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The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:02 pm
by stark
1 Imperative (KY) 9/GL J A Bracho 118 A T Quartarolo 30/1
2 Forewarned (OH) 4/CL J Bisono 118U St. Lewis 30/1
3 Monongahela (PA) 5/HL J Lezcano 120 J Servis 12/1
4 Thunder Snow (IRE) 5/HL C Soumillon 124 S bin Suroor 3/1
5 Vino Rosso (KY) 4/C L J R Velazquez 124T A Pletcher 6/1
6 McKinzie (KY) 4/C L M E Smith 124 B Baffert 7/5
7 Yoshida (JPN) Owner Link 5/HL J Rosario 124 W I Mott 10/1
8 Preservationist (KY) Owner Link 6/H L J Alvarado 122 J A Jerkens 3/1

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:06 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Imperative? He last ran in April's Charles Town Classic, where he finished 8th and last. He has not won in over two years.
I fear his present connections are going to run this venerable gelding into the ground...until something breaks.
The nine-year-old was once a very good racehorse, and he deserves a pampered retirement. :(

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:26 pm
by Mylute
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:06 pm
Imperative? He last ran in April's Charles Town Classic, where he finished 8th and last. He has not won in over two years.
I fear his present connections are going to run this venerable gelding into the ground...until something breaks.
The nine-year-old was once a very good racehorse, and he deserves a pampered retirement. :(
I watched HorseCenter yesterday and Brian Zipse said he heard Ron Paolucci say that Imperative will be retired if he runs poorly again in the Whitney.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:23 pm
by WarBiscuit
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:06 pm
Imperative? He last ran in April's Charles Town Classic, where he finished 8th and last. He has not won in over two years.
I fear his present connections are going to run this venerable gelding into the ground...until something breaks.
The nine-year-old was once a very good racehorse, and he deserves a pampered retirement. :(
He's raced a couple of times since the CT Classic - actually won an allowance at Thistledown on June 10th, and finished 6th of 7(Carl Hanford Memorial Stakes) at Delaware Park on July 6th. But yeah, with over 3 million in his wallet, the connections would do well to consider retirement.

WarBiscuit

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:23 am
by Izvestia
For Imperative’s sake, I hope he plods around and is retired.

I’m rooting for Thunder Snow in this!

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:35 am
by MySaladDays
Mylute wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:26 pm
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:06 pm
Imperative? He last ran in April's Charles Town Classic, where he finished 8th and last. He has not won in over two years.
I fear his present connections are going to run this venerable gelding into the ground...until something breaks.
The nine-year-old was once a very good racehorse, and he deserves a pampered retirement. :(
I watched HorseCenter yesterday and Brian Zipse said he heard Ron Paolucci say that Imperative will be retired if he runs poorly again in the Whitney.
Then i will hope that he runs poorly. Enough already. Mr. Paolucci needs to find another horse now rather than juice out the last drop from his one-and-only

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:38 am
by MySaladDays
Izvestia wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:23 am
For Imperative’s sake, I hope he plods around and is retired.

I’m rooting for Thunder Snow in this!
LOve TS. I think this may be a little short of his optimum (which is 10F BCC style) but he can win from a mile and upwards as proved.......

If you look at the BCC official page I had to laugh how 250 experts voted mckinzie to win the BCC, who has won 1 race at 1-1/16th on a wet track. I hope he wins or places tomorrow so that if he goes to BCC I have an auto delete from the field. Of course you never know what kinda magic baffert will bring, but with the way things are at SA now, I think not. He did awful at Oaklawn last year when he shipped in for stakes races.

Rarely has a non USA bred won the Whitney. A horse I never liked much I am giving a shot to win here, Vino Rosso. Seems like the right race for him.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:39 am
by Flanders
MySaladDays wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:38 am
He did awful at Oaklawn last year when he shipped in for stakes races.
That wasn't McKinzie, it was Solomini.

McKinzie has been close in most of his races this year. He almost won the Santa Anita H. and showed last year he can win at 9f. Do I think he should be the favorite to win the BCC? Probably not but then I don't know who I would vote higher either. There isn't a true standout to me but I think McKinzie has been the most consistent.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:29 am
by Kurenai
As per usual: I will root for Thunder Snow :D

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:22 am
by Della
Kurenai wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:29 am
As per usual: I will root for Thunder Snow :D


Me too :)

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:17 am
by stark
Thunder Snow scratched.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:36 am
by luvsgeldings
yes Stark, I just heard that Thunder Snow scratched - he was coughing this morning(?) --- hope he is ok, but sorry he will miss the race - was looking forward to seeing him run today.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:49 am
by Mylute
Scratched with a fever and a cough.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:38 pm
by stark
TVG Ca$h-Keeper contest question.....
Will Preservationist finish in the top 3?

Going all in on YES.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:50 pm
by stark
stark wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:38 pm
TVG Ca$h-Keeper contest question.....
Will Preservationist finish in the top 3?

Going all in on YES.
Ahhh crap, that was my race #8, just needed two more after that.

Will have to wait until next week for a the very fun, challenging FREE contest.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:57 pm
by carole
I thought that looked a very comfortable win for McKinzie, no doubt he’s a very talented horse!

Also in the Test (GI) before, what a battle between Covfefe and Serengeti Empress!! Bellafina in 3rd, looks like they caught up to her.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:01 pm
by tachyon
Glad Yoshida ran well to finish second.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:25 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
I think keeping Yoshida closer to the field worked out better for him in the Whitney. He comes running in the stretch but, when he drops too far off the pace, he generally can't make up the ground.
I'm pleased to see McKinzie doing so well. We lost Street Cry much too soon, so seeing his Kentucky-Derby-winning son, Street Sense, do well as a stallion is very cool.

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:11 pm
by WarBiscuit
So, did Imperative earn his retirement today, or do they give him one more shot at something?

WarBiscuit

Re: The Million Dollar G1 Whitney Stakes

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:29 pm
by Starine
McKinzie ran well again and it was satisfying to see him win after losing the Met Mile in which he was clearly the best horse.

Pleasantly surprised to see Yoshida narrow the gap in a runner-up effort; I had my doubts about him closing into those fractions.

A lot of today's racing, admittedly, lost its luster with Thunder Snow out of this race and World of Trouble out of the Troy.