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Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:42 am
by peeptoad
lurkey mclurker wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:03 pm
I looked to see if this was posted already, and didn't see anything, so apologies if I missed it.

https://thehorse.com/175555/
Excellent read, 'lurkey. Thanks for posting it...

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:53 am
by MySaladDays
Kurenai wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:53 am

None of the trainers I worked for ever used water withdrawal. If a horse bleeds, they are rested for a few weeks. If they bleed again, they're retired. That's more humane than pumping them full with Lasix and other drugs. ;)

The climate we have here (Germany, France, England, Italy) isn't really different from Kentucky btw. :lol:
That brings to mind an interview they did with John Nerud, I had many years ago copied it out and saved it:

"Legendary trainer John Nerud, 98, said he only had one chronic bleeder in his long career. He said one out of 10 times he would spot a little blood on the grass where a horse grazed after racing. To these horses he would give iron, Vitamin B12, and ascorbic acid, which is a form of Vitamin C.
And rest.
On the count of the rest, Nerud had the right idea. It can take burst capillaries two to three weeks to repair themselves, and horses shouldn’t undergo strenuous exercise during that time."


I think horsemen here just don't want to give up their PEDs. But what is more worrying to me, aside from just getting a shot, is that we are breeding future "bleeders" because there is no doubt that it is a trait like any other that is passed on. By not retiring them from racing and allowing bleeders to continue to be part of the race track gene pool (they should not be bred for the racetrack, but for other sports and careers instead)
, I think I am not the only one in the world who thinks this is something that has long lasting effects, i.e. not just "on the day" we're giving the shots. We are perpetuating a weakness.

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:50 am
by stark
For Breeders Cup weekend they are importing 20 (that's twenty) VETS to look things over prior to post time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:13 pm
by stark
While trainer Jerry Hollendorfer is being ruled off Calif. tracks....
What about owner Jerry Hollendorfer, is he too not allowed Belinda?

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:16 am
by peeptoad
Los Angeles to consider banning horse racing
https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/07/21/los ... se-racing/

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:27 am
by stark
peeptoad wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:16 am
Los Angeles to consider banning horse racing
https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/07/21/los ... se-racing/
Nutcase going after rodeos first, then horse racing, probably the same speech used for both?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvinwaiki9I

Hollywood screenwriter who supports Maryanne Williamson for President, nuff said.
http://sistergiant.com/roger-wolfson/

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am
by Curtis
peeptoad wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:16 am
Los Angeles to consider banning horse racing
https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/07/21/los ... se-racing/
To the best of my knowledge, there is no horse racing in the city of Los Angeles. It’s been awhile since I lived there, but I don’t remember any OTB’s within the city limits, unless they’re talking about banning L.A. residents from wagering on the internet. Does the “F” in FOX News stand for “fake.”

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:54 am
by peeptoad
Curtis wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am
peeptoad wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:16 am
Does the “F” in FOX News stand for “fake.”
almost certainly... but I'm only the middle man.

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:00 pm
by Curtis
peeptoad wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:54 am
Curtis wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am
peeptoad wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:16 am
Does the “F” in FOX News stand for “fake.”
almost certainly... but I'm only the middle man.
😉

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:16 pm
by stark
Curtis wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am
peeptoad wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:16 am
Los Angeles to consider banning horse racing
https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/07/21/los ... se-racing/
To the best of my knowledge, there is no horse racing in the city of Los Angeles. It’s been awhile since I lived there, but I don’t remember any OTB’s within the city limits, unless they’re talking about banning L.A. residents from wagering on the internet. Does the “F” in FOX News stand for “fake.”
Most excellent point Curtis.

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:45 pm
by stark

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:11 pm
by greyhorse
Paulick Report article about Hollendorfer's fatality stats being in line with the national average. I can attest to the quote at the end about them checking every horse top to bottom every day and jogging them based on my experience working in his barn one summer. Jerry wasn't there doing it himself every day - he usually only drove/flew down from Nor Cal for days when a lot of horses worked out, and/or big races - but if he didn't, the just-as-capable assistant, Dan Ward, did.

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray- ... l-average/

Re: Santa Anita 2019

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:05 am
by stark
from DRF.......

Santa Anita will not run races on its hillside turf course at the autumn meeting, which begins on Sept. 27, and will run turf sprints at 5 and 5 1/2 furlongs during the six-week season.

This will be the first season Santa Anita will run turf sprints at 5 1/2 furlongs. Track maintenance crews have been constructing a backstretch chute this summer to accommodate races at the distance. The races will start on the main track for a few strides before joining the main turf oval.

The only races that will utilized the hillside turf course in any capacity will be the start of marathon turf races at distances of 1 1/4 miles and 1 1/2 miles, according to racing secretary Steve Lym.

The meeting is highlighted by the Breeders’ Cup races on Nov. 1-2. Thursday, Santa Anita published the stakes schedule for the season, which includes 29 non-Breeders’ Cup races.