kurenai
I'm from Europe and can't add much to the discussion. I, too, believe that he was gunned down. Until his remains are found nobody will ever know. I still have hope that some day they will find them. But the chances are slim of that happening.

I never got why they had to kill him (unless he maybe was so freaked out he broke a leg in an accident, which is what I believe). They could have just turned him lose, at least he would have had a chance, once they realized they weren't getting any money. There was no point to kill him at all. It's not like they said "you didn't pay us now see what happens" which is what terrorists usually do.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:22 am
by Ridan_Remembered
Starine wrote:Dang. I was kind of hoping we could talk more about Shergar and his disappearance, and less about matters as old as humankind.
We have been talking about Shergar. Only some people are too busy hand-wringing over tough talk about Shergar's killers to realize it.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:27 am
by dustino140
This keeps getting better and better.

Re: Taking Shergar

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:51 pm
by Admin
I don't see it as horrible to have ill wishes towards people who abused an animal. I'm still wondering how some people can pull for a football player who abused dogs.