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Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:13 pm

Let's say that Australia did have a HOTY Champion or whatever named Idaho.

Coolmore's Idaho should still be able to race in his own name. Sorry not sorry but people should be able to tell the difference.

If two "Idahos" ran in the same race it would be understandable to refer to one as Idaho Ire, or Idaho Usa, or Idaho Ger, etc.

But otherwise it's really stupid.
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:41 pm

About 50 horses have travelled to Moonee Valley this morning to gallop at "Breakfast With The Best" no horses are trained at Moonee Valley but they allow gallops on the track the Tuesday before the Cox Plate and invite the public to see the stars including Winx and many of her stablemates. Also broadcast live on television.

Winx galloped 24.39 her final 400m (quarter mile)
Some vision https://mobile.twitter.com/CoxPlate/sta ... 5600510978
Pics https://mobile.twitter.com/TheValley/st ... 6064774145
https://mobile.twitter.com/RacingInside ... 9342729217

Hugh Bowmans comments https://mobile.twitter.com/Racing/statu ... 1481858048
Chris Waller comments https://mobile.twitter.com/Racing/statu ... 3238504448
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:58 pm

Mylute wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:13 pm
Let's say that Australia did have a HOTY Champion or whatever named Idaho.

Coolmore's Idaho should still be able to race in his own name. Sorry not sorry but people should be able to tell the difference.

If two "Idahos" ran in the same race it would be understandable to refer to one as Idaho Ire, or Idaho Usa, or Idaho Ger, etc.

But otherwise it's really stupid.
Yup us New Zealanders have had this problem for years. Often our horses have to have My, Mr, Miss, or The added to our names when we travel to plunder the Aussie riches. We often wonder if Aussie owners look to New Zealand horses for inspiration before naming there horses.

Often in trials you can get unnamed horses by the same sire in the same trial but then the commentator just refers to them by their dam name or trainer. It works out fine everyone knows who they are talking about.

Can make the case that a name change makes it more difficult. There was a occasion when the New Zealand Comin'through and Aussie Comin'through both 3yos were set to meet in a race in Sydney but the New Zealand one was renamed Here He Comes. As you can imagine owners and trainers were pretty frustrated and upset throughout the race.
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:50 pm

The final field for the G1 Cox Plate has come out and Winx has drawn barrier 6 against seven opponents. Interestingly the Stewards refused the entry of one horse who they declared is out of form

Race 8 - 12:00AM Ladbrokes Cox Plate (2040 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race MeetingOf $5,000,000.1st $3,000,000, 2nd $750,000, 3rd $375,000, 4th $250,000, 5th $200,000, 6th $100,000, 7th $100,000, 8th $75,000, 9th $75,000, 10th $75,000
Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 1
Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 

Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Hcp Rating
1 BENBATL (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor Oisin Murphy 3 59kg 123
2 HUMIDOR (NZ) Darren Weir Damian Lane 7 59kg 118
3 KINGS WILL DREAM (IRE) Darren Weir John Allen 4 59kg 116
4 AVILIUS (GB) James Cummings Glyn Schofield 1 59kg 115
5 D’ARGENTO Chris Waller Kerrin McEvoy 2 57.5kg 116
6 WINX Chris Waller Hugh Bowman 6 57kg 130
7 ROSTROPOVICH (IRE) Aidan O'Brien Ryan Moore 8 56kg 113
8 SAVVY COUP (NZ) Michael & Matthew Pitman Chris Johnson 5 55.5kg 113

Fingers crossed Michael Pitman who is currently battling cancer can make the trip from New Zealand to watch his girl Savvy Coup!
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:09 pm

The G1 Manikato Stakes will be held on Friday night in Australia (Friday morning US time) includes some Internationals. Note the weight advantage for (spring) 3yo filly Sunlight against older horses.

Race 5 - 12:00AM Ladbrokes Manikato Stakes (1200 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race MeetingOf $1,000,000.1st $600,000, 2nd $180,000, 3rd $90,000, 4th $45,000, 5th $25,000, 6th $20,000, 7th $20,000, 8th $20,000
Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 1
Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 

Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Hcp Rating
1 BRAVE SMASH (JPN) Darren Weir Hugh Bowman 9 58.5kg 112
2 KEMENTARI James Cummings Glyn Schofield 12 58.5kg 110
3 MALAGUERRA Peter Gelagotis Ben Melham 1 58.5kg 112
4 VOODOO LAD Darren Weir Mark Zahra 8 58.5kg 110
5 JUNGLE EDGE Mick Bell Dylan Dunn 6 58.5kg 108
6 SPIRIT OF VALOR (USA) Aidan O'Brien Oisin Murphy 14 58.5kg 106
7 INTELLIGENCE CROSS (USA) Aidan O'Brien Emmet McNamara 5 58.5kg 102
8 U S NAVY FLAG (USA) Aidan O'Brien Ryan Moore 2 58kg 116
9 FLEET REVIEW (USA) Aidan O'Brien Kerrin McEvoy 11 58kg 107
10 HOUTZEN Toby Edmonds Ryan Maloney 4 56.5kg
11 TULIP David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Regan Bayliss 10 56.5kg 96
12 SPRIGHT Garry Frazer Damien Oliver 13 56.5kg 106
13 INVINCIBLE STAR Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Stephen Baster 7 56.5kg
14 SUNLIGHT Tony McEvoy Tim Clark 3 51kg 100
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:41 pm

If a son of Frankel won the Cox Plate and beat Winx (I love her and all... but I loved Frankel first), I would be the happiest lil Canadian on the planet.

I hope US Navy Flag gets his ground in the Manikato. He had no hope in the Everest before the gates were even open.

And Australia's rule for changing the name of visiting horses quite frankly is so stupid. I get if the horse is imported (ie. Our Voodoo Prince - was Voodoo Prince in GB, It's a Dundeel - was Dundeel in NZL), then yeah, I guess change the name if you really need to? But the horse will have a different country suffix than it's Australian twin, so where is the confusion, really?
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:51 pm

Ground is currently a Good4 expecting fine weather throughout the week and they plan to water the track Thursday morning.
The most interesting part about the Dundeel name saga is they forced the change when he was racing (due to a nonwinner filly the same age named Done Deal) but when he went to stud in Australia they let him stand under his original name :roll:
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Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:48 am

Voodoo Prince being the first son out of my beloved Ouija Board, was near and dear to my heart and I was very confused by the name change, at the time not knowing the Aussie rules. I was devastated when he had to be euthanized after fracturing his pastern during a race.
A filly named Ruffian...

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Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

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And a Queen named Beholder
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Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:24 pm

US Navy Flag has had some big bets placed on him for the Manikato Stakes on Friday night
https://www.punters.com.au/news/big-bet ... er_173855/
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Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:32 pm

Oops I forgot to put the Geelong Cup field up. This race is TODAY in about 3.5 hours and winner will get into the MelbCup. Past winners include Qewy, Dunaden, Americain, & Media Puzzle

Race 7 - 4:00PM bet365 Geelong Cup (2400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race MeetingOf $350,000.1st $210,000, 2nd $63,000, 3rd $31,500, 4th $15,750, 5th $8,750, 6th $7,000, 7th $7,000, 8th $7,000
Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 3
Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 5 

Field Limit: 17 + 4 EM    NOMINATIONS EXTENDED TO: 21/10/2018 05:00:00 PM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Hcp Rating
1 FINCHE (GB) Chris Waller Hugh Bowman 4 59kg 107
2 ONE FOOT IN HEAVEN (IRE) Chris Waller Corey Brown 8 58kg 105
3 WITHHOLD (GB) Roger Charlton Kerrin McEvoy 6 58kg 105
4 WALL OF FIRE (IRE) Ciaron Maher & David Eustace Mark Zahra 14 57kg 103
5 ZACADA (NZ) Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman Damian Lane 11 56.5kg 102
6 CASTERTON (IRE) Chris Waller Michael Walker 10 55.5kg 100
7 MIDTERM (GB) Liam Howley Ben Melham 9 54.5kg 98
8 NORTHWEST PASSAGE Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Dwayne Dunn 1 54.5kg 98
9 YOGI (NZ) Darren Weir Dean Yendall 13 54.5kg 98
10 HARIPOUR (IRE )Darren Weir Luke Nolen 7 54kg 95
11 RUNAWAY Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Stephen Baster 12 54kg 91
12 GUARDINI (FR) Darren Weir Ben Thompson 2 54kg 90
13 MASTER ZEPHYR (GB) Darren Weir Harry Coffey 15 54kg 89
14 CHEQUERED FLAG (NZ) Darren Weir Beau Mertens 3 54kg 87
15 WHEAL LEISURE Archie Alexander Jye McNeil 5 54kg 83
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:37 am

Result of the Geelong Cup
1st: Runaway
2nd:Northwest Passage
3rd: Finche

Race favourite & MelbCup entrant Withhold bleed and was found to be lame after the race. Under Australian rules he faces a standdown from racing for 3 months
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:48 pm

Interesting to see that Finche is still owned by Juddmonte, since it seems like Prince Khalid doesn't do a lot of racing in Australia. Last horseI remember of his running was when Sir Michael Stoute sent Snow Sky to the Melbourne Cup.

In another Juddmonte vein, it looks like Midterm (Galileo X Midday) is now owned by the Williams family, if only he was as fast as either of his parents!
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:19 pm

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Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:48 pm
Interesting to see that Finche is still owned by Juddmonte, since it seems like Prince Khalid doesn't do a lot of racing in Australia. Last horseI remember of his running was when Sir Michael Stoute sent Snow Sky to the Melbourne Cup.

In another Juddmonte vein, it looks like Midterm (Galileo X Midday) is now owned by the Williams family, if only he was as fast as either of his parents!
Yes the only time I can remember the Juddmonte colours being worn in Australia is for a MelbCup. Though my understanding is that Finche will become a permanent Aussie resident they seem to think Aussie racing will suit him better
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:26 pm

Overjoyed to report that the trainer of Savvy Coup Michael Pitman has been given the green light by Doctors to travel to Australia to watch his pride and joy take on Winx in the Cox Plate! "I'm not sure if it is the right thing to be doing (after cancer surgery) but I'm doing it anyway!"

You can read his realistic expectations on the chances of Savvy Coup here
https://www.racingnews.co.nz/blog/post/ ... een-light/

EDIT our racing channel has just posted this (I'm not crying it is the dust in here)
https://mobile.twitter.com/TAB_Racing/s ... 8456718337
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:49 pm

Result of the G1 Manikato Stakes last night

1st: Brave Smash Hugh Bowman
2nd: Spirit of Valor
3rd: Kementari

Big news Oisin Murphy was suspended for his ride on Spirit Of Valor. He decided to defer his suspension so he can ride in the Breeders Cup but not the Melbourne Cup
https://www.racing.com/news/2018-10-26/ ... y-cup-ride
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:23 pm

I don't blame Oisin for choosing the BC over the Melbourne Cup. Yes, the 'Cup is The Race That Stops a Nation, but he couldn't refuse the chance to ride Roaring Lion to a potential history-making win in the Classic. 8-)
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:54 pm

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Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:23 pm
I don't blame Oisin for choosing the BC over the Melbourne Cup. Yes, the 'Cup is The Race That Stops a Nation, but he couldn't refuse the chance to ride Roaring Lion to a potential history-making win in the Classic. 8-)
I don't either. The Melbourne Cup is the Melbourne Cup but this might be Oisin's only, and best, shot at the Classic.
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:30 pm

I see that the Cox Plate is due to go off at 11 PM Pacific (thank you, DRF Entries), which would be 2 AM Eastern. Ouch.
The timing is fine for this stays-up-late Left Coaster, but not so easy for East Coast fans. :shock:
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:54 pm

Set my alarm, but truly I am so anxious for the Cox Plate I might just read until it goes off! Yes, 2 AM here on East Coast and up early to feed the horses ( in a nor’Easter)
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:39 pm

RugbyGirl wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:49 pm
Result of the G1 Manikato Stakes last night

1st: Brave Smash Hugh Bowman
2nd: Spirit of Valor
3rd: Kementari
Yay for Brave Smash! :D
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