Stronach v. Stronach

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When you are that rich, it doesn't mean you are sane. It's excess money syndrome. Everyone is so into kissing a rear end that even insanity is ok.
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From the opinion desk of John Cherwa, LA Times newsletter.....

The Globe and Mail in Canada reported the latest on the Stronach famiy feud. It seems as Selena Stronach, 18, has filed suit against Auntie Belinda so that Selena can continue her lifestyle and avoid those nettlsesome first-world problems.

According to Globe and Mail, Selena, and her mother Kathleen, get “$15,000 (Canadian) a month in direct transfers from the family’s private holding company, TSG, plus unrestricted use of credit cards, and private jet flights for monthly vacations at five- and six-star hotels.” And she wants to keep those perks of being a Stronach.

Selena owns a ranch where she raises show cattle for county fairs. Court documents say “the operation is expensive to run.” Well, yeah.

Now, Kathleen is getting a divorce from Andrew Stronach, who is Frank’s son and by extension Belinda’s brother. Andrew, just like his dad, has filed suit against Belinda for “serious misconduct” running the TSG company. Got it?

Now, I’ve pondered how we, as caring Americans, should handle this to make sure Selena can continue to raise those cattle and live the lifestyle she is enttled to. A GoFundMe page is kind of passe. Or they could put out barrels or cups where people could drop in their change or dollars. Maybe even have some slots under the teller windows like they do at McDonalds.

So, and this will take some cooperation from the CHRB and TOC, how about we change the option on winning tickets on self-serve machines and rather than making a contribution to race horse aftercare, we could have the option to donate to Selena’s current care. I mean the cost of jet fuel is on the rise.

Anyway, just a thought.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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I know where they could park that second statue.
Just stick it on top of the mountain behind Santa Anita. Fine till the big one hits. 🤗
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stark wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:23 pm
From the opinion desk of John Cherwa, LA Times newsletter.....

The Globe and Mail in Canada reported the latest on the Stronach famiy feud. It seems as Selena Stronach, 18, has filed suit against Auntie Belinda so that Selena can continue her lifestyle and avoid those nettlsesome first-world problems.

According to Globe and Mail, Selena, and her mother Kathleen, get “$15,000 (Canadian) a month in direct transfers from the family’s private holding company, TSG, plus unrestricted use of credit cards, and private jet flights for monthly vacations at five- and six-star hotels.” And she wants to keep those perks of being a Stronach.

Selena owns a ranch where she raises show cattle for county fairs. Court documents say “the operation is expensive to run.” Well, yeah.

Now, Kathleen is getting a divorce from Andrew Stronach, who is Frank’s son and by extension Belinda’s brother. Andrew, just like his dad, has filed suit against Belinda for “serious misconduct” running the TSG company. Got it?

Now, I’ve pondered how we, as caring Americans, should handle this to make sure Selena can continue to raise those cattle and live the lifestyle she is enttled to. A GoFundMe page is kind of passe. Or they could put out barrels or cups where people could drop in their change or dollars. Maybe even have some slots under the teller windows like they do at McDonalds.

So, and this will take some cooperation from the CHRB and TOC, how about we change the option on winning tickets on self-serve machines and rather than making a contribution to race horse aftercare, we could have the option to donate to Selena’s current care. I mean the cost of jet fuel is on the rise.

Anyway, just a thought.
I believe this is the first time I've ever heard of six-star hotels. I thought five was the max. Obviously I need to learn more.
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Frank Stronach Questions TSG Management
As Frank Stronach stood on the grass course May 18 at Pimlico Race Course while horses were being saddled for the Preakness Stakes (G1), the feeling was considerably different for him than in past years.

Since 2002, when he first purchased a share of Pimlico and Laurel Park from the De Francis family, he could walk the grounds at the Preakness as an owner of the facility, knowing he had a major say in every detail of the racetrack's operation.

Yet at the 144th Preakness, 2 1/2 years after his daughter, Belinda, was introduced as new chairman of The Stronach Group and seven months after Frank Stronach filed a lawsuit seeking to regain control of The Stronach Group, the TSG founder was as much of a guest on the Pimlico grounds as anyone else.

"I've been shut out of the process," said the 86-year-old Stronach, who filed a CA$520 million ($386 million) lawsuit Oct. 1 to regain authority of the company he built.

While Belinda Stronach has control of the company's racetracks pending the results of her father's lawsuit and the countersuit she filed Jan. 21, Frank Stronach stands on the outside looking in. He remains committed to being involved in the horse racing industry and is as determined as ever to enacting measures he believes will benefit the sport.

He also places blame for the catastrophic winter at TSG's Santa Anita Park, which includes 26 fatalities from Dec. 26 to the present day and a stoppage of racing for more than three weeks, on key management at the company.

"My concern is what's the future of horse racing," he said Preakness Day. "What we have done means we could be ruled off, and I don't want to see that."

Looking back at this winter's ugly events at Santa Anita, Frank Stronach said they were the result of "gross neglect by a small number of people at The Stronach Group.

"Belinda hasn't been in it enough to understand. So, there are other people who are grossly negligent," he said. "There's enough evidence and a paper trail. They did not implement the medication protocol program. They did not implement plans I had to improve the racetrack."

In response, The Stronach Group issued a statement disputing Frank Stronach's claims, pointing out the company's work with stakeholders to improve the sport and that he has no official role with the company.
More: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... management
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Tue May 28, 2019 8:21 pm

We're talking Stronach here. If there are no 6 star hotels, don't worry, he can build one. He may have another place to dump his extra statue! And hey! Maybe he get one of a show bull, to keep his future ex daughter in law from feeling neglected!
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I cannot stop cackling.

New Sparks Fly In Stronach Suit As Frank Throws Shade On Granddaughter’s Show Jumping Expenses
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Belinda's daughter learns a thing or two about drug testing!
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/canada-s- ... -1.4734983
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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stark wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:24 pm
Belinda's daughter learns a thing or two about drug testing!
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/canada-s- ... -1.4734983
It was a mistake that happened because she was served unlabelled tea at a hotel. She feels horrible enough about it already.
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Northport wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:50 pm
stark wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:24 pm
Belinda's daughter learns a thing or two about drug testing!
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/canada-s- ... -1.4734983
It was a mistake that happened because she was served unlabelled tea at a hotel. She feels horrible enough about it already.
At least that’s the story and they’re sticking to it. When I was teaching HS in so. CA, a student won the US Olympic Trials in two events and qualified for a third in swimming. After the trials she tested positive for a banned substance which she presumably ingested while taking an OTC cold remedy—she was ill going into the trials. As a result she was DQ’d and didn’t make the team, even though she was expected to qualify and win the two events she did. You have to be beyond careful with everything that goes in your body when competing at that level.
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I'm with Curtis on this one. When you know you are being regularly tested for drugs you shouldn't be putting unlabeled anything into your body.

Tough lesson to learn that unfortunately cost an Olympic berth for multiple persons.
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Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:51 pm

What Id really like to know is which Stronach decided to renovate and tear up the limited seating at Gulfstream and not have it done before the winter meet starts, it truly is something of a joke, the restructure of the Pegasus is just icing on the cake.
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firehorse wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:51 pm
What Id really like to know is which Stronach decided to renovate and tear up the limited seating at Gulfstream and not have it done before the winter meet starts, it truly is something of a joke, the restructure of the Pegasus is just icing on the cake.
Are they adding to the seating or just improving it? I'm going to Miami in May but will be there less than 24 hours as my wife and I are going on a cruise for our anniversary. I have plans to visit Hialeah just to see the architecture and grounds, I know what little racing is done there is unsanctioned. From what I've heard, Gulfstream is a mega-mall with a racetrack. Anything to see there?
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Curtis wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:04 am
firehorse wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:51 pm
What Id really like to know is which Stronach decided to renovate and tear up the limited seating at Gulfstream and not have it done before the winter meet starts, it truly is something of a joke, the restructure of the Pegasus is just icing on the cake.
Are they adding to the seating or just improving it? I'm going to Miami in May but will be there less than 24 hours as my wife and I are going on a cruise for our anniversary. I have plans to visit Hialeah just to see the architecture and grounds, I know what little racing is done there is unsanctioned. From what I've heard, Gulfstream is a mega-mall with a racetrack. Anything to see there?
To be fair, I know a lot of people that like the new Gulfstream, I am just not one of them. To me, it is a racetrack/mall, with no character. Part of this might be that I look back to the Winters I was lucky enough to have spent at the old Gulfstream as some of the happiest times of my life. Just thinking about walking up to the old clubhouse entrance brings tears to my eyes. I have so many wonderful memories from that place that it almost pains me to go to the new track. It has no character whatsoever.

As for Hialeah, I only spent about 20 days there, most of them in the mid 90s when it was past it's heyday, but it was truly a magical place. My time machine would definitely land there quite a bit. As it is, I have not been back there since 1997.
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Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:30 pm

A Paulick article a few years ago talked about most of the racing at Hialeah being unsanctioned quarter horse match races.

And I thought it was interesting that Stronach wanted to move the Preakness to Laurel because Pimlico is in such bad shape and would "cost too much to fix" yet dumped millions into the Pegasus.
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Mylute wrote:
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A Paulick article a few years ago talked about most of the racing at Hialeah being unsanctioned quarter horse match races.

And I thought it was interesting that Stronach wanted to move the Preakness to Laurel because Pimlico is in such bad shape and would "cost too much to fix" yet dumped millions into the Pegasus.
Different levels of millions. I think one of the biggest drawbacks to fixing up Pimlico is the immediate surroundings. If it could be made into a multi-use equestrian facility that can host a short meet, featuring the Preakness, it could be feasible. I have thought that someone enterprising—perhaps the BC itself, could take over Hialeah and run the BC there every year. Sure you could get some precipitation, but the climate would be temperate and, talk about history.
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firehorse wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:51 pm
What Id really like to know is which Stronach decided to renovate and tear up the limited seating at Gulfstream and not have it done before the winter meet starts, it truly is something of a joke, the restructure of the Pegasus is just icing on the cake.
I'll guess that Stronach is more of a visionary, not interested in entertaining old guys with steel trap memories of yesteryear, but rather having a respect for the interweb and its impact on the game along with the new fans in 2025 yet to be entertained.
You never miss what you never had.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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stark wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:17 pm
firehorse wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:51 pm
What Id really like to know is which Stronach decided to renovate and tear up the limited seating at Gulfstream and not have it done before the winter meet starts, it truly is something of a joke, the restructure of the Pegasus is just icing on the cake.
I'll guess that Stronach is more of a visionary, not interested in entertaining old guys with steel trap memories of yesteryear, but rather having a respect for the interweb and its impact on the game along with the new fans in 2025 yet to be entertained.
You never miss what you never had.
You mean like his vision of Dixon Downs? He should'a looked for a milder climate like Vegas to realize that vision or maybe the heat in the greater Sac-town area fueled the vision in the first place.
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Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:37 pm

Curtis wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:07 pm
stark wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:17 pm
firehorse wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:51 pm
What Id really like to know is which Stronach decided to renovate and tear up the limited seating at Gulfstream and not have it done before the winter meet starts, it truly is something of a joke, the restructure of the Pegasus is just icing on the cake.
I'll guess that Stronach is more of a visionary, not interested in entertaining old guys with steel trap memories of yesteryear, but rather having a respect for the interweb and its impact on the game along with the new fans in 2025 yet to be entertained.
You never miss what you never had.
You mean like his vision of Dixon Downs? He should'a looked for a milder climate like Vegas to realize that vision or maybe the heat in the greater Sac-town area fueled the vision in the first place.
Hey, nobody is right every time.
As things have turned out, looks like the condos on the hillside was pretty darn good idea!
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:50 pm

Curtis wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:04 am
firehorse wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:51 pm
What Id really like to know is which Stronach decided to renovate and tear up the limited seating at Gulfstream and not have it done before the winter meet starts, it truly is something of a joke, the restructure of the Pegasus is just icing on the cake.
Are they adding to the seating or just improving it? I'm going to Miami in May but will be there less than 24 hours as my wife and I are going on a cruise for our anniversary. I have plans to visit Hialeah just to see the architecture and grounds, I know what little racing is done there is unsanctioned. From what I've heard, Gulfstream is a mega-mall with a racetrack. Anything to see there?
‘Improving’ it would be a misnomer - there was limited seating to begin with, abt 3-4 years ago they added some lower boxes not under cover - what they have done is torn out the original seating and r putting dining tables. This the equivalent of Santa Anita tearing up the clubhouse apron and putting in tables in my opinion, a nice middle finger to your everyday paying racing fan. What port are you leaving from? If you only have 24 hrs I would do Hialeah park before Gulfstream park just for the nostlgia. I would then get some flan at the KFC @ 811 W. 49th St. If you r leaving from Fort Lauderdale you might be able to fit in both on the same day.
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