Older Horses - 2019

Horsebagger
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Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:38 pm

Some effort by Imperial Hint to overcome javi trying his best to toast him.
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Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:39 pm

Horsebagger wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:38 pm
Some effort by Imperial Hint to overcome javi trying his best to toast him.
Good luck repeating that effort in a month.
katmandu
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Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:40 pm

That's why Imperial Hint makes the really big bucks.
Tessablue
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Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:42 pm

Not what you look for in a prep, but boy do I love that horse. He's just wonderful.
BaroqueAgain1
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Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:38 pm

Checking out the Results on DRF, I see that Imperial Hint is still a HORSE.
I don't know what his connections' plans are for his retirement, but I hope some farm gives this little rocket ship a chance at stud. I fear his diminutive stature might make some breeders pause but, damn, his heart and talent are huge. :mrgreen:
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Mylute
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:41 am

So...Mongolian Groom.
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:25 am

Mylute wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:41 am
So...Mongolian Groom.
He has a decent resume of always showing up.
He deserved that W. Why Mike didn’t just let McKINZIE go baffles me. I swear I was only half joking when I wondered if Johnny V could stay and ride
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:16 pm

Starine wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:06 pm
I just want to say that I'm really amused that today's Ack Ack (G3) at Churchill has a Mr. Darcy, a Mr. Jaegermeister, and a Mr. Freeze. And they will all break alongside each other.
Mr. Freeze won and Mr. Darcy was third.
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Curtis
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:30 pm

honneerider wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:25 am
Mylute wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:41 am
So...Mongolian Groom.
He has a decent resume of always showing up.
He deserved that W. Why Mike didn’t just let McKINZIE go baffles me. I swear I was only half joking when I wondered if Johnny V could stay and ride
I don’t think McKinzie was fully cranked—I didn’t get the impression any of Baffert’s were so far this weekend. The goal looks to be the Classic and then a stud deal. If he were mine, I would have went for it yesterday, then—predicated on his health—run him back in the Dirt Mile, the Cigar Mile and then the Pegasus. After that I’d work towards next year’s Classic. I think he could be at 5 what City of Light could have been had they went on with him. But next year with trying to figure out Improbable’s gate issues, keeping weight on Roadster, mixing in Mucho Gusto and then with all those 3yo’s, who has the time?
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:49 pm

I'm not sure how fair it is, but I've never quite felt like McKinzie was as good as his reputation. He has four odds-on losses, five if you count last year's DQ, and it feels like 10f in particular is just a bit beyond his scope. Dirt Mile/ Cigar/ Pegasus sounds like a perfect gameplan for him.

Mongolian Groom got a nice 110 yesterday, and Higher Power is a little interesting coming out of it too. He could have run a lot worse after that start.
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:22 pm

I agree. I never felt McKinzie was a 10 furlong horse. He has disappointed me often during his career.
Between McKinzie, Game Winner and Catholic Boy my cheerleading is getting rusty. Awaiting Bravazo!
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:41 pm

A factoid piece of trivia in regards to Imperial Hint - he's the only horse to have done a Vanderbilt - Vosburgh double/double.
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:23 pm

Tessablue wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:49 pm
I'm not sure how fair it is, but I've never quite felt like McKinzie was as good as his reputation. He has four odds-on losses, five if you count last year's DQ, and it feels like 10f in particular is just a bit beyond his scope. Dirt Mile/ Cigar/ Pegasus sounds like a perfect gameplan for him.

Mongolian Groom got a nice 110 yesterday, and Higher Power is a little interesting coming out of it too. He could have run a lot worse after that start.
Given the size of the Baffert Bandwagon, it’s the rare horse from that barn that does live up to it’s reputation. I think McKinzie can get 10f with the perfect trip. He got 10f in the Big ‘Cap just a fraction of a tick slower than Gift Box. I just wonder though, if you’re making a stallion, instead of going through all these machinations to have a horse win at 10f wouldn’t you be better off showing off what the horse does best? I like what Doug O’Neil did with Goldencents. He was one of the better two-turn milers of the last decade and Doug emphasized that as opposed to trying to get a signature win at 10f out of him. Charlie Whittingham used to take milers and turf horses and win 10f G1’s with them. Most of them didn’t make great stallions though because in the shed Charlie couldn’t move them up.
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:49 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:38 pm
Checking out the Results on DRF, I see that Imperial Hint is still a HORSE.
I don't know what his connections' plans are for his retirement, but I hope some farm gives this little rocket ship a chance at stud. I fear his diminutive stature might make some breeders pause but, damn, his heart and talent are huge. :mrgreen:
His size and pedigree (or lack thereof) are what's kept him on the track this long.
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:01 pm

honneerider wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:51 am
https://www.horseracingnation.com/news/ ... y_week_123

Catholic Boy has BC options and no prep
As they say, timing is everything, but he sure looks good cruising outside the dogs yesterday.
https://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/cath ... 29th-2019/
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:51 pm

honneerider wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:51 am
https://www.horseracingnation.com/news/ ... y_week_123

Catholic Boy has BC options and no prep
I may sound nuts for saying this, but I really think they should shoot for the Classic. Yes, I'm aware the horse hasn't run since July but he's working well and I think this is as weak a year as ever. Not to mention that perhaps the best of them, Code of Honor, may not even run. And his loss to Preservationist in the Suburban, in which the winner won in less than two minutes, was nothing to sneeze at. Why not swing for the fences?
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Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:59 pm

Hard to believe Coltandmississippi in for a tag in Bel6 today. I understand he's been mediocre since the derby trail but he seems like a good stallion prospect. His dam Selva had a strong career.
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:50 pm

Nice to see Arklow finally get his G1 in the Joe Hirsch Turf Classic today. Just a good old tough, hard knockin' horse. Doesn't get enough love around here!

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Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:50 pm

WarBiscuit wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:50 pm
Nice to see Arklow finally get his G1 in the Joe Hirsch Turf Classic today. Just a good old tough, hard knockin' horse. Doesn't get enough love around here!

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I was always a big Arch fan, and this one had been knocking at the door for some time. I'm glad he finally got that grade 1.
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