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lurkey mclurker
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Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:24 pm

It literally is the race of favorites & champions... I haven't dreamed of it but my stomach is already in knots. It's going to be a tremendous race; may they all come home safely.

(It's not a sleep dream, but may daydream results would be Almond Eye ahead of them all, and then a blanket finish of Lys Gracieux, Aerolithe & Oju Chosan that would need a lengthy photo inspection to sort out. :lol: ) *fingers x*
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:05 am

Parading for the Arima Kinen!!

Stiffelio looks good but nobody seems to think he has much of a chance. Rey de Oro is calm. Almond Eye looks fabulous, also calm. Lys Gracieux looks a little light to me. Kiseki is a bit on his toes IMO. Saturnalia & Al Ain have lovely swinging walks, wonder what form they will have... Suave Richard & Cheval Grand representing the redheads :lol: Aerolithe looks good too but they don't think she can get the distance.

I like way too many horses in this field but Almond Eye for sure, Lys Gracieux if she has enough left... the rest I dunno, I'll see how they warm up.

ETA: Cheval Grand looks really good too. Still think it's Almond Eye's race to lose but the butterflies have colonized my stomach. :? Plus I think my stream is behind and I'm trying not to spoil myself on twitter, so. *fingers x*
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:37 am

Almond Eye looked very tired at the end. Apparently 2500m is too long for her :cry:

Another great mare won, congrats to Lys Gracieux!
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I am SO FLIPPING MAD right now... at 10:30pm PST on the dot Dubai Racing CUT OUT OF THE LIVE COVERAGE just as they were going to post. I missed EVERYTHING.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:45 am

Palace Malice wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:37 am
Almond Eye looked very tired at the end. Apparently 2500m is too long for her :cry:

Another great mare won, congrats to Lys Gracieux!
Found a replay... what a magnificent run by Lys Gracieux. Sired by an Arima Kinen winner, now one herself. And the global campaign she had, too... what a mare. Wow.

https://twitter.com/TVG/status/1208636628148740096
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Palace Malice
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:46 am

lurkey mclurker wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:40 am
I am SO FLIPPING MAD right now... at 10:30pm PST on the dot Dubai Racing CUT OUT OF THE LIVE COVERAGE just as they were going to post. I missed EVERYTHING.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
I know. Same thing happened for me :evil:

I rushed to Youtube to watch a Japanese stream but missed it by a few seconds. Saw that Lys Gracieux was the winner and watched the replay. :cry:

Sad that I missed it live. Not trusting the Dubai stream anymore...
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:48 am

What a powerful performance by Lys Gracieux.
She will unanimously be voted the Japan's horse of the year 2019!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:50 am

lurkey mclurker wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:45 am
Palace Malice wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:37 am
Almond Eye looked very tired at the end. Apparently 2500m is too long for her :cry:

Another great mare won, congrats to Lys Gracieux!
Found a replay... what a magnificent run by Lys Gracieux. Sired by an Arima Kinen winner, now one herself. And the global campaign she had, too... what a mare. Wow.

https://twitter.com/TVG/status/1208636628148740096
That was indeed a great run. I still think Almond Eye is the best, just not over 2500m :D

I think her best distances are 1600m-2000m with a maximum of 2400m.
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:00 am

Oh I still love Almond Eye too... they never intended her for the Arima Kinen, really. Such a shame the fever kept her from the Hong Kong Cup. :cry:

tachyon can confirm but I'm seeing it said that Lys Gracieux is the first filly to accomplish the double of the Takarazuka Kinen & Arima Kinen - not to mention the Cox Plate too! She deserves every accolade. :mrgreen:
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-- replay (Japanese)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgJMcZXrRXA
1st 6 Lys Gracieux(JPN) [Heart's Cry(JPN) x Liliside(FR) by American Post(GB)] M5 55 02:30.5
2nd 10 Saturnalia(JPN [Lord Kanaloa(JPN) x Cesario(JPN) by Special Week(JPN)] C3 55 02:31.3 5
3rd 7 World Premiere(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Mandela(GER) by Acatenango(GER)] C3 55 02:31.4 NK
4th 5 Fierement(JPN) C4 57 02:31.6 1 1/2
5th 11 Kiseki(JPN) H5 57 02:31.6 NK
6th 16 Cheval Grand(JPN) H7 57 02:31.9 1 3/4
7th 8 Rey de Oro(JPN) H5 57 02:32.1 1 1/4
8th 14 Velox(JPN) C3 55 02:32.3 1
9th 9 Almond Eye(JPN) F4 55 02:32.3 NS
10th 3 Etario(JPN) C4 57 02:32.4 NK
11th 13 Al Ain(JPN) H5 57 02:32.8 2 1/2
12th 2 Suave Richard(JPN) H5 57 02:33.6 5
13th 4 Stiffelio(JPN) H5 57 02:34.0 2 1/2
14th 15 Aerolithe(JPN) M5 55 02:35.0 6
15th 1 Scarlet Color(JPN) F4 55 02:35.3 1 3/4
16th 12 Crocosmia(JPN) M6 55 02:35.3 NK
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:35 am

Yes!
Lys Gracieux has become the first female runner to win both Takarazuka Kinen and Arima Kinen, two grand prix races with fans votings in Japan.
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:40 pm

Lys Gracieux was sublime.
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:32 pm

(The English replay link above ^^ links to the 2018 race, here is the 2019 link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP2jk_DK4qo ) 8-)

tachyon have they announced who they will send Lys Gracieux to? And Aerolithe?
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lurkey mclurker wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:32 pm
(The English replay link above ^^ links to the 2018 race, here is the 2019 link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP2jk_DK4qo ) 8-)

tachyon have they announced who they will send Lys Gracieux to? And Aerolithe?
Carrot Farm said Lys Gracieux might visit one of King Kamehameha stallions. Maybe Lord Kanaloa?
No word yet for Aerolithe.

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Yutaka Take was bitten on the arm by a rival horse just after the start of the G3 Sports Nippon Sho Kyoto Kimpai, aboard Catedral (Heart's Cry) on January 5. :shock: It looks IMO like it was the twelve horse, Time Trip, who ended up 13th of 18.

https://twitter.com/LongBallToNoOne/sta ... 7000257536 - vid clip

Catedral finished next to last but Take said the incident at the start didn't make much of a difference.

http://www.yutaka-take.com/diary_column/
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Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:30 pm

Okay so this is mind-boggling for me (in a good way)... I mean I knew theoretically that Japanese & European tracks sometimes had downhill parts & slopey parts, but holy cow.

The incline to the finish at this model of Nakayama Racecourse seems craaaazy! Amazing. :shock:

via https://twitter.com/katyoumandy/status/ ... 8204803072
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No wonder Northern Farm built its own inclined/uphill training track!
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Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:32 pm

I don't see how that is accurate. Something that steep should be visualized easily, like the stretch at Epsom, and this looks steeper than that.

https://www.city.funabashi.lg.jp/funaba ... 42854.html there is a picture of the stretch of Nayakama that does not appear anywhere close to that steep.
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Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:01 pm

Well the tweet comments, when translated, refer to slopes of anywhere from 5m to 200m (for a different track) - but there is a PDF where you can see the undulations for the main tracks.

http://japanracing.jp/en/jpn-racing/gui ... _en_05.pdf

Wikipedia does mention that the Nakayama jump course includes steep embankments, so maybe that part of the model is what we're seeing?
Nakayama Race Course has two grass courses, a dirt course, and a jump course.
[ ... ]
The jump course is unique because several different configurations can be used. In all races, horses must drop and climb over steep embankments at the rear of the course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakayama_Racecourse

(Or maybe I'm interpreting the *rise* wrong and the 200m refers to length of the stretch, but it's still going uphill as shown in the diagram...?)

ETA yeah I'm an idiot, I was looking at the course length (horizontal axis) as elevation differences (vertical axis) for some reason. Report cards have fried my brain... looks like Nakayama elevation varies from -2m to +3m. :roll: :::epic facepalm time:::
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Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:42 am

In case you wanted to cry today, here's Lys Gracieux's groom, Hiroyuki Kitaguchi, thanking her at her retirement ceremony. She clearly means the world to him:
https://twitter.com/LongBallToNoOne/sta ... 9786784769

And here's a clip of her retirement ceremony:
https://twitter.com/LongBallToNoOne/sta ... 0996681729
Japanese racing is truly something special, heaven for racing fans!
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