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2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:25 pm
by ThreeMustangs
Can’t wait to see how Independence Hall does in the Jerome later today.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:16 pm
by stark
ThreeMustangs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:25 pm
Can’t wait to see how Independence Hall does in the Jerome later today.
I always think 1/9 shots are going to do something exceptional, once I reduce my expectations then everything's fine.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:50 pm
by ThreeMustangs
Independence Hall acted up before the race, was slow out of the gate, but still won by 4 lengths. Bourbon Bay and Prince of Pharoahs dead-heated for second. All three are from their sire’s first crop (Constitution, AP, and Bayern).

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:57 pm
by Mylute
Hey how long has the Jerome been ungraded?

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:43 pm
by stark
ThreeMustangs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:50 pm
Independence Hall acted up before the race,
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Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:45 pm
by Starine
ThreeMustangs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:50 pm
Independence Hall acted up before the race, was slow out of the gate, but still won by 4 lengths. Bourbon Bay and Prince of Pharoahs dead-heated for second. All three are from their sire’s first crop (Constitution, AP, and Bayern).
That's interesting (re: the first crop thing).

I thought it was a good effort by the winner; it's a long way to Churchill in May and I like that this was more of a workmanlike run.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:52 pm
by Squeaky
stark wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:43 pm
ThreeMustangs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:50 pm
Independence Hall acted up before the race,
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The trainer saddling him just missed being kicked in the face... scary moment. He was standing calmly then jumped up in the air, twisted and kicked out all in an instant.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:16 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Shades of Slim Shadey. :o :shock:

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:20 pm
by Diver52
Hasn't Bayern already been expatriated? He never had the pedigree to be popular.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:28 pm
by Mylute
Diver52 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:20 pm
Hasn't Bayern already been expatriated? He never had the pedigree to be popular.
Nope. He's still in his old Kentucky home.

Interestingly despite not having many stakes horses and IMHO being overall forgettable, he was within the Top 10 Freshman Sires for 2019 (sixth or seventh I think).

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:38 pm
by ThreeMustangs
stark wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:43 pm
ThreeMustangs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:50 pm
Independence Hall acted up before the race,
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Another angle:

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Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:00 pm
by stark
Independence Hall gets an 83 Beyer Speed Figure for Jerome victory Wednesday at Aqueduct.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:40 pm
by middleground
ThreeMustangs wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:50 pm
Independence Hall acted up before the race, was slow out of the gate, but still won by 4 lengths. Bourbon Bay and Prince of Pharoahs dead-heated for second. All three are from their sire’s first crop (Constitution, AP, and Bayern).
Breeders who have mares booked to Constitution this year at 40K must feel like the luckiest people in the world. (I wish I was one of them.)

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:22 pm
by Happy Endings
stark wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:00 pm
Independence Hall gets an 83 Beyer Speed Figure for Jerome victory Wednesday at Aqueduct.
That's surprising after his 101 in the Nashua.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:59 am
by Squeaky
Happy Endings wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:22 pm
stark wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:00 pm
Independence Hall gets an 83 Beyer Speed Figure for Jerome victory Wednesday at Aqueduct.
That's surprising after his 101 in the Nashua.
His race was not as visually impressive as the Nashua- he acted up alot in paddock, was not focused in the gate, and was not pushed over a deep and tiring track in deep stretch after taking the lead. Shut things down quickly after the wire and may have been a bit tired and likely needed the race after 2 months without a race. Is a beautiful racy horse who I look forward to following as he matures and hopefully continues to improve with more training.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:23 pm
by Izvestia
I like bouncy horses with some fire. Reminded me of Shared Belief.
I like Independence Hall a lot! I love the pedigree, the way he moves, and he’s very athletic.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:44 pm
by Squeaky
Izvestia wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:23 pm
I like bouncy horses with some fire. Reminded me of Shared Belief.
I like Independence Hall a lot! I love the pedigree, the way he moves, and he’s very athletic.
Me too! He has a lot of personality.

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:47 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Bouncy is fine. Aiming powerful rear-leg kicks straight at someone's head crosses the line from 'bouncy' to homicidal. :shock:
That colt should have a big, red bow tied into his tail, along with a skull & crossbones caution sign. :P

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:22 pm
by Squeaky
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:47 pm
Bouncy is fine. Aiming powerful rear-leg kicks straight at someone's head crosses the line from 'bouncy' to homicidal. :shock:
That colt should have a big, red bow tied into his tail, along with a skull & crossbones caution sign. :P
I agree I really thought his trainer was going to really get hurt

Re: 2020 Three-Year-Olds

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:35 am
by Flanders
Mylute wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:57 pm
Hey how long has the Jerome been ungraded?
It was downgraded for the 2018 running, mainly because it was moved to January. It was a G2 race when it was first moved to January for the 2013 running but quickly lost grades. I feel like this was one of the races that the NYRA moved around a lot. In the mid or late 2000s, the NYRA moved a lot of Graded Stakes around, a lot that were G1 or G2. I think most were downgraded.