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Best/favorite Stud Farm in USA

Ashford Coolmore Stud
3
5%
Calumet Farm
5
9%
Claiborne Farm
7
13%
Darley
6
11%
Gainesway
5
9%
Lane's End
11
20%
Spendthrift Farm
0
No votes
Three Chimneys Farm
5
9%
WinStar Farm LLC
7
13%
Other
6
11%
 
Total votes: 55
Rainyday
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:28 pm

The resulting foal would be a full sibling in blood to Valentina--I think. (Same sire, dams full sisters, all the same grandparents.) Is that correct term?

Wishing her luck in her new career. It looks like she simply wasn't competitive at stakes level for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have the potential to be a good broodmare. Between Rachel's foals and Dolphus, that family looks very good right now.
Izvestia
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:46 pm

Nope. You could say they were 3/4 siblings. Not full.
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Treve
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:56 am

Rainyday wrote:The resulting foal would be a full sibling in blood to Valentina--I think. (Same sire, dams full sisters, all the same grandparents.) Is that correct term?

Wishing her luck in her new career. It looks like she simply wasn't competitive at stakes level for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have the potential to be a good broodmare. Between Rachel's foals and Dolphus, that family looks very good right now.
A full sibling would be out of the same dam, by the same sire. I believe in this case it would be more like a 3/4 sibling? Though I am not sure if that works if it isn't the same dam either...

ETA: Ok I see someone confirmed.
ETA2: I just realised you used the term "sibling in blood" I haven't seen that in ages and didn't register it. Did you really mean "sibling in blood" (which I thought was archaic and out of use by now, but if I'm not mistaken was once used to describe get from the same stallion) or did you mean "sibling" "in blood" as in to describe the genetic relationship?
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
Rainyday
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I'm well aware they wouldn't be full siblings. But 3/4 siblings isn't an accurate term in this case, either, since both would come from the same gene pool, without 1/4 different blood there. I'd heard the "sibling in blood" term before, when it came to horses that were incredibly closely related without actually being siblings, and wondered if this was the correct usage. If it's a really archaic term, though, that'd explain why I'm not terribly familiar with its usage.
Izvestia
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:03 pm

Ok, so is 3/4 sibling when it is same dam and the sires are father and son (ie. AP Indy and Bernardini)?
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Treve
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:10 pm

Found this: http://www.pedigree-dynamics.com.au/pdf ... 0Terms.pdf
FULL SISTER / BROTHER IN-BLOOD A horse whose four grandparents are exactly
the same as another horse – even though one or both of the actual parents are not the
same, but are full sister or brother to the parent/s of the other horse.

I mean I don't think the term is obsolete I just haven't heard it being used at all in a modern context for a very long time.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
Rainyday
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:33 pm

Treve wrote:Found this: http://www.pedigree-dynamics.com.au/pdf ... 0Terms.pdf
FULL SISTER / BROTHER IN-BLOOD A horse whose four grandparents are exactly
the same as another horse – even though one or both of the actual parents are not the
same, but are full sister or brother to the parent/s of the other horse.

I mean I don't think the term is obsolete I just haven't heard it being used at all in a modern context for a very long time.
Ah ha! I feel better now I know I wasn't making it up. :D
Rainyday
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:38 pm

Izvestia wrote:Ok, so is 3/4 sibling when it is same dam and the sires are father and son (ie. AP Indy and Bernardini)?
This is something I've wondered, too. I've heard it used this way, but I think the technical defintion of 3/4 sibling is when three of the four grandparents are the same?
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Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:20 am

Treve wrote:Found this: http://www.pedigree-dynamics.com.au/pdf ... 0Terms.pdf
FULL SISTER / BROTHER IN-BLOOD A horse whose four grandparents are exactly
the same as another horse – even though one or both of the actual parents are not the
same, but are full sister or brother to the parent/s of the other horse.

I mean I don't think the term is obsolete I just haven't heard it being used at all in a modern context for a very long time.
I didn't know there was a name for this. Neat!

Also, I guess I just sort of...forgot that Samantha Nicole would one day be a broodmare. It's delightful to know the genes have a chance to press on. Here's hoping she can stand in for her big sister and be a good producer as well.
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:12 pm

I had the opposite problem, I kept forgetting that Samantha Nicole was a racehorse and was expecting to see her bred. She has more value as a broodmare.

I get why they're sending her to Bernardini, with RV and all, but I can think of other stallions I'd like to see her go to first.
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Izvestia
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Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:32 pm

Sheepish wrote:I had the opposite problem, I kept forgetting that Samantha Nicole was a racehorse and was expecting to see her bred. She has more value as a broodmare.

I get why they're sending her to Bernardini, with RV and all, but I can think of other stallions I'd like to see her go to first.
I think it is a perfect match for her first foal. Bernardini is proven with that family...and she can't go to MDO since he's her sire!
Sheepish
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Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:23 pm

Izvestia wrote:and she can't go to MDO since he's her sire!
I do like other stallions, you know ;)
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:08 am

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American Pharoah
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Joyful Victory (Tapit)
Up (IRE) (Galileo)

Mo Chuisle (Free House) - dam of Points Offthebench
Global Finance (End Sweep) - dam of Acapulco (Scat Daddy)

Peppers Pride (Desert God)
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Treve
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:35 am

Twingo wrote:.
American Pharoah
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Joyful Victory (Tapit)
Up (IRE) (Galileo)

Mo Chuisle (Free House) - dam of Points Offthebench
Global Finance (End Sweep) - dam of Acapulco (Scat Daddy)

Peppers Pride (Desert God)
And the first to visit will apparently be Untouched Talent (Storm Cat) - dam of Bodemeister
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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mariasmon
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Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:57 pm

Blue Rhapsody (dam of Western Hymn) --> Free Eagle

Ceisteach --> Oasis Dream

Date With Destiny --> Lope De Vega
Dynaforce --> Gleneagles

Entente Cordiale (dam of Equiano) --> Pivotal

Flawly (dam of Best Name and February Sun) --> Kingman
Funsie (dam of Authorized) --> Dansili

Giants Play (o/o Playful Act) --> Dubawi
Green Swallow (dam of Yellow And Green) --> Golden Horn

Kinnaird --> Oasis Dream

Loveisallyouneed (full to Quarter Moon and Yesterday) --> Sea The Stars

Maureen --> Galileo
My Special J's --> Frankel

Our Queen Of Kings (dam of Spinning Queen) --> Nathaniel

Secret Gesture --> War Front
Shastye (dam of Secret Gesture, 1/2 to Sagamix) --> Galileo

Yummy Mummy (dam of Legatissimo) --> Dubawi

More:

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra ... t7DaysNews
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Sparrow Castle
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Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:34 pm

Robert Yates‏@RobertYates1982
Alabama winner Embellish the Lace was bred today to champion Uncle Mo, per the 4-year-old filly's owner, Alex Lieblong of Conway.

She was a $1.9 million RNA at the FTNOV 2015 sale.
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mariasmon
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Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:46 pm

Rosalind --> War Front
Izvestia
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Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:38 pm

Glen Hill Farms's beautiful SW'ing mare, Theatre Star (War Front 1/2 sister to Taris) has been retired and will be bred to Medaglia D'Oro.
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Sparrow Castle
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:53 pm

Team Valor bought her and brought her back from Thailand.

Team Valor ‏@TeamValor
WIDE RANGE will be bred to Medaglia d'Oro, sire of her half sister, champion Songbird. Photo by Sara Fagan
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Wide Range settling in @denalistud following a long trip from Thailand.
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bare it all
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:31 pm

Bless her heart... Who's she in foal to??
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