What if we had a National Racing Czar?

stark
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:54 am

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I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:50 pm

It is post time and the horses are a quarter miles from the gate, in Florida make that a half mile. The serious betting has just begun, the 4-1 odds you thought you were getting just dropped to even money. Maybe 5 minutes after post time they load. Horses go off and half way through the race you see that your even money is now 3-5. A national racing car would stop this quickly by shutting off the tote at post time, like they did after the BC pick 6 scandal......and yet......
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:36 am

Rick1323 wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:50 pm
It is post time and the horses are a quarter miles from the gate, in Florida make that a half mile. The serious betting has just begun, the 4-1 odds you thought you were getting just dropped to even money. Maybe 5 minutes after post time they load. Horses go off and half way through the race you see that your even money is now 3-5. A national racing car would stop this quickly by shutting off the tote at post time, like they did after the BC pick 6 scandal......and yet......
Heck, shut the tote with 1 mtp... they could put a bright yellow clicker with 5 mtp and bettors would get used to it pretty fast, but... raw capitalism is a reality. I don't think the racing czar alone could remedy that.
If they could I might have actually gotten that 9/1 on Firenze Fire in the Dwyer.
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:25 pm

peeptoad wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:36 am
Rick1323 wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:50 pm
It is post time and the horses are a quarter miles from the gate, in Florida make that a half mile. The serious betting has just begun, the 4-1 odds you thought you were getting just dropped to even money. Maybe 5 minutes after post time they load. Horses go off and half way through the race you see that your even money is now 3-5. A national racing car would stop this quickly by shutting off the tote at post time, like they did after the BC pick 6 scandal......and yet......
Heck, shut the tote with 1 mtp... they could put a bright yellow clicker with 5 mtp and bettors would get used to it pretty fast, but... raw capitalism is a reality. I don't think the racing czar alone could remedy that.
If they could I might have actually gotten that 9/1 on Firenze Fire in the Dwyer.
My hope is that a racing car might put us first, but you are probably right. This would be yet another way to protect the business and leave gamblers with the usual crappy treatment.....
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:28 pm

Rick1323 wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:50 pm
It is post time and the horses are a quarter miles from the gate, in Florida make that a half mile. The serious betting has just begun, the 4-1 odds you thought you were getting just dropped to even money. Maybe 5 minutes after post time they load. Horses go off and half way through the race you see that your even money is now 3-5. A national racing car would stop this quickly by shutting off the tote at post time, like they did after the BC pick 6 scandal......and yet......
Not sure "post time" is the right answer, but "when the first horse loads into the gate" is a logical one that worked for a while. I remember watching everybody in line at the Vegas books complain, but once they got the hang of it they pretty much shut up and played along.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:35 pm

stark wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:28 pm
Rick1323 wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:50 pm
It is post time and the horses are a quarter miles from the gate, in Florida make that a half mile. The serious betting has just begun, the 4-1 odds you thought you were getting just dropped to even money. Maybe 5 minutes after post time they load. Horses go off and half way through the race you see that your even money is now 3-5. A national racing car would stop this quickly by shutting off the tote at post time, like they did after the BC pick 6 scandal......and yet......
Not sure "post time" is the right answer, but "when the first horse loads into the gate" is a logical one that worked for a while. I remember watching everybody in line at the Vegas books complain, but once they got the hang of it they pretty much shut up and played along.
Post time was the result of the BC pick 6 scandal. We all got used to it quickly, but it didn't last long. It has gotten to the point of being a joke today, especially at the Florida tracks. I would be happy with the first horse to load. I'm pretty sure we are getting screwed 6 ways to Sunday right now......
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Do you think that if we actually had a National Czar they would allow Belinda to make these sweeping changes on the fly?

Or

Do you think Belinda is the de facto Czarina and everybody will fall in line behind her?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:33 am

stark wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:04 pm
Do you think that if we actually had a National Czar they would allow Belinda to make these sweeping changes on the fly?

Or

Do you think Belinda is the de facto Czarina and everybody will fall in line behind her?
No, on both questions. Aside fro all other considerations, a National Czar hopefully would be smart enough to realize that this doesn't fix the problem with the track, but just generically reduces breakdowns overall. SA would still have a higher fatality race than other tracks.
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:16 pm

I'm even more convinced that Belinda wants to be "Ms.Czarina 2020"
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sun May 05, 2019 7:57 pm

While a National Racing Czar continues to be a mirage everybody is hopeful for, how about just taking some baby steps?

How about a replay system with challenges like MLB and NFL?

Jockeys and trainers could object to the outcome of a local stewards disqualification in real time and throw a red flag on the track indicating the headsets need to be put on for a call to NY for official review. The general sporting public is certainly aware of how that system works by now.

There would have to be some cost involved......maybe $1,000 or maybe 2 per month limit, something to control the volume of claims.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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On Behalf of CHRI: Fatalities, Drugs, and Integrity: Americans’ Top Three Concerns for Horse Racing
According to a new, national and Kentucky-based poll commissioned by The Jockey Club, horse fatalities are the single most important factor facing the horse racing industry with nearly seven in 10 likely voters (69 percent) saying that it is a “very important” issue. The misuse of drugs was almost equally significant with 65 percent saying it was “very important.” Integrity and corruption also scored highly at 63 percent.

“This survey is further proof that the horse racing industry has reached a tipping point,” said Jim Gagliano, The Jockey Club president and COO. “The health of horses is of concern to both horse racing fans and the general public, and it’s time we make some real changes.”

Interestingly, these issues matter to people almost evenly across party lines and among Americans of all races and ethnicities. However, nationally, women are especially likely to view equine fatalities (77 percent), drugs (76 percent), and integrity (69 percent) as “very important” issues for the industry to address.

The poll also looked at the Horseracing Integrity Act (HIA) of 2019, which would establish a private, independent horse racing anti-doping authority involving the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA); require full transparency into the medical treatment, injuries, and health of all racehorses; and create one, universal system of medication regulation.

An astounding 91 percent of respondents said they would view horse racing “much more” or “somewhat more” favorably if the industry adopted the national regulations and strict anti-doping rules embodied in the HIA.

Other key findings in the poll include:

Kentucky

- Kentucky voters are three times as likely to say horse injuries have become more common (47 percent) than less common (15 percent) in recent years, which is no surprise given that U.S. horse racing lags far behind international standards to combat doping, creating horse injury rates that are 2.5 to 5 times greater than the rest of the world.

- 90 percent of Kentucky likely voters said they would be “much more” or “somewhat more” favorable to horse racing if Congress were to pass the HIA.

- 78 percent of Kentucky likely voters said that it is “very important” or “somewhat important” to reform the horse racing industry in order to improve the image of the sport.

- 95 percent of Kentucky likely voters said they would be “much more” or “somewhat more” favorable to horse racing if the U.S. adopted international standards, which are proved to reduce equine fatalities and injuries.

Nationwide

- 95 percent of likely voters said they would be “much more” or “somewhat more” favorable to horse racing if an independent group, such as USADA (which regulates Olympic athletes), created and enforced medication rules at least as stringent as for other professional sports.

- 93 percent of likely voters said they would be “much more” or “somewhat more” favorable to horse racing if all Thoroughbred racehorses were subject to random drug testing at any time prior to or after a race to test for prohibited substances.

- 93 percent of likely voters said they would be “much more” or “somewhat more” favorable to horse racing if the U.S. adopted international standards, which are proved to reduce equine fatalities and injuries.

- 94 percent of likely voters said they would be “much more” or “somewhat more” favorable to horse racing if there were national medication rules and penalties. Currently, 38 separate state jurisdictions regulate the horse racing industry.
More: http://jockeyclub.com/Default.asp?secti ... story=1120

Fatalities Among Racing’s Biggest Issues According to The Jockey Club Poll Respondents
Sixty-nine percent of respondents to a national and Kentucky-based poll commissioned by The Jockey Club said that horse fatalities are a “very important” issue facing the horse racing industry, according to a press release Friday sent by the Coalition for Horse Racing Integrity. The “misuse of drugs” was considered “very important” by 65% of respondents, while “integrity and corruption” scored highly at 63%.

“This survey is further proof that the horse racing industry has reached a tipping point,” said Jim Gagliano, The Jockey Club president and COO. “The health of horses is of concern to both horse racing fans and the general public, and it’s time we make some real changes.”

The poll also measured responses towards the Horseracing Integrity Act of 2019, with 91% of respondents saying they would view horse racing “much more” or “somewhat more” favorably if the national oversight and strict anti-doping rules–like those embodied in the HIA–were adopted.
More: http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/fa ... club-poll/

Full Report: http://jockeyclub.com/pdfs/horse_racing_poll.pdf
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