2019 Stallion Fees

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How is Lookin at Lucky/Awesome Again unfashionable?
Lookin at Lucky stands for $17,500 and while he can sire a nice horse, he isn't one of the leading stallions. Without Accelerate's earnings, he'd go from #9 to around #40 on the leading sire list. None of the others drop that far if you remove their leading earner. They also probably don't want to price him to much over his sire. The #1 factor in his pricing, in my opinion, is that he hit his peak at age 5. Breeders will pay higher stud fees for horses that were precocious at 2 and 3.
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No Nay Never price quadrupled and five new faces on Coolmore roster for 2019

COOLMORE FEES 2019 (2018 IN BRACKETS)

Australia €35,000 (€35,000)
Camelot €40,000 (€30,000)
Caravaggio €35,000 (€35,000)
Champs Elysees €6,500 (€6,500)
Churchill €35,000 (€35,000)
Excelebration €8,000 (€8,000)
Fastnet Rock €70,000 (€70,000)
Footstepsinthesand €10,000 (€10,000)
Galileo Private (Private)
Gleneagles €30,000 (€40,000)
*Gustav Klimt €7,500
Highland Reel €17,500 (€17,500)
Holy Roman Emperor €15,000 (€15,000)
Ivawood €5,000 (€6,000)
Kingston Hill €5,000 (€5,000)
Mastercraftsman €30,000 (€25,000)
*Merchant Navy €20,000
No Nay Never €100,000 (€25,000)
Pride Of Dubai €12,500 (€15,000)
Requinto €4,000 (€5,000)
Rock Of Gibraltar €7,500 (€7,500)
Ruler Of The World €8,000 (€8,000)
*Saxon Warrior €30,000
*Sioux Nation €12,500
Starspangledbanner €17,500 (€15,000)
The Gurkha €17,500 (€25,000)
*US Navy Flag €25,000
War Command €8,000 (€8,000)
Zoffany €25,000 (€25,000)

*New for 2019
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... 019/352949
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Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:56 pm

Highland Reel €17,500

That feels like a bargain for one of Galileo's best sons ever.
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:shock: :shock: :shock: that's a huge boost for No Nay Never, but he's had a great season, I'm happy to see him so successful, he was fun to follow when he was racing.

I don't understand how Duke of Marmalade and Henrythenavigator didn't get to keep their posts at Coolmore, but Requinto does... unless literally no one is even interested in buying him to stand him in South Africa or Russia.

I was hoping to see US Navy Flag race on as a sprinter, but he's won 3 G1s, and his last few runs haven't been so inspiring.

Hard pass on Gustav Klimt. I guess they want Sioux Nation there as a more affordable Scat Daddy option than No Nay Never and Caravaggio???
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Cheveley Park Stud

Intello - £20,000
Ulysses - £17,500
Twilight Son - £ 8,000
Unfortunately* - £7,500
Mayson - £6,000
Lethal Force - £4,500
Garswood - £3,500
Dutch Art - Private
Pivotal - Private

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Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:47 pm

Northport wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:13 pm
:shock: :shock: :shock: that's a huge boost for No Nay Never, but he's had a great season, I'm happy to see him so successful, he was fun to follow when he was racing.

I don't understand how Duke of Marmalade and Henrythenavigator didn't get to keep their posts at Coolmore, but Requinto does... unless literally no one is even interested in buying him to stand him in South Africa or Russia.

I was hoping to see US Navy Flag race on as a sprinter, but he's won 3 G1s, and his last few runs haven't been so inspiring.

Hard pass on Gustav Klimt. I guess they want Sioux Nation there as a more affordable Scat Daddy option than No Nay Never and Caravaggio???
US Navy Flag runs today in a G1 in Australia. Think he has a nom for HKIR as well
Ask me any questions you have about New Zealand and Australia racing
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Invincible Spirit Fee Unchanged
Invincible Spirit (Ire), whose 19 stakes winners in 2018 include Group 1 winners Eqtidaar (Ire), Magna Grecia (Ire) and Royal Meeting (Ire), will remain at €120,000 at the Irish National Stud in 2019.
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Invincible Spirit stands alongside the likes of three-time Group 1 winner Decorated Knight (GB) (Galileo {Ire}), who heads into his second season at €12,000; his own Group 1-winning son National Defense (Ire) at €8,000 and G1 Prince of Wales’s S. winner Free Eagle (Ire) (High Chaparral {Ire}) at €12,500. The roster is completed by Dragon Pulse (Ire) (€6,000), Elusive Pimpernel (Ire) (€1,000) and Gale Force Ten (GB) (€3,000).
http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/in ... unchanged/
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RugbyGirl wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:47 pm
Northport wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:13 pm
:shock: :shock: :shock: that's a huge boost for No Nay Never, but he's had a great season, I'm happy to see him so successful, he was fun to follow when he was racing.

I don't understand how Duke of Marmalade and Henrythenavigator didn't get to keep their posts at Coolmore, but Requinto does... unless literally no one is even interested in buying him to stand him in South Africa or Russia.

I was hoping to see US Navy Flag race on as a sprinter, but he's won 3 G1s, and his last few runs haven't been so inspiring.

Hard pass on Gustav Klimt. I guess they want Sioux Nation there as a more affordable Scat Daddy option than No Nay Never and Caravaggio???
US Navy Flag runs today in a G1 in Australia. Think he has a nom for HKIR as well
Finished 13/14. He's speedy but can't seem to get close to beating the Australians at their game. He also doesn't seem as durable and competitive as, say, Jungle Cat.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:16 pm

G3 winner Prospect Park to stand at Harris Farms
Prospect Park, winner of the G3 La Jolla Handicap at Del Mar, has been retired to stand at Harris Farms, Coalinga, California.

The horse has been purchased by PVNC Stables LLC in a deal brokered by Chad Schumer of Schumer Bloodstock.

Prospect Park retires having won four of 18 starts and $539,770 in earnings for trainer Cliff Sise.

A hard-knocking and consistent Graded stakes performer in California who was highly regarded from the outset by connections, the son of Tapit enjoyed his finest moment as the wide-margin winner of the La Jolla Handicap.
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“He’ll stand his initial season for $2,500, which we believe offers breeders excellent value.”

Pamela and Martin Wygod’s homebred is out of the Bertrando mare Quiet Romance and therefore a half-brother to G1 Santa Anita Oaks winner Silent Sighs and dual G2 winner Proposed.
More: https://www.schumerbloodstock.com/g3-wi ... ris-farms/
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:45 pm

Get Stormy gets a bump from 5K to 6.5K. He's been getting some nice horses, so it's deserved, IMO.
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:29 am

Shadai SS Fees 2019 (2018 in branckets) -- full list

Deep Impact(JPN) (Sunday Silence) private (40,000,000)
King Kamehameha(JPN) (Kingmambo) private (12,000,000)
Kurofune(USA) (French Deputy) private (2,000,000)
Dream Journey(JPN) (Stay Gold) private (500,000)

Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha) ¥15,000,000 (8,000,000)
Heart's Cry(JPN) (Sunday Silence) ¥8,000,000 (8,000,000)
Duramente(JPN) (King Kamehameha) ¥6,000,000 (4,000,000)
Harbinger(GB) (Dansili) ¥6,000,000 (3,500,000)
Daiwa Major(JPN) (Sunday Silence) ¥5,000,000 (5,000,000)
Just a Way(JPN) (Heart's Cry) ¥4,000,000 (3,000,000)
Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide) ¥4,000,000 (5,000,000)
Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero) ¥4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold) ¥4,000,000 (5,000,000)
Rulership (King Kamehameha) ¥4,000,000 (4,000,000)
Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact) ¥3,500,000 (3,500,000)
Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti) ¥3,000,000 (3,000,000)
Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S) ¥2,500,000 (2,500,000)
Kinshasa no Miseki(AUS) (Fuji Kiseki) ¥2,000,000 (2,500,000)
Mind Your Biscuit(USA) (Posse) ¥2,000,000 (new)
Novellist(IRE) (Monsun) ¥2,000,000 (3,000,000)
Real Steel(JPN) (Deep Impact) ¥2,000,000 (new)
Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki) ¥1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Mikki Isle(JPN) (Deep Impact) ¥1,500,000 (1,500,000)
Satono Aladdin(JPN) (Deep Impact) ¥1,000,000 (1,000,000)
Logotype(JPN) (Lohengrin) ¥800,000 (800,000)
Reach the Crown(JPN) (Special Week) ¥800,000 (1,000,000)
Real Impact(JPN) (Deep Impact) ¥800,000 (800,000)


.. and the following stallions are now expected to leave from Shadai

Deep Brillante(JPN) (Deep Impact) quit (2,000,000)
Eishin Flash(JPN) (King's Best) quit (1,500,000)
Fenomeno(JPN) (Stay Gold) quit (800,000)
Spielberg(JPN) (Deep Impact) quit (1,000,000)
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:13 am

tachyon wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:29 am
.. and the following stallions are now expected to leave from Shadai
Spielberg(JPN) (Deep Impact) quit (1,000,000)
He doesn't even have foals of racing age does he?
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Flanders wrote:
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tachyon wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:29 am
.. and the following stallions are now expected to leave from Shadai
Spielberg(JPN) (Deep Impact) quit (1,000,000)
He doesn't even have foals of racing age does he?
We haven't seen his foals racing yet.
But he has not been so popular since he entered stud at Shadai in 2016.
And he failed to attract many breeders even with his reduced fee this year..

viewtopic.php?p=193168#p193168

And I have just found out that Spielberg and Deep Brillante would be relocated to Breeders SS.
Eishin Flash and Fenomeno to Lex Stud.

Deep Brillante(JPN) (Deep Impact) 86 (148)
Eishin Flash(JPN) (King's Best) 93 (144)
Fenomeno(JPN) (Stay Gold) 55 (87)
Spielberg(JPN) (Deep Impact) 46 (58)
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:28 am

As for Talismanic, I can't wait for all of the white face flashy babies in 2018.

No guarantee he'll pass that on but we can hope.
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:30 am

Mind Your Biscuits for about $17500 USD. He probably would have struggled for $15k in America. I find him a loss for US breeding and hope Shadai supports him well.
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:10 pm

Haven't seen an article for Calumet yet but I saw on BH that English Channel's fee has been raised to $30K.

He got 82 mares this year, not sure how many were Calumet's.

He's had a handful of Grade 1 winners and performers and several other stakes winners, so I think it's warranted and still a bargain, but I have to wonder if his number will rise or drop given the current breeding industry's leanings toward precocious unsound speed.
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Mind Your Biscuits for about $17500 USD. He probably would have struggled for $15k in America. I find him a loss for US breeding and hope Shadai supports him well.
Yes I hope that the NY-bred will do well in Japan, too. :D
Hopefully he will play the role of either End Sweep / Swept Overboard or South Vigorous in Japan.
He has the speed and Japanese breeders should appreciate it.
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Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:28 am

Calumet Releases 2019 Fees, Led by English Channel

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... -at-30000/

English Channel – $30,000
Keen Ice – $20,000
Oxbow – $15,000
Bal A Bali - $15,000
Big Blue Kitten – $10,000
Ransom the Moon – $7,500 *new 2018
Aikenite – $5,000
Mr. Z. – $5,000
Optimizer – $5,000
Raison D'Etat – $5,000
Slumber (GB) – $5,000
War Correspondent – $5,000

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Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:20 am

Where did Americain go?

Is he now home in Australia permanently?
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:25 am

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Where did Americain go?

Is he now home in Australia permanently?
My guess is yeah. He only bred 9 mares this year. It's probably better for him.
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