The Saudi cup

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TapitsGal
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https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... chest-race

How long before sheikh mo raises the Dubai world cup purse and tops this?
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:38 am

The well known jockeys publicly stating that the track and footing is perfect in every way made me lol. Because if anyone will tolerate a dissenting opinion, it's the royal family of Saudi Arabia.
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:34 am

Northport wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:38 am
The well known jockeys publicly stating that the track and footing is perfect in every way made me lol. Because if anyone will tolerate a dissenting opinion, it's the royal family of Saudi Arabia.
Baffert said its to deep a track for a horse to run in the Saudi Cup and then make it to the Dubai WC and have a chance at winning there too. Will be interesting if its well supported and if any horse tries the Pegasus, Saudi Cup and DWC. I wish a female trainer/jockey combo could win it. ;)
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Flanders wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:34 am
Northport wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:38 am
The well known jockeys publicly stating that the track and footing is perfect in every way made me lol. Because if anyone will tolerate a dissenting opinion, it's the royal family of Saudi Arabia.
Baffert said its to deep a track for a horse to run in the Saudi Cup and then make it to the Dubai WC and have a chance at winning there too. Will be interesting if its well supported and if any horse tries the Pegasus, Saudi Cup and DWC. I wish a female trainer/jockey combo could win it. ;)
Apparently Gronkowski will try for the triple whilst connections of Axelrod are pointing to the Saudi Cup.
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-- from bloodhorse

''Saudi Cup Attracts Worldwide Interest''
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... e-interest


-- nominations for the full $29.2 million card
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e034336a62 ... es_PDF.pdf
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:54 am

Deirdre(JPN) has received invitations for both the Saudi Cup (1800m dirt) and the Neom Turf Cup (2100m turf).
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:30 am

Japan's 2019 dirt champion Chrysoberyl(JPN)(Gold Allure) is likely to run in the Saudi Cup.
He has received an invitation today!
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Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:18 pm

As expected, the Saudi Cup invitation has been extended and Baffert said that both Mucho Gusto and McKinzie would depart from Santa Anita on Feb. 18.

“The race is $20 million at a mile and one eighth on Feb. 29,” he said.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:09 pm

Flanders wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:34 am
Northport wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:38 am
The well known jockeys publicly stating that the track and footing is perfect in every way made me lol. Because if anyone will tolerate a dissenting opinion, it's the royal family of Saudi Arabia.
Baffert said its to deep a track for a horse to run in the Saudi Cup and then make it to the Dubai WC and have a chance at winning there too. Will be interesting if its well supported and if any horse tries the Pegasus, Saudi Cup and DWC. I wish a female trainer/jockey combo could win it. ;)
Or a Jewish one! Paging David Jacobson! Paging David Cohen! Your flight to Riyadh leaves in two hours!
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Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:07 pm

Where is the official list of invitees? With the large number of nominations(over 100) , surely all of them can't be invited.

Trying to figure out whether Spun To Run was invited.
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Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:30 pm

Sounds to me like there's "house rules" to play by, not the typical invitation list of eligibles.
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The winner of the Pegasus World Cup will be invited for the Saudi Cup even if not previously entered. Horses trained in Saudi Arabia will have the opportunity to secure a place in the starting line up by winning a race to be run on Friday February 7th, 2020.
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A maximum of 14 starters are allowed in each of the international races on February 29.

The runners will be by invitation only.

The JCSA Racing Consultant and Handicapper (PhilSmith) will assign a rating to each horse that is entered or supplemented for these races. These ratings will form the basis for the selection procedure, although the Selection Panel (which will meet in early January) will consider all relevant factors.

There will be two spaces reserved for local horses. One will be for the locally trained winner of The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques Cup over 2000m on Saturday February 8th, 2020, the second space will be for a locally trained horse to be decided by the JCSA selection panel.

In the handicap races the selection process will be high weights preferred as long as the Selection Panel believes the horses are suitable to be running over those distances. Two slots will be reserved for Saudi trained horses in the 3000-meter handicap even if not high enough on the ratings scale to be guaranteed a run.

The JCSA reserves the right and has the sole authority to decide on the number of runners in the race, after careful consideration of any entry’s overall standing and potential to perform adequately in the race. Consequently, no entry, whether local or international, is guaranteed selection even if fewer than the maximum 14 starters are selected.
The Selection Panel have the sole authority and discretion in determining the line-up of the races and the decision of the Selection Panel shall be final.

JCSA reserve the right to have up to two reserves at the time of declaration. These reserves can draw into the race up to scratch time (8am on race day).
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:58 pm

I guess Math Wizard was not invited and apparently is not even on the bubble in terms of getting in. He will likely reroute to the Razorback at Oaklawn per the trainer, with Dubai not ruled out.
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Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:16 pm

Make no mistake, the invites are likely as much about the big owners in racing as any handicapping on dirt. They aren't giving away that much money just to have the less well known of American dirt racing show up. They want to turn this into a fete to attract the jetsetters like Dubai did.
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Starine wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:58 pm
I guess Math Wizard was not invited and apparently is not even on the bubble in terms of getting in. He will likely reroute to the Razorback at Oaklawn per the trainer, with Dubai not ruled out.
I love math wizard...and I love his trainer saffie Joseph jr..but does he have a realistic chance in Dubai? He's only won one gr1 and was 5th in his last gr1 in the classic..his best finishes seem to have come in gr2 or gr3 races
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:46 am

Gold Dream(JPN)(Gold Allure) has accepted an Invitation for the Saudi Cup as well.

Chrysoberyl goes with Christophe Soumillon and Gold Dream with Christophe Lemaire.
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:00 pm

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... as-runners Full list of all race entries is at the very end of the article at a different webpage plus:
The fields for each race will be completed with the addition of two local runners, which will be selected following Saturday's local Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.
Expected Saudi Cup entries:
Benbatl (GB)
Chyrsoberyl (JPN)
Gift Box (USA)
Gold Dream (JPN)
Gronkowski (USA)
Magic Wand (IRE)
Maximum Security (USA)
McKinzie (USA)
Midnight Bisou (USA)
Mucho Gusto (USA)
Tacitus (USA)
BaroqueAgain1
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:34 pm

That looks like a quality field...which IMHO is unfortunate. Saudi Arabia doesn't deserve it.
Too bad the jocks wouldn't get away with wearing armbands that say 'Remember Jamal Kashoggi.' :evil:
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:20 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:34 pm
That looks like a quality field...which IMHO is unfortunate. Saudi Arabia doesn't deserve it.
Too bad the jocks wouldn't get away with wearing armbands that say 'Remember Jamal Kashoggi.' :evil:
Take it to a non-racing thread.
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:24 pm

Why? Does it make you uncomfortable for someone to point out that MbS is using horse racing to 'sports wash' his country's and his reputation? :roll:
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:24 pm
Why? Does it make you uncomfortable for someone to point out that MbS is using horse racing to 'sports wash' his country's and his reputation? :roll:
Well, I'm on BA's page. Saudi Arabia is one place I'd be queasy about boosting. But then, that kind of money will buy a lot of Tums, I guess.
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