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stark
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:24 pm

Interesting team workout from Monday that BB is gearing up....

Roadster (remember him?) goes 6F in 1.10.2 from the gate. Next fastest worker of the morning was another Baffert in 1.12.2. 18 workers in total.

Along side Roadster in the gate was the unraced Reedley going just 5F, but still highly thought of.

Video...
https://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/road ... 17th-2019/

Roadster
Santa Anita 2/17/2019 Dirt 6F 1:10.60 Handily from the gate 1/18
Santa Anita 2/10/2019 Dirt 5F 1:02.00 Handily 26/35
Santa Anita 1/30/2019 Dirt 4F 49.80 Handily 44/77

Reedley
Santa Anita 2/17/2019 Dirt 5F 1:00.00 Handily from the gate 2/74
Santa Anita 2/12/2019 Dirt 4F 48.20 Handily 19/96
Santa Anita 1/30/2019 Dirt 4F 49.80 Handily 44/77
Santa Anita 1/23/2019 Dirt 4F 48.00 Handily 4/22
Santa Anita 12/27/2018 Dirt 4F 48.00 Handily 4/37
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:01 pm

stark wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:24 pm
Interesting team workout from Monday that BB is gearing up....

Roadster (remember him?) goes 6F in 1.10.2 from the gate. Next fastest worker of the morning was another Baffert in 1.12.2. 18 workers in total.

Along side Roadster in the gate was the unraced Reedley going just 5F, but still highly thought of.

Video...
https://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/road ... 17th-2019/

Roadster
Santa Anita 2/17/2019 Dirt 6F 1:10.60 Handily from the gate 1/18
Santa Anita 2/10/2019 Dirt 5F 1:02.00 Handily 26/35
Santa Anita 1/30/2019 Dirt 4F 49.80 Handily 44/77

Reedley
Santa Anita 2/17/2019 Dirt 5F 1:00.00 Handily from the gate 2/74
Santa Anita 2/12/2019 Dirt 4F 48.20 Handily 19/96
Santa Anita 1/30/2019 Dirt 4F 49.80 Handily 44/77
Santa Anita 1/23/2019 Dirt 4F 48.00 Handily 4/22
Santa Anita 12/27/2018 Dirt 4F 48.00 Handily 4/37
Roadster has always been a nice looking colt. I wonder what Baffert has in mind for him?
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:55 pm

Game Winner, Improbable both on track for San Felipe
In a surprising development, trainer Bob Baffert on Tuesday said there is a very good chance his top two Kentucky Derby prospects, Game Winner and Improbable, could make their 3-year-old debuts against one another in the Grade 2, $500,000 San Felipe Stakes on March 9 at Santa Anita.

“I have a feeling they’ll both be in there,” Baffert said. “It might be Clemson vs. Alabama.”
More: https://classic.drf.com/news/game-winne ... san-felipe
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:24 pm

Intrepid Heart ❤️ was impressive in debut at Oaklawn on Monday.
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:59 pm
Form a Dream is gorgeous! Ebby was a beautiful mare, and I hope her offspring can realize the potential that she had shown before that gate debacle in NY (can't remember the name of the stakes race).
Glad they went with Oasis Dream to hopefully inject such much-needed speed.
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:06 am

Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen - February 19, 2019
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx

Did anyone else catch the debut of Intrepid Heart?
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:10 am

Yes! Very impressive. But my posts are usually ignored.
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:18 am

Wasn't ignoring you, Squeaky. I saw the race and it was impressive. But Intrepid Heart's a $750k Todd A. Pletcher two year old purchase and he won like one. I usually wait for a couple more races before I get too excited. My heart's been broken too many times, I guess, lol.
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm

Starine wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:06 am
Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen - February 19, 2019
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx
It's simply an opinion, but I take a bit of issue with this statement regarding War of Will: ...you can say that proven stakes horses like Mr. Money and Manny Wah backing up, along with $2.6 million yearling Gun It makes him look better... since neither Manny Wah nor Mr Money are proven stakes horses. Both are a combined 0-8 in stakes company. Unless I miss the point Haskin was trying to make. :?:

Anyway, nothing's grabbing me yet re Derby contenders.
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:06 pm

peeptoad wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm
Starine wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:06 am
Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen - February 19, 2019
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx
It's simply an opinion, but I take a bit of issue with this statement regarding War of Will: ...you can say that proven stakes horses like Mr. Money and Manny Wah backing up, along with $2.6 million yearling Gun It makes him look better... since neither Manny Wah nor Mr Money are proven stakes horses. Both are a combined 0-8 in stakes company. Unless I miss the point Haskin was trying to make. :?:

Anyway, nothing's grabbing me yet re Derby contenders.
I think what he meant by that was Manny Wah is because he is MSP and GSP, that implies that because he has performed well in stakes races, and therefore he is considered a quality horse (at least in Haskin's eyes). Kind of like how a breeder will list a horse in their stallion's progeny as a "stakes horse" when they haven't won but have hit the board in several. But that doesn't explain why he listed Mr. Money as a stakes horse. Maybe he meant another horse?

Anyway, out of the bunch that have actually raced this year, I do like War of Will, Harvey Wallbanger, and Omaha Beach. I also like Nitrous going forward in general.
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:30 pm

Intrepid Heart Returns Lows to Oaklawn Winner’s Circle
Robert and Lawana Low won a pair of graded Triple Crown preps at Oaklawn Park a year ago with Magnum Moon (Malibu Moon) and the couple’s colors were back in the winner’s circle in Little Rock Monday with the impressive debut of Intrepid Heart (Tapit). The gray sophomore was tabbed a ‘TDN Rising Star’ after his scintillating 7 3/4-length victory (video) on the GIII Southwest S. undercard.
More: http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/in ... rs-circle/
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:00 pm

peeptoad wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm
Starine wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:06 am
Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen - February 19, 2019
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx
It's simply an opinion, but I take a bit of issue with this statement regarding War of Will: ...you can say that proven stakes horses like Mr. Money and Manny Wah backing up, along with $2.6 million yearling Gun It makes him look better... since neither Manny Wah nor Mr Money are proven stakes horses. Both are a combined 0-8 in stakes company. Unless I miss the point Haskin was trying to make. :?:

Anyway, nothing's grabbing me yet re Derby contenders.
It's pretty clear that Steve neither really follows the Derby Trail nor does he do any legwork to get information.
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:27 pm

Squeaky wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:10 am
Yes! Very impressive. But my posts are usually ignored.
Sorry I missed yours earlier; was in too much of a hurry after getting home from practice last night. ;) It might be too late to make the Derby, but he certainly appears to have a bright future regardless.

I'm also fascinated by the dam who --as Haskin pointed out-- produced runners-up in both the Belmont Stakes and Breeders' Cup Sprint.
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:40 pm

thinair wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:00 pm
peeptoad wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm
Starine wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:06 am
Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen - February 19, 2019
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx
It's simply an opinion, but I take a bit of issue with this statement regarding War of Will: ...you can say that proven stakes horses like Mr. Money and Manny Wah backing up, along with $2.6 million yearling Gun It makes him look better... since neither Manny Wah nor Mr Money are proven stakes horses. Both are a combined 0-8 in stakes company. Unless I miss the point Haskin was trying to make. :?:

Anyway, nothing's grabbing me yet re Derby contenders.
It's pretty clear that Steve neither really follows the Derby Trail nor does he do any legwork to get information.
Amen! Derby lists are dumb to me but I get why people like them, but the reverence given to Haskins list is truly mind boggling.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:03 am

Mylute wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:06 pm

I think what he meant by that was Manny Wah is because he is MSP and GSP, that implies that because he has performed well in stakes races, and therefore he is considered a quality horse (at least in Haskin's eyes). Kind of like how a breeder will list a horse in their stallion's progeny as a "stakes horse" when they haven't won but have hit the board in several. But that doesn't explain why he listed Mr. Money as a stakes horse. Maybe he meant another horse?
That is probably what he meant, but to me "proven" means winning, not getting beaten 8 times by the competition.

thinair wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:00 pm
peeptoad wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm
Starine wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:06 am
Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen - February 19, 2019
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx
It's simply an opinion, but I take a bit of issue with this statement regarding War of Will: ...you can say that proven stakes horses like Mr. Money and Manny Wah backing up, along with $2.6 million yearling Gun It makes him look better... since neither Manny Wah nor Mr Money are proven stakes horses. Both are a combined 0-8 in stakes company. Unless I miss the point Haskin was trying to make. :?:

Anyway, nothing's grabbing me yet re Derby contenders.
It's pretty clear that Steve neither really follows the Derby Trail nor does he do any legwork to get information.
Actually that wasn't entirely clear to me since I posed the question.
But I suppose I did have an inkling. ;)

Like Som, I'm not a huge fan of Derby lists (film lists are another story) but I do find it interesting to read some of the reasoning people give for including or liking certain horses as Derby contenders, esp. since it's probably the most analyzed single race in existence.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:07 pm

Lists Lists everywhere there's a list.
If you're a college football fan the latest issue of Sports Illustrated is a favorite where they rank all the teams.
And they don't limit themselves to the Colleges, as Pro's get ranked too, Baseball, Football, whatever, there's lists out there that generate conversation.
The casual fan says "Did you see where they've got my Cubs picked on top"
While the gambler says "I'm gonna bet against that"
And so on and so on.

Horse racing has its lists too.
The aforementioned Haskin along with the DRF team of Watchmaker/Privman, Santa Anita's Jon White, the teams at TVG and HRTV, not sure if anybody out of NY publishes one, but we have Kennedy and Matt to name a couple here, but there are others including the Louisville Courier Journal et al.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any publication, any list that generates conversation for their sport is good by me. It's tradition and at some point most people enjoy reading other's opinions either seriously or just for giggles. It's like somebody taking notes in your local Cheers Tavern and writing it all down to share on the WWW. Maybe it's all about bragging rights for the author? The bookies don't care which list you use, just bet.

1,327 lists currently in publication and Haskin gets singled out.....ridiculous!
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:44 pm

stark wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:07 pm

1,327 lists currently in publication and Haskin gets singled out.....ridiculous!
Actually, THIS is ridiculous. Haskin was hardly "singled out." The response was to someone discussing his list. He is often referred to on this board, far more than any other published list, and frankly there aren't that many. For someone in his position, his work is shoddy, and it shows.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:40 pm

I'd like to know a listmaker that you respect and admire the effort they put forth
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:50 pm

stark wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:40 pm
I'd like to know a listmaker that you respect and admire the effort they put forth
Privman puts enormous effort into his work for DRF and it shows.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:56 pm

Thanks, always nice to hear something nice about somebody in your business
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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