2019 Breeders Cup Classic and Watch

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Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:55 pm

I figured we might as well start this thread since we're getting relatively close.

While I doubt Catholic Boy, Gift Box, and Gunnevera will show up, here's the probables listed on HRN (which isn't 100% accurate but is fairly accurate) + Math Wizard.

Code of Honor
McKinzie
Maximum Security
Elate
Vino Rosso
Seeking the Soul
Higher Power
Presevationist
Math Wizard
Gift Box
Gunnevera
Catholic Boy
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:33 am

An hour and four minute break before the Classic.

Saturday, November 2 Post TImes
Race 1 10:07 AM
Race 2 10:42 AM
Race 3 11:17 AM
Race 4 11:55 AM
Race 5 12:33 PM
Race 6 1:10 PM
Race 7 1:54 PM
Race 8 2:36 PM
Race 9 3:20 PM
Race 10 4:00 PM
Race 11 4:40 PM
Race 12 5:44 PM Breeders’ Cup Classic
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:44 am

I doubt that Code of Honor or Max will make it either.
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:52 pm

Not the most compelling rendition, I'd suggest. No wonder why Mott has it under consideration for Elate.
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:18 pm

Horsebagger wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:52 pm
Not the most compelling rendition, I'd suggest. No wonder why Mott has it under consideration for Elate.
Is Tacitus on the shelf.......I don’t remember reading anything about him since the Travers.
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:43 pm

Curtis wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:18 pm
Horsebagger wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:52 pm
Not the most compelling rendition, I'd suggest. No wonder why Mott has it under consideration for Elate.
Is Tacitus on the shelf.......I don’t remember reading anything about him since the Travers.
I believe he'll be running in the JCGC this weekend. He's been working towards it.
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:01 pm

Tessablue wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:43 pm
Curtis wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:18 pm
Horsebagger wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:52 pm
Not the most compelling rendition, I'd suggest. No wonder why Mott has it under consideration for Elate.
Is Tacitus on the shelf.......I don’t remember reading anything about him since the Travers.
I believe he'll be running in the JCGC this weekend. He's been working towards it.
Thanks, that’s what I thought. With his ability to get big pieces of the purse and with the depleted field, The Classic wouldn’t be the worst spot in the world.
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:31 pm

Jay Privman
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A few notes re: this year's @BreedersCup, the 36th edition:

*14 BC races over 2 days, Nov. 1-2
*Like last year, all 2yo races Friday (Nov. 1)
*Race purses: $28 million
*10th time at @santaanitapark, 5th in last 8 yrs, 7th last 12.
*Pre-entries announced 10-23
*Posts drawn 10-28
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:32 pm

from DRF........

Mott: "I'm leaning toward the Classic a little bit" with Elate;
final BC prep Sunday in Spinster
Elate still has to get through the Spinster Stakes this Sunday at Keeneland, and she's already in the Breeders' Cup Distaff via a Win and You're In victory in the Fleur de Lis Stakes in June at Churchill Downs, but her trainer, Bill Mott, on Monday reiterated that the Breeders' Cup Classic remains a viable spot for the mare.

"I'm leaning toward the Classic a little bit," Mott said Monday, while emphasizing that nothing will be decided until after he sees how Elate performs in the Spinster.

The appeal of the Classic for Mott is that Elate is 3 for 3 at 1 1/4 miles. The Distaff, restricted to females, is 1 1/8 miles.

"I'm not ruling either race out," he said of the Distaff and the Classic, both of which are Nov. 2 at Santa Anita.

Mott also has the males Tacitus and Yoshida under consideration for the Classic.
https://live.drf.com/nuggets/49610-mott ... n-spinster
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:12 pm

And just remember, the powers that be wanted a Breeders Cup Derby.... :?
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:20 pm

CorridorZ75 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:12 pm
And just remember, the powers that be wanted a Breeders Cup Derby.... :?
Well, for a brief shining moment all of horse racing rallied in unison...…..against the idea of a Breeders Cup Derby. Thanks, Bobby Flay, for bringing us all together.
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:49 pm

Return To Turf, Possibly Breeders’ Cup Mile, Could Be In The Cards For Catholic Boy
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bree ... holic-boy/

I may sound nuts for saying this, but I really think they should shoot for the Classic. Yes, I'm aware the horse hasn't run since July but he's working well and I think this is as weak a year as ever. Not to mention that perhaps the best of them, Code of Honor, may not even run. And his loss to Preservationist in the Suburban, in which the winner won in less than two minutes, was nothing to sneeze at. Why not swing for the fences?
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:03 am

I also don't think he'll get 12f.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:34 am

Somnambulist wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:03 am
I also don't think he'll get 12f.
I think Starine was talking about Catholic Boy for the Classic.

As far as that goes it depends on whether they’re going to race him at 5. If not, maybe it’s not the worst stab in the world. If you plan on bringing him back, absolutely not, in fact I’d skip the BC altogether. Either way it’s a big ask.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:50 pm

Curtis wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:34 am
Somnambulist wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:03 am
I also don't think he'll get 12f.
I think Starine was talking about Catholic Boy for the Classic.

As far as that goes it depends on whether they’re going to race him at 5. If not, maybe it’s not the worst stab in the world. If you plan on bringing him back, absolutely not, in fact I’d skip the BC altogether. Either way it’s a big ask.
I thought they were aiming him towards the Turf. I don't think he has the turn of foot to do well in the mile. I'd go for the Classic too.

That is one unsound horse in any event.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:53 pm

McKinzie will have a new rider in the Breeders' Cup Classic on Nov. 2 at Santa Anita.

Trainer Bob Baffert on Tuesday said that he has decided to make a switch from Mike Smith, who has ridden McKinzie in all 13 of his career starts. This follows a second-place finish as the odds-on favorite in the Awesome Again Stakes on Saturday at Santa Anita, the colt's fourth second-place finish this year in six starts.

"I'm still going to use Mike on horses," Baffert said Tuesday. "But for the Classic, I'm going to make a change. I let Mike know now, because I want to give him a chance to get something else."

https://live.drf.com/nuggets/49611-mcki ... -of-change
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:22 pm

sort of thinking they should have taken smith off McKinzie some time ago - that horse has never tolerated the whip - and smith can be really fond of using it - curious to see who takes over though.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:28 pm

sorry for the back to back comments.... but forgot to mention - it would be a real hoot if Tacitus wins the BC Classic - sort of ala Cat Thief winning it years ago - Cat Thief waited until the final big race of the year to win a good one - funny if Tacitus finally does the same this year.

would enjoy seeing Elate give the classic a try - seeing another mare win it on the 10th anniversary of Zen's big Classic win.... would be fitting.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:12 pm

luvsgeldings wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:28 pm
sorry for the back to back comments.... but forgot to mention - it would be a real hoot if Tacitus wins the BC Classic - sort of ala Cat Thief winning it years ago - Cat Thief waited until the final big race of the year to win a good one
Cat Thief is clawing his way to the lead!

Durkin was so corny and yet so great.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:14 pm

stark wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:53 pm
McKinzie will have a new rider in the Breeders' Cup Classic on Nov. 2 at Santa Anita.

Trainer Bob Baffert on Tuesday said that he has decided to make a switch from Mike Smith, who has ridden McKinzie in all 13 of his career starts. This follows a second-place finish as the odds-on favorite in the Awesome Again Stakes on Saturday at Santa Anita, the colt's fourth second-place finish this year in six starts.

"I'm still going to use Mike on horses," Baffert said Tuesday. "But for the Classic, I'm going to make a change. I let Mike know now, because I want to give him a chance to get something else."

https://live.drf.com/nuggets/49611-mcki ... -of-change
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Sunday Silence-89, Black Tie Affiar-91, Arcangues-93, Skip Away-97, Raven’s Pass-08 all won Breeders’ Cup Classic with jockey riding horse for the first time
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