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stark
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Tue May 07, 2019 1:57 pm

Treve wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 1:34 pm
Methinks the KY Derby bumper cars is a unique phenom...
Thanks
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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ThreeMustangs
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Tue May 07, 2019 7:32 pm

stark wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:56 pm
Just curious, comparing our Derby with big races around the world. Full fields like the Arc or Melbourne, wherever, what happens when there's bumping at a critical point in the race? Are there unwritten let 'em run rules that everybody understands? Any famous DQ's?
Nureyev was disqualified in the 1980 2,000 Guineas. There have been more recent disqualifications in the 1,000 Guineas.
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Mylute
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Tue May 07, 2019 7:33 pm

Curious: I know there are some races in Europe, or the UK specifically, that have fields of 20+. How do those usually work out?
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Tue May 07, 2019 7:45 pm

Can't remember the year and the other horse involved but quite recently, Simple Verse won the St. Leger (3rd leg of the English Triple Crown) but there was some bumping around in the final furlong. After a long inquiry she was disqualified but it was clear to everyone watching that she shouldn't have been. The owners appealed and Simple Verse ended up being reinstated as the winner.

Will say though, majority of the British racing folks on Twitter were very much against Maximum Security's DQ. I don't know the rules in Britain well enough but it seems that under our rules Maximum Security would not be disqualified.
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Tue May 07, 2019 7:47 pm

carole wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:45 pm
Can't remember the year and the other horse involved but quite recently, Simple Verse won the St. Leger (3rd leg of the English Triple Crown) but there was some bumping around in the final furlong. After a long inquiry she was disqualified but it was clear to everyone watching that she shouldn't have been. The owners appealed and Simple Verse ended up being reinstated as the winner.

Will say though, majority of the British racing folks on Twitter were very much against Maximum Security's DQ. I don't know the rules in Britain well enough but it seems that under our rules Maximum Security would not be disqualified.
Here it is, 2015. The other horse involved was Bondi Beach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_39rwZr_MZs

Video explaining the appeal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8z1IsV_Hsw
BaroqueAgain1
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Tue May 07, 2019 8:07 pm

I know that Ascot regularly has 32-horse fields on their straight mile course, but that stretch is wide enough for 32 horses to run side-by-side all the way to the finish line. The longer races that start on the 'round' course have lots of elbow room, and a fair bit of distance before the first turn.
The generous width of race courses in Australia, Europe and Japan tend to prevent the sort of Demolition-Derby crowding that we are seeing every year at Churchill. :(
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ThreeMustangs
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Sun May 12, 2019 10:58 am

Godolphin takes both French Guineas with Persian King (2,000) and the unbeaten Castle Lady (1,000).
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Starine
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Sun May 12, 2019 8:22 pm

That Persian King sure is a looker. It will be interesting to see if he makes his next start again at a mile or steps up in distance.
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